Short Stuff #1 Auto Grow

[Earlyriser76]

Short Stuff #1 Autoflowering Feminised Seeds
Type : Auto flowering William’s Wonder / Northern Lights No. 2 / Mexican Ruderalis
Height : 10 – 15 inches
Harvest : 8-9 weeks from seed
Yield : 14-36g per plant
Indoors/Outdoors
Effect : surprisingly strong hit
Potency : 7/10
Breeder: STITCH

Short Stuff Seeds Short Stuff #1 Feminized is a new auto-flowering strain developed by our growers in the Netherlands and at around half the price of original lowryder it offers great value. Passing directly from the seedling to the flowering stage, Short Stuff #1 altogether does away with the vegetative growth stage, in a process called autoflowering. In other words, when planted, it sprouts, grows a couple sets of leaves, then immediately and automatically begins flowering (males at about day 17, females at day 20). As a result, it is the quickest, most compact, and most discrete plant available. This is not a huge commercial strain but a great alternative to traditional strains with many new advantages. - See more at: http://www.highlifeseedbank.co.uk/short-stuff-seeds-1-feminized#sthash.0j3haFc0.dpuf

Seeds: Reviews:

1. Short Stuff #1 is one of those wash and wear type of cannabis plants. Just grow them directly into the chosen growing medium and they will flourish on their own. Hell, I actually germinate them in the soil and no more water soaking like that preferred by other meticulous growers.

2. No problems at all with Short Stuff#1..odour levels are very low,something like a fruits to me,non smokers will never ever notice something strange,been growing SS#1 for three grows without carbon srubber and no problems at all.

 

[Earlyriser76]

Hardware and Nutes:

Medium and method: Top Feed DWC (Bubbleponics) http://www.ebay.com/itm/130832732812?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
1 Air Pump: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ecoplus-Air-4-Four-Outlet-Pump-aquarium-hydroponics-eco-plus-variable-control-/400654265010?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d48daeab2
4 Air stones: $10.28 http://www.ebay.com/itm/2X-Air-Stone...item3cd6dba6fd
Tent: Lighthouse Hydro 36x20x60 $91.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lighthouse-H...r=580225281424
Tent Tray: Sterlite 41 Qt Underbed Storage Tote - $12.71 http://www.target.com/p/sterilite-cl...t/-/A-13796221
Filter: Phresh 4x8" $79.85 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Phresh-Carbo...item33984f4e35
Fan: - S&P TD-100 $58.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soler-Palau-...item3aa5237642
Fans: - 2 x 4" Mini fans 2400 RPM $32.00 http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Elect.../dp/B003LNOE28
Light: - 150w HPS $88.00 http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG...ium-Grow-Light
PH meter:- Oakton Eco PH1 $65.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oakton-ECO-T...item3aa42fa70f
General Hydroponics PH down 8 oz. $13.99 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ph-up-down-G...item4ace095054
Thermometer: GrowBright Indoor - Outdoor $27.29 - http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-Gro...ith-Hygrometer
TDS3 Filter Pen Temp PPM - http://www.ebay.com/itm/301181625736
ML Syringe - http://www.ebay.com/itm/271447396395
Zip cable ties ( for attaching fans and hanging filters inside the tent ) - $9.99 http://www.ebay.com/itm/36-White-Nyl...item35e3d487c2
4" ducting - $7.90 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dundas-Jafin...item565a0772ee

Nutes:
Botanicare Hydroplex - 8 oz bloom maximizer. $12.84 http://www.ebay.com/itm/130744908065
Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Bloom 1-4-5-1 1qt. $18.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/121209668133
Botanicare Liquid Karma 8 oz. $14.79 http://www.ebay.com/itm/261429534449
Botanicare Cal Mag Plus 8 oz. $9.95 http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOTANICARE-C...item4ae280ef36
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Feed and PH scheudle:

Water changes weekly - PH - 5.5 to 5.8.

Week 1 - 2ml per gal Karma, 2ml cal mag
Week 2 - 2ml per gal Karma, , 2ml cal mag
Week 3 - 10ml PBPB, 2ml hydroplex, 5ml Karma, 5ml cal mag
week 4 - 10ml PBPB, 3ml hydro, 5ml Karma, 5ml cal mag
week 5 - 15ml PBPB, 4ml hydro, 5ml Karma, 5ml cal mag
week 6 - 15ml PBPB, 4ml hydro, 5ml Karma, 3ml cal mag
week 7 - 15ml PBPB, 2ml hydro, 5ml Karma, 3ml cal mag
week 8 - 15ml PBPB, 3ml hydro, 5ml Karma, 3ml cal mag
week 9 - 0ml PBPB, 0ml hydro, 0ml Karma , 0ml cal mag

Fill 10 gallon rez with 8 gallons water and to that 8 gallons add one capful of 3% Peroxide.

Per 8 gallons, Per week recipes.

week 1 - 16ml Karma, 16ml Calmag plus, 5ml 3% peroxide
week 2 - 16ml Karma, 16ml Calmag plus, 5ml 3% peroxide
week 3 - 80ML PBPB, 16ml Hydroplex, 40ml Karma, capful of 3% H202, 40ml Calmag plus
week 4 - 80ml PBPB, 24ml hydro, 40ml Karma, capful of 3% H202, 40ml Calmag plus
week 5 - 120ml PBPB, 32ml hydro, 40ml Karma, capful of 3% H202, 40ml Calmag plus
week 6 - 120ml PBPB, 32ml hydro, 40ml Karma, capful of 3% H202, 24ml Calmag plus
week 7 - 120ml PBPB, 16ml hydro, 40ml Karma, capful of 3% H202, 24ml Calmag plus
week 8 - 120ml PBPB, 0ml hydro, 32ml Karma, capful of 3% H202, 24ml Calmag plus
week 9 - 0ml PBPB, 0ml, hydro, 0ml Karma, capful of 3% H202, 0ml Calmag plus

 

[Earlyriser76]

(3-25-15) The seeds are soaking today so there is no going back. They are soaking in PH 5.6 water. Once they sink, I'll place them in napkins and put them in a warm/dark place. 80-85*F.

I only have 5 seeds of the short stuff #1 and I have 6 net pots. I'll run one Strawberry Blue Fem if I can get them all to crack. The SB is soaking too. Hopefully they will all germ.

I boiled the hydroton today and rinsed it well. I'm soaking that along with the rockwool in ph 5.6 water to avoid any potential PH problems from the start.

The plan is to keep that 150w hps 7" off the top of the plants and run them 20/4 until finished. Temps in the tent run in the low 80's during the heat of the day.

 

[Earlyriser76]

(3-26-15)

I placed the seeds in paper towels napkin last night after they sank from the soak. I placed the napkins in a pot with a lid. Inside the pot I placed and aquarium heater and my thermometer. I turned on the heater until it showed 85* inside the pot. In 24 hours 50% of the seeds popped.

I made up my first weeks nutes. The water is getting 24 hours of bubbles before I put the seeds in the rockwool and start my grow. PH was 5.5 and the feed was for week 1 - 16ml Karma, 16ml Calmag plus, 5ml 3% peroxide to 8 gallons.

 

[Earlyriser76]

All seeds cracked. All are planted. 5 x short stuff #1 and one strawberry blue. Tent is closed, lights are on, bubbles are bubbling. PH 5.5.

 

[Earlyriser76]

Checked my tent first thing this morning. Air Temp is 85.5F, humidity 76%. That 76% humidity is ok for now, but as soon as I see flowers I'll need to drop it to keep rot at bay.

My tent is 30 cubic feet at 2'x3'x5'. I'll need to drop that humidity down to 50% in the next 3 weeks so it's time to look at a dehumidifier.

