Feds: Banks Should Call Police if Customer Withdraws More Than $5k in Cash

OGEvilgenius

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http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf

If you haven't filed one of those out, you are being paid outside the scope of the IRS, otherwise if you filed out that form and signed it, you made an agreement with your, "purported leaders". End of discussion.
Does it need to be explained that taxes are not optional once again? Your friend started to have his wages garnished. If he didn't have wages to garnish, what do you suppose would happen? They'd say, oh that's too bad so sad? Or do you suppose they would take out leins on "his" or "her" property and force him to start paying while interest was accruing to his existing balance making it even more unlikely to be repaid?

And how do you think leins appear to any potential lender or credit agency?

You know, I had a professor who was a communist in school. We had some great discussions. He was a pie in the sky idealist given his leaning towards authoritarian systems, but he never denied things for what they were. He knew that income tax was coercive, but he argued it was necessary. Not that well mind you, but at least he would acknowledge words and actions for what they are. It's no wonder you me and Rob are so far apart. My professor wouldn't have thought much of your arguments either and he was a die hard communist who actually ran as a communist for Parliament.
 
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see4

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I don't "win" because our logic is mismatched. I win because your arguments rely on rationalization and contradictions, mine do not.
Finally we agree upon something.

Enjoy you time bud. Seriously, I hope all turns out well for you, it seems life has been really rough on you, and for that I am sorry.

Life hasn't been so rough for me. So there's that. Good luck with everything.
 

see4

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Does it need to be explained that taxes are not optional once again? Your friend started to have his wages garnished. If he didn't have wages to garnish, what do you suppose would happen? They'd say, oh that's too bad so sad? Or do you suppose they would take out leins on "his" or "her" property and force him to start paying while interest was accruing to his existing balance making it even more unlikely to be repaid?

And how do you think leins appear to any potential lender or credit agency?

You know, I had a professor who was a communist in school. We had some great discussions. He was a pie in the sky idealist given his leaning towards authoritarian systems, but he never denied things for what they were. He knew that income tax was coercive, but he argued it was necessary. Not that well mind you, but at least he would acknowledge words and actions for what they are. It's no wonder you me and Rob are so far apart. My professor wouldn't have thought much of your arguments either and he was a die hard communist who actually ran as a communist for Parliament.
Yea man. We simply have different mindsets. The major difference is, you guys get through this world being bitter racist militia members, and I get along being an active member of society. Take that as you may.

Good luck with everything that you do bud. Seriously.
 

sheskunk

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Finally we agree upon something.

Enjoy you time bud. Seriously, I hope all turns out well for you, it seems life has been really rough on you, and for that I am sorry.

Life hasn't been so rough for me. So there's that. Good luck with everything.

See, here you are claiming to be better than someone.
 

sheskunk

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Yea man. We simply have different mindsets. The major difference is, you guys get through this world being bitter racist militia members, and I get along being an active member of society. Take that as you may.

Good luck with everything that you do bud. Seriously.

And again.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Yea man. We simply have different mindsets. The major difference is, you guys get through this world being bitter racist militia members, and I get along being an active member of society. Take that as you may.

Good luck with everything that you do bud. Seriously.
Clearly we have different beliefs. But you can't even acknowledge what yours are. Instead you resort to flaming and insults when folks poke holes in your analysis which relies completely on changing the definition of words because they are far too weak to hold up on their own.

Changing definitions is one of the cheapest and easiest ways to argue literally anything no matter how stupid, which is why you usually get dinged horribly when you do it in any kind of analysis or essay for school.
 

OGEvilgenius

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And again.
It's pretty clear to me he's got probably a bad liberal arts degree from a shitty school and has graduated recently given his tremendously inflated self worth (which is a totally common theme amongst the more recent generations... only increasingly).

Therefore he's obviously superior to everyone else. He would have failed my commie profs class though... that guy was harsh with guys like him. Pretty sure he was on the spectrum somewhere given how he would take people to task for it. Part of his argument for communist society involved highlighting the importance of language and maintaining clear and consistent definitions, because political speak often is used to shift and distract away from what things actually are. He believed it was at the basis of an honest transaction.. honest use of language.

I'm pretty sure Orwell wrote an essay that said something similar. He was another pretty extreme socialist.
 

see4

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See, here you are claiming to be better than someone.
And again.
If that makes you sleep better at night.

Clearly we have different beliefs. But you can't even acknowledge what yours are. Instead you resort to flaming and insults when folks poke holes in your analysis which relies completely on changing the definition of words because they are far too weak to hold up on their own.

Changing definitions is one of the cheapest and easiest ways to argue literally anything no matter how stupid, which is why you usually get dinged horribly when you do it in any kind of analysis or essay for school.
Huh? I can't acknowledge my beliefs? You never asked me, remember we are debating someone else's opinion on how they feel the government is coercing them. We aren't talking about me. Nice try.


It's pretty clear to me he's got probably a bad liberal arts degree from a shitty school and has graduated recently given his tremendously inflated self worth (which is a totally common theme amongst the more recent generations... only increasingly).

Therefore he's obviously superior to everyone else. He would have failed my commie profs class though... that guy was harsh with guys like him. Pretty sure he was on the spectrum somewhere given how he would take people to task for it. Part of his argument for communist society involved highlighting the importance of language and maintaining clear and consistent definitions, because political speak often is used to shift and distract away from what things actually are. He believed it was at the basis of an honest transaction.. honest use of language.

I'm pretty sure Orwell wrote an essay that said something similar. He was another pretty extreme socialist.
You are a terrible judge of character, and you are not even remotely close in your assessment, but if it makes you sleep better at night. If you want to honestly know more about me, you only need to ask.

But thank you very much for showing us all what kind of person you are.

I wish you all the best bud. Seriously I do. I am so very happy with how life turned out for me, including being coerced by the government to give up all my moneys. All my base are belong to them. Amaright?


RAPE!!
 

see4

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That's what you told us. I assume you weren't lying. I could be wrong.
Le sigh... ok sheskunk, please post the comment in which I said, exactly, that I am better than you. I don't want your interpretation of something, I want you to post where I said that exactly.

You rely too much on feelings and less on facts. To each their own.
 

sheskunk

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Le sigh... ok sheskunk, please post the comment in which I said, exactly, that I am better than you. I don't want your interpretation of something, I want you to post where I said that exactly.

You rely too much on feelings and less on facts. To each their own.

Too easy.

That's the difference between us, and the difference between someone who can think and some who follows.

If this were something you clowns could come up with to shut us up, you would do it in a heart beat. But you can't find it, so you won't. What you will continue to do is act like a bunch of brats crying over the fact that we are simply better than you. At everything.

Im not directing that solely on you fad....sheskunk.. im directing that at your klansmen too.
You're now my bitch. Prison style. :hump:
 

OGEvilgenius

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If that makes you sleep better at night.



Huh? I can't acknowledge my beliefs? You never asked me, remember we are debating someone else's opinion on how they feel the government is coercing them. We aren't talking about me. Nice try.




You are a terrible judge of character, and you are not even remotely close in your assessment, but if it makes you sleep better at night. If you want to honestly know more about me, you only need to ask.

But thank you very much for showing us all what kind of person you are.

I wish you all the best bud. Seriously I do. I am so very happy with how life turned out for me, including being coerced by the government to give up all my moneys. All my base are belong to them. Amaright?


RAPE!!
And the thing you don't get is that the government coerces everyone. You claim because you think it's great that it's not coercion. That isn't reality. That is political talk though.

I don't wish you anything in particular. I just call em like I see em. I'm tired of debating stupid people with inflated egos though, so I'm out.
 

sheskunk

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I'm am so very sorry you don't know the difference between the words, "I" and "we".

Blow me a sweet glass pipe, would ya?

So you are trying to claim that "we" doesn't include "you"?

Shut up and make me a sandwich, bitch.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Hypocrisy suits you nicely. Have a wonderful rest of your night Klansmen.
Again, I mostly just state facts. When I call you stupid, it is indeed a fact and not an insult. You clearly identify yourself as such when you can't even grasp simple definitions.

The fact you think you're still right anyway indicates your ego clouds out any ability to reason, which just adds to the case of stupidity. Just facts like I see them I'm afraid.
 

Rob Roy

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Finally we asgree upon something.

Enjoy you time bud. Seriously, I hope all turns out well for you, it seems life has been really rough on you, and for that I am sorry.

Life hasn't been so rough for me. So there's that. Good luck with everything.
Is that why you were unable to answer my questions?

Again. your default position is that a coercive system "automatically" owns people and has the authority to dictate the terms.

When I ask you where they got that authority from, you can't answer. Obviously their authority does not arise from any form of actual consent by the individuals they forcibly control.

Your skirting around that, and building arguments which ignore that, means you've granted an exception for government to use force, in instances where if you or I used force we would clearly be in the wrong.

How is it that a thing wrong, becomes "right" just because people with self granted authority proclaim it is right when they do it and wrong when others do it? Is it magic or is it a gun?

Your inability to see your cognitive dissonance facilitates your ignorance.
 
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Rob Roy

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Finally we asgree upon something.

Enjoy you time bud. Seriously, I hope all turns out well for you, it seems life has been really rough on you, and for that I am sorry.

Life hasn't been so rough for me. So there's that. Good luck with everything.
Is that why you were unable to answer my questions?

Again. your default position is that a coercive system "automatically" owns people and has the authority to dictate the terms.

When I ask you where they got that authority from, you can't answer. Obviously their authority does not arise from any form of actual consent by the individuals they forcibly control.

Your skirting around that, and building arguments that ignore that, means you've granted an exception for government to use force, in instances where if you or I used force we would clearly be in the wrong.

How is it that a thing wrong, becomes "right" just because people with self granted authority proclaim it is right when they do it and wrong when others do it? Is it magic or is it a gun?

Your inability to see your cognitive dissonance facilitates your ignorance.
 
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