Should Corporations Fund Schooling?

[Red1966]

You could right I'm enjoying some fine GG#4....

Are you saying the taxes should be progressive?? the more you make the more you pay?

The wealthy do spend, on Lobbyists and offshore.

As far as weather or not Crops should fund schooling ask Monsanto. Fresh minds make money.
How would you stop them from only supporting Schools with Ag classes? Same with Big Oil.
Who would support Hospitals, Pharma?
There's more to life then the Dow Jones.

I'm saying those who support progressive taxes are defeating their own purpose when calling for higher corporate taxes. Lobbyists and offshore.spending isn't taxed. Those are expenses, not profits. No one gets to direct how the taxes they pay are spent.

 

[King Arthur]

I'm saying those who support progressive taxes are defeating their own purpose when calling for higher corporate taxes. Lobbyists and offshore.spending isn't taxed. Those are expenses, not profits. No one gets to direct how the taxes they pay are spent.

Once corporations pay taxes again you might actually be right, until then you are sitting here with an aluminum foil hat preaching to an empty church.

 

[Grandpapy]

I'm saying those who support progressive taxes are defeating their own purpose when calling for higher corporate taxes. Lobbyists and offshore.spending isn't taxed. Those are expenses, not profits. No one gets to direct how the taxes they pay are spent.

Everyone/us/democracy directs where the tax goes, Thats what Lobbyist do, manage the park.

 

[Red1966]

Once corporations pay taxes again you might actually be right, until then you are sitting here with an aluminum foil hat preaching to an empty church.

You are apparently unaware we have the world's highest corporate tax rate now. It's like talking to a child.

 

[Grandpapy]

You are apparently unaware we have the world's highest corporate tax rate now. It's like talking to a child.

The world isn't 30 years behind in maintaing it's infrastructure.

 

[Red1966]

The world isn't 30 years behind in maintaing it's infrastructure.

And how does that pertain to my statement?

 

[Grandpapy]

You are apparently unaware we have the world's highest corporate tax rate now. It's like talking to a child.

What does the "world" tax rate have to do with expenses/theft in our govt.? Other then expose mismanagement?

 

[Grandpapy]

And how does that pertain to my statement?

See above, damn glue.

 

[Red1966]

Once corporations pay taxes again you might actually be right, until then you are sitting here with an aluminum foil hat preaching to an empty church.

This^^^^^^^^ is what I was responding to

What does the "world" tax rate have to do with expenses/theft in our govt.? Other then expose mismanagement?

Nothing. What does your your response have to do with my statement?

See above, damn glue.

Looking at it twice just makes it twice as irrelevent

 

[Grandpapy]

This^^^^^^^^ is what I was responding to

Nothing. What does your your response have to do with my statement?

Looking at it twice just makes it twice as irrelevent

You state, "we have the world's highest tax rate" , So what. We rank 12th in education.

 

[King Arthur]

biggest corporations in murica don't pay their fair share of taxes, they use all the loopholes and dumbass red is blind as a bat to it.

 

[Grandpapy]

biggest corporations in murica don't pay their fair share of taxes, they use all the loopholes and dumbass red is blind as a bat to it.

Or is very much aware and intends to keep it that way.

 

[King Arthur]

Or is very much aware and intends to keep it that way.

great point

 

[Red1966]

You state, "we have the world's highest tax rate" , So what. We rank 12th in education.

Still irrelevant.

 

[Red1966]

biggest corporations in murica don't pay their fair share of taxes, they use all the loopholes and dumbass red is blind as a bat to it.

You keep trying to change what I said into something else. If you want to argue, argue with something I said such as "corporate taxes are paid by the consumer". Instead you spout irrelevant libtard dogma that doesn't address my statement, then try to pretend you said something intelligent.

 

[Red1966]

Or is very much aware and intends to keep it that way.

You can't refute my statement, so you attack my character. Indicates you are both incompetent and dishonest.

 

[ttystikk]

So I just saw a clip of Howard Schultz from Starbucks saying how they are going to give every employee a free ride for education. I believe it is for a specific online institute that offers various bachelors degrees but it got me thinking. With school prices shooting up over %1500 in the last 30 years it would seem very beneficial for companies to sponsor universities that teach what they want you to learn.

I guess it could be considered an amazing thing for anyone taking hold of this opportunity but I think that it is scary that we get paid so little that now our companies have to support our education. Furthering the monopoly on what enters our brain.

I agree with your concerns and in point of fact we used to do things a bit differently in this country; we used to expect corporations to PAY TAXES and thereby do their part to help fund public education from kindergarten on through a public university education. Shifting the burden of tuition costs from public funding onto students has accounted for a large percentage of that shocking increase in tuition you referred to.

Much of the rest of it can be accounted for by 'bloat', where university officials- almost never actually teaching faculty, mind you- excuse and explain increases that end up paying for fancy buildings (like football stadiums on campus, a controversial issue in my hometown right now) and ridiculous salaries for administrators and others who DON'T TEACH STUDENTS.

Only a small if still significant portion of that tuition increase can be put down to inflation.

For those who may blather on about how the average taxpayer shouldn't have to foot the bill for students attending public universities, I have lots and lots of very good reasons why this system helped make America great- and why trashing it is now contributing to our decline.

Worse, what we've gained in return for this terrible trade-off is tax cuts for the wealthy- a group that can certainly afford to pay their fair share AND would benefit greatly from a better educated populace.

 

[Red1966]

I agree with your concerns and in point of fact we used to do things a bit differently in this country; we used to expect corporations to PAY TAXES and thereby do their part to help fund public education from kindergarten on through a public university education. Shifting the burden of tuition costs from public funding onto students has accounted for a large percentage of that shocking increase in tuition you referred to.

Much of the rest of it can be accounted for by 'bloat', where university officials- almost never actually teaching faculty, mind you- excuse and explain increases that end up paying for fancy buildings (like football stadiums on campus, a controversial issue in my hometown right now) and ridiculous salaries for administrators and others who DON'T TEACH STUDENTS.

Only a small if still significant portion of that tuition increase can be put down to inflation.

For those who may blather on about how the average taxpayer shouldn't have to foot the bill for students attending public universities, I have lots and lots of very good reasons why this system helped make America great- and why trashing it is now contributing to our decline.

Worse, what we've gained in return for this terrible trade-off is tax cuts for the wealthy- a group that can certainly afford to pay their fair share AND would benefit greatly from a better educated populace.

Corporate taxes are paid by the consumer. Tuition increases are caused by public financing of tuition. The public financing of tuition is relatively new, claiming an earlier method is what is causing a new para-dyne is illogical.

 

[Grandpapy]

You keep trying to change what I said into something else. If you want to argue, argue with something I said such as "corporate taxes are paid by the consumer". Instead you spout irrelevant libtard dogma that doesn't address my statement, then try to pretend you said something intelligent.

They are paid for by the consumer, we are also paying for the Loopholes, which would close faster
The loopholes or the industry/corp.?

 

[Red1966]

You state, "we have the world's highest tax rate" , So what. We rank 12th in education.

Again, irrelevant.