How to shop for one I don't know, but I did find this:

"The level of moisture in the air tells you how many times the air in your room should cycle through the dehumidifier every hour. This is known as Air Changes per Hour, or ACH. The higher the relative humidity in your room, the more often the air should cycle through your dehumidifier, or the higher ACH needed. By estimating the amount of humidity in the air, you should be able to find the recommended ACH:

• Damp air (60-70% relative humidity) feels clammy or smells musty. This is the typical humidity level in basements and crawlspaces. Recommended ACH = 3
• Very damp air (70-80%) smells of mildew and may leave visible stains on the wall or floor. Recommended ACH = 4
• Wet air (80-90%) is air in which mold and mildew are present, with visible stains and wet spots on the walls or floor. Recommended ACH = 5
• Very wet air (90-100%) is the air in a space where standing water is present. Recommended ACH = 6

To calculate the CFM you need from your dehumidifier, simply multiply the cubic feet of the room by the recommended ACH, and then divide that number by 60 minutes. The resulting number is the CFM your dehumidifier should have. "

So by this calculation and my 76% humidity I would use an ACH of 4.

30 Cubic Feet x ACH 4=120, divided by 60 minutes means I need a 2 cfm dehumidifier.

Have to be careful of these things though. 2 million have been recalled because of fires. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/09/more-than-2-million-dehumidifiers-recalled-over-smoke-fire-danger/

A couple that I'm researching < $50 are these:

http://www.amazon.com/Ivation-DehumMini-Small-Size-Thermo-Electric-Dehumidifier/dp/B00KWKONAG/ref=sr_1_6?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1427450206&sr=1-6&keywords=dehumidifier electric

http://www.amazon.com/Eva-dry-Electric-Petite-Dehumidifier-Edv-1100/dp/B000H0ZDD2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427447203&sr=8-1&keywords=Eva-dry EDV-1100

Another option is silica gel kitty litter for reducing humidity but I'm looking at all options. This assumes I have some growth to protect in the first place, so I will hold off buying anything for now.

Today is the first day at full 20/4 lights. Grow baby, Grow!

A little more info on this strain. One reviewer said the SS #1 goes into flower right after it's second set of lateral leaves appear. The same reviewer said it grows so fast that I could have something to smoke in 3 weeks from seed. While not as potent then as it will be when finished it's strong enough to smoke at 3 weeks.

I'm going to buy an aquarium thermometer today (about $5.00) to monitor my water temps. I have some water bottles freezing now. I have read that 68-70F is ideal for DWC water temps. I doubt I can maintain that constantly, but maybe adding 1 frozen water bottle a day will help keep the root rot at bay.

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[Earlyriser76]

Non-electrical solutions for lowering RH.

Bicarbonate of soda
Damp RID
Bowls off rice
silica Gel cat litter
Calcium Chloride (salt)

The image below is a humidity chart.

 

[Tone5500]

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[Earlyriser76]

My air temp inside the tent is 82*. My water temp is 82*. I'm going to add Botanicare Hydroguard at 2ml per gallon as a preventive to root problems and going to discontinue the H202.

When I read the reviews, it sounded like something that would work. http://www.amazon.com/Botanicare-Hydroguard-Bacillus-Inoculant-1-Quart/product-reviews/B00IGFH25M/ref=cm_cr_pr_btm_link_2?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=recent&reviewerType=all_reviews&filterByStar=all_stars&pageNumber=2

 

[Earlyriser76]

3 of the six in the tub are breaking through the rock wool this morning. The first SS#1 shown here wasn't visible at all yesterday and in one night it grew about 3/4". Why one seed takes off like a rocket and others lag behind I don't have a clue. All seeds did germinate so hopefully all 6 will be above the surface soon. {{crossed fingers}}

Temp in the tent this morning with lights off was 76* so it looks like it's going to be the high 70's to low 80's as my range. As long as I can keep the root issues at bay, I'm good to go on the environment.

I added more lights yesterday for another grow area inside the tent. I added 4 x 5000k 23w CFL's in reflectors but have the light blocked from the HPS grow area. It didn't seem to have any effect on my temps.


^^ Near identical Afghani #1 regs Sensi Seeds - Pro-mix Hempy style

I received two free seeds from Herbie Seeds with my order of SS#1 and when I asked about them, I received this email.

"The free Afghan regs are produced by Seedsman; they’re not on general release yet, hence they’re not currently listed on the site.
Please refer to the product info for Afghani #1 regs from Sensi Seeds, as the specifications are near identical."

Sensi Afghani #1 Seeds Specs
Flowering: 45 days.
Height: 100-130 cm.
Yield: up to 125 gr.

Our top Afghanis have been used for this variety of Aghani #1. Characteristic are the big, dark Indica leaves, their strong aroma, sturdy stems and high yield.
A must for the Indica connoisseur.

As these were free, I decided to germ them. Both cracked ( one was amazing) so I placed them in Pro-mix HP and used perlite at the bottom of a bottle with a hole drilled in it to make a mini hempy bucket.

Both are under those 4, 23w CFL's 5000k. I'm going to run them 20/4 in the tent along with my DWC grow but I have placed a divider to separate 5000k CFL from my HPS. If anything grows out of this near identical Afghani #1 Mini Hempy, it's a plus but it's not my main focus in the tent. I plan to use the same nutes for the mini hempy as the Bubbleponics setup. I have no clue if these things will grow at all, but I had the space in the tent, so I'll give it a try.

The Afghani's had germinated well, I fed them at PH 5.5 with a solution of 2ml per gal liquid Karma, 2ml cal mag. They were planted 3-25-15 and have not broken through at the time of this post. I'll probably run some bag seed in this same area but this area isn't my main focus.

I also thought this might make a good mothers/clone area or use it for something else down the line, so I got it setup yesterday. I also have plenty of 2700K 23w cfls so this little area with the reflectors could serve some use down the line. I could run more autos too under those 4 cfls.

 

[Earlyriser76]

I have grown fields of fucking potatoes, truck loads of god damn peas, tractor trailer trucks of tomatoes and I can't grow a few little pot plants? This is BULLSHIT.

Granted, all that was outdoors, in soil and sun but how much different can growing indoors be? You plant the shit, feed and water the shit, harvest the shit. So far all I'm doing is eating shit.

This is particularly messed up because I'm so dependent on having weed (an MMJ user) and I have been totally out for a long while and had no way to getting any. After last nights disaster of losing one plant, I tried again to get a local hookup and did find some reg for $90 an oz. I've spent $1000 on my setup to grow and still paying stupid money, driving 4 hours and hanging out in dangerous parts of town for lousy brick weed.

My guess is some plants have died, most or all may be stunted even if they grow at all. My first try at hydro looks to be a massive fail.

The dampening off got me. I don't know anything about Rockwool cubes. My over watering plus my 76% humidity got the better of me. Once this one plant fell over, I pulled all the others out of the tub and put them under a fan. They dried out ( maybe a little too much) before I tried to lightly water them by placing them on a small plate and letting the water soak up from the bottom. It doesn't look hopeful in my tent this morning but not all is bleak.

All 5 of the others that were in the DWC are still alive plus one afghan in Promix.

The strawberry blue looks fine.


A couple of the Short stuff #1's this morning after the death of one of their sisters.


The Afgani in the pro-mix HP


I have two more SS#1's that have not broken the surface for a total of 4 SS#1's. I see these two growing in the rockwool hole.

One of the Afghans hasn't' made it to the surface in Pro-mix. I have 6 of the 8 I planted still showing some type of life.

My situation appears not to be one where hydro is a good option. First off, I don't know how to run it. Overwatering, high humidity and high rez temps are three inherit problems I can't easily overcome given where and how I live and how I can grow with ease and confidence. With what I have to work with maybe Bubbleponics isn't the best style for me.

One thing I do own is an accurate soil moisture meter that I trust. I'm thinking about taking these rockwool cubes and planting them in Pro-mix or coco and or hempy buckets of verm/perlite . I don't think I can do a full DWC top feed bubbleponics grow given my situation, and knowledge base. I could have killed them all.

 

[DirtyMcCurdy]

I wouldn't suggest DWC to anyone. But do not get discouraged. This is your "learning curve", all of us went through it and I suggest you try to keep learning as long as you grow.

Most important is to research and research again. Any method can be difficult if not done properly. Coco is another one that is a little misleading. It dries much faster than soil and messes with nutrient uptake. I am trying coco now, for the first time, in a flood and drain setup and its making me look like a noob. I am having nitrogen deficiency issues do to the excess potassium which is a trait of coco. So coco is not as easy as it looks either. Soil is probably the easiest but can still easily have overwatering issues, fungus knats all over, can be a pain/mess to deal with and the growth rates just aren't there.

If you want the easiest method, my suggestion is flood and drain. You don't need airstones and the pump doesn't run that often so you won't have res temp issues. Not that it really matters much in flood and drain. You already have a pump, hydroton, and netcups. All you need is anything you can use for a table, cheapy timer and flood and drain fittings, also cheap. Then you just set your netcups with seedling in the flood table and flood every few hours depending on temp, humidity and medium. You will have to watch it a little at first to see how fast your netcups dry out then set your timer accordingly. Once they get started and root out they will take off like no other method can offer, except maybe aeroponics.

 

[Earlyriser76]

I'm up for

I wouldn't suggest DWC to anyone. But do not get discouraged. This is your "learning curve", all of us went through it and I suggest you try to keep learning as long as you grow.

Most important is to research and research again. Any method can be difficult if not done properly. Coco is another one that is a little misleading. It dries much faster than soil and messes with nutrient uptake. I am trying coco now, for the first time, in a flood and drain setup and its making me look like a noob. I am having nitrogen deficiency issues do to the excess potassium which is a trait of coco. So coco is not as easy as it looks either. Soil is probably the easiest but can still easily have overwatering issues, fungus knats all over, can be a pain/mess to deal with and the growth rates just aren't there.

If you want the easiest method, my suggestion is flood and drain. You don't need airstones and the pump doesn't run that often so you won't have res temp issues. Not that it really matters much in flood and drain. You already have a pump, hydroton, and netcups. All you need is anything you can use for a table, cheapy timer and flood and drain fittings, also cheap. Then you just set your netcups with seedling in the flood table and flood every few hours depending on temp, humidity and medium. You will have to watch it a little at first to see how fast your netcups dry out then set your timer accordingly. Once they get started and root out they will take off like no other method can offer, except maybe aeroponics.

I'm up for doing something different. I read up on coco all morning but now I'm off to look at flood and drain. Are there any links you think might help me build one?

 

[DirtyMcCurdy]

"Earlyriser76, post: 11454676, member: 785381"]I'm up for


I'm up for doing something different. I read up on coco all morning but now I'm off to look at flood and drain. Are there any links you think might help me build one?[/QUOTE]

Youtube and Google. You will get the general concept right off. Then you can ideas on how to go step by step through the transitional stages. Germination, seedling, veg growth, then flower.

 

[Earlyriser76]

"Earlyriser76, post: 11454676, member: 785381"]I'm up for


I'm up for doing something different. I read up on coco all morning but now I'm off to look at flood and drain. Are there any links you think might help me build one?

Youtube and Google. You will get the general concept right off. Then you can ideas on how to go step by step through the transitional stages. Germination, seedling, veg growth, then flower.[/QUOTE]

I see that. It's pretty easy. It looks like all the seeds are done with. The rockwool has them locked up I think.

Instead of rockwool, what else can I use in an fill and drain?

 

[Earlyriser76]

I think my plants are stunted now. I think I'm just wasting electricity, time and effort.

They did grow a little yesterday. All have broken the surface and 4 out of 5 are showing leaves. By the end of the day, all should be showing some leaves. Only one plant still has a seed husk.

I'm thinking more and more about going to pro-mix HP. Here are my reasons:

#1. I can monitor the moisture. I have a soil moisture meter that works very well.
# 2. I can plant from seedling to HP and bypass rockwool
#3. I own it. I have a large bag and perlite
#4. no res temp issues. I make up my water when I need to water.
#5. I can grow more plants in the same amount of space + more room for lights
#6. Less electricity cost
#7. No timer needed
#8. Less hassle with water tubs and buckets
#9. Less noise in the grow room
#10. Less water around electricity

One little thing I found in all this, was this little wonder. There is a trick to using it though. Polish the metal shaft with steel wool to remove any oxidation if you are concerned about its accuracy. When I did this, it really woke up and was super accurate. http://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Outdoor-Moisture-Hydrometer-gardening/dp/B00CTPXXEE/ref=pd_sim_indust_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=11SD85DVJ88V8FYFSPQV


With this meter and HP, I shouldn't have any moisture /water/temp/ph adjustment issues and it's less fiddly this way. Admittedly it's not as fast as Bubbleponics but I can still incorporate some benefits of hydro in a system that's easier to monitor and administer.

Another advantage is maybe I could use HP and manually bottom feed them like a fill and drain does. I could also use a bottom wicking system like a hempy bucket. I was thinking I could still use the air pump and keep a 5 gallon bucket of water always bubbling for my feed water. Feeding would require that I take water from the bubbling bucket, add nutes, PH each time but watering would be less often than regular HP because I have a rez at the bottom of each bucket.

I could grow 36 plants at 4 plants deep and 9 across at a time in the same tent vs 6 or 8 going with the bubbleponics style of growing.



Here is what I have made up and have been using it for the afghani since day one. I call it an HP Hempy. It's a HP-pro drain to waste self watering system.




It wouldn't work for a fill and drain because the HP would leach out and eventually clog the pump. BUT, I could always fill a large deep res with nutes and submerge these containers in a tub past the drain whole. That would fill these from the bottom like a drain and fill system but it would be only every week, not likely every day. I haven't watered either of these in a week and they both show moist not wet. Perfect medium.

I could also top feed them enough to drain well to replenish the nutes in the rez like a typical hempy. When the roots hit the perlite, the better growth begins, just like all hydro.

What's wrong with this method?

 

[Earlyriser76]

It's over. All the plants that were in the hydro bubbles are done. I killed them all by drowning them.

I'll try again someday but not Hydro. I learned a lot and hopefully I won't make the same mistakes.

 

[DirtyMcCurdy]

You are putting too much thought into it I think. Try using root riot plugs instead of rockwool. But if you're stuck on soil growing then give it a shot. Growing in soil is as easy as it gets but like I've said, the growth rates aren't there. But you gotta start somewhere...

 

[Earlyriser76]

You are putting too much thought into it I think. Try using root riot plugs instead of rockwool. But if you're stuck on soil growing then give it a shot. Growing in soil is as easy as it gets but like I've said, the growth rates aren't there. But you gotta start somewhere...

Thanks. Yes you are right, I over think every damn thing. Wait until you see what I'm planning to try next.

It's auto's in 14" smart hempy type tree pots using a wicking system. My idea is to bottom feed by oxygen rich sponge rock into the pro-mix HP. It's a combo of everything I have learned and what I think I can do.

Here are some links to some of it.

How they will eat: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=258370

My idea is to fill these large bottom tubs with 2" of sponge rock and let the tree pots sit on the sponge rock. Below the sponge rock are my nutes like a hempy bucket. I could have some air stones in that res under the sponge rock pushing air and moisture up.



I might be able to drill holes down the sides of those Tree pots and put fabric over the holes for air pruning. I got that idea from here using a pond liner and milk crates.

^^I made up that graphic just for you. LOL

My #1 problem is over watering. I can't seem to get a handle on how much is too much and if I use Promix I can use my little watering meter. I'm such a lamer.

The good news is, I'm not out of bud thanks to my hookup or apparently ideas to over think.

 

[Earlyriser76]

I don't have any healthy plants to post today other than the one in HP. It's the only weed porn I can pimp.