Do you think a religious person should have the right to not hire atheists based on their religion?

Do you think a religious person should have the right to not hire atheists based on their religion?

  • Yes, they should have the right to hire who they want for whatever reason they want, regardless of..

    Votes: 6 27.3%
  • No, they shouldn't be able to deny equal employment opportunities based on..

    Votes: 16 72.7%

  • Total voters
    22

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
What if the job opening was a movie ,,and it was about John Wayne? should the producer be forced to hire a Asian to play John Wayne?
The Asian might be totally qualified , a great actor and all, but hes not 6 ft tall and white? what then?
What if the Asian looked just like John Wayne but spoke terrible English and his John Wayne voice sounded like Hop Sing on Bonanza?
If a job requires something specific, like looking like John Wayne, it's not discrimination against those that don't look like John Wayne because discriminating against people based on looking like John Wayne isn't against the law. As @ cannabisdreams said, neither is discriminating against LGBT people for being LGBT. I've already acknowledged that, the purpose of the thread if you took note of the title is based on personal opinion. "Do you think religious people should have the right to discriminate against atheists?". Apparently some people do.

So again, to clarify, jobs that require something specific to complete the job that aren't against the law like race, religion, sex, etc. technically aren't discriminatory, but do you think employers should have the right to choose not to hire atheists because they don't agree with their beliefs? If so, what do you think gives them that right? What beliefs are not subject to discrimination regardless of an employers religious beliefs?
 

reddan1981

Well-Known Member
Interesting you seem to be implying some sort of negative connotation to that as genetic diversity actually increases the chance of survival in an organism
if host and merging organism synchronize, yes, the strongest adaptation to the environment will win. What happens to the original organisms lineage?
what happens to diversity?
 

reddan1981

Well-Known Member
It stays exactly the same. My future potential acts of intercourse can't affect my lineage

Diversity becomes even more diverse than the original genetic construct. Diversity decreases if gametes mate with similar gametes, decreasing their chance of survival
before I get roped into an argument, (because I lack the intellectual ability... Insert shame emo) your stand is correct
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
before I get roped into an argument, (because I lack the intellectual ability... Insert shame emo) your stand is correct
+Rep

I'd just like to provide evidence for what I previously claimed, that is - genetic diversity increases the rate of survival for offspring


"The Punnett square is a diagram that is used to predict an outcome of a particular cross or breeding experiment. It is named after Reginald C. Punnett, who devised the approach. The diagram is used by biologists to determine the probability of an offspring having a particular genotype. The Punnett square is a tabular summary of possible combinations of maternal allele's with paternal allele. These tables can be used to examine the genotypic outcome probabilities of the offspring of a single trait (allele), or when crossing multiple traits from the parents. The Punnett Square is a visual representation of Mendelian inheritance. It is important to understand the terms "heterozygous", "homozygous", "double heterozygote" (or homozygote), "dominant allele" and "recessive allele" when using the Punnet square method. For multiple traits, using the "forked-line method" is typically much easier than the Punnett square. Phenotypes may be assessed using a Punnet square, but the phenotype that may "appear" from a given genotype can rely on many things that you will learn about in further detail as you advance through Genetics."



Looking at this, you can see how the alleles from one gamete combined with another gamete with different alleles can create, in the offspring, a genetic variation more likely to survive than an offspring with the same alleles.

An offspring with "tt" is less likely to survive than an offspring with "Tt" if some variable comes along that specifically affects the "t" allele (shorter legs, brighter (less camouflaged) coat of fur, etc.) , right? Those with only "tt" will die off while those with "Tt & TT" will have a better chance at survival.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I voted for no

In a true free market one would be allowed to discriminate in any way he/she/it wishes. But the rules are that we are not supposed to discriminate based on race, ethnicity, religious affiliation. Being an atheist is in my opinion a religious affiliation.

I don't know why there is such a kick in discrimination, loving each other is much more constructive than hating and excluding.

the baker is offended yet someone is insisting who can pay for what they want.

you have to figure out if your 'offended' is greater than your need for 'profit'.

seems to be moot anywhere but deep south/bible belt midwest, which indiana is part of.

do you do business where you don't like the store? the people in it? management?

you don't go back, right?

LGBT: if that 'one' baker must do your cake? c'mon now..there are plenty of choices that welcome everyone. why would you even want to spend your hard earned money on someone you can't have a business relationship with? bring it to those that do! like me:mrgreen:

Baker: everyone's money is green and spends exactly the same.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
I voted for no

In a true free market one would be allowed to discriminate in any way he/she/it wishes. But the rules are that we are not supposed to discriminate based on race, ethnicity, religious affiliation. Being an atheist is in my opinion a religious affiliation.

I don't know why there is such a kick in discrimination, loving each other is much more constructive than hating and excluding.
If we love others, we don't force them to interact with us. That's not loving, its controlling.
 

reddan1981

Well-Known Member
Those with only "tt" will die off while those with "Tt & TT" will have a better chance at survival. [/QUOTE]
what if "tt" represented intellectual abilities and peaceful nature, "TT" represented strength and aggressive nature.
 

reddan1981

Well-Known Member
we could all live in symbiotic harmony.
The myriad of complexity's when given any subject to discuss stalls ACTUAL discussion.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
How does a homosexual have any more right to force a person to interact with them than any other person?
if your dream proceeds in indiana and people are allowed to deny service to gay people like your son, will there then be certain stores where your son is not allowed, thereby giving him a smaller set of goods and services to choose from?
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
if your dream proceeds in indiana and people are allowed to deny service to gay people like your son, will there then be certain stores where your son is not allowed, thereby giving him a smaller set of goods and services to choose from?
I don't dream of any legislative and forcibly imposed "solutions". That's your method.

I'd like people to have the ability to chose their interactions without someone forcing them. That's your method.

My son has no right to make other people who don't want to serve him, serve him. Nobody does.

Do you have any idea how much like a slaveholder you sound like when you push the idea that some people can force others to use their body to serve them? Are you institutionalized?
 

Pinworm

Well-Known Member
I don't dream of any legislative and forcibly imposed "solutions". That's your method.

I'd like people to have the ability to chose their interactions without someone forcing them. That's your method.

My son has no right to make other people who don't want to serve him, serve him. Nobody does.

Do you have any idea how much like a slaveholder you sound like when you push the idea that some people can force others to use their body to serve them? Are you institutionalized?
Your gay son is a slave.
 

Pinworm

Well-Known Member
I have one, I keep him on this forum, when I whistle he comes running.

Here Bucky, Heeeerrre Bucky....he'll be along shortly.
Why do believe your gay son (who wants to buy some batteries at your radio shack) is less deserving than the bigoted radio shack owners who don't want to serve him because he is gay?

Because Rape?
 
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