Do you believe Americans who work full time should earn a living wage?

[Padawanbater2]

Btw, fresh college degreed individuals with the appropriate technical field of study are doing quit well. They hire in at six figures. There's more technical jobs out there than there are qualified people to fill them.

Lets see the numbers

Stop "dis'ing" on Walmart; your buddy needs them ... maybe you as well.

Stop you're belly aching and figure out how to make your life work. It's only impossible if you don't try. Nobody else is responsible for your lack of enthusiasm for your own life.

Get out, go do something useful.

Yeah yeah, we've heard it before, this seems to be the most common theme among opponents of quelling income inequality, we're all just lazy people with no skills who want a government handout.. Even the billionaires and business moguls saying the exact same thing...

Simply not worth addressing anymore, go back in the thread and read it the dozen or so times I've tried to explain it to a different person each time

 

[Padawanbater2]

But your Ideas place money more important than life (of your countrymen).

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-gm-ignition-bankruptcy-20150415-story.html

Excellent comment from that article

"Corporations are people until it comes to taking responsibility"

Couldn't have said it better myself

 

[Iloveskywalkerog]

I heard that Rep lowley got mad and stapled a piece of paper to his ass.

 

[NoDrama]

Buffet talks about income inequality, yet still invests his money for his own gains, still takes advantage of all the tax loopholes, still uses his influence in politics. Still pollutes the earth and gets away with it, still pays less tax than his secretary,...

 

[Padawanbater2]

Buffet talks about income inequality, yet still invests his money for his own gains, still takes advantage of all the tax loopholes, still uses his influence in politics. Still pollutes the earth and gets away with it, still pays less tax than his secretary,...

There's nothing wrong with investing your own money

He's not responsible, nor is he in control of, the tax loopholes his economic class enjoys

Uses his influence in politics to endorse things like the Outlook on Global Agenda, which attempts to solve problems like income inequality, persistent jobless growth, lack of leadership, rising geostrategic competition, the weakening of representative democracy, rising pollution in the developing world, increasing occurrence of severe weather events, intensifying nationalism, increasing water stress, growing importance of health in the economy, immigration..

Still pollutes to the extent the EPA permits, which is a problem with the EPA, not Buffett

And still pays less taxes than his secretary by percentage, which he won't shut up about

But nice attempt at painting him as a bad guy

 

[god1]

Lets see the numbers

Yeah yeah, we've heard it before, this seems to be the most common theme among opponents of quelling income inequality, we're all just lazy people with no skills who want a government handout.. Even the billionaires and business moguls saying the exact same thing...

You're just so confused and misguided: It's not about work ethic, but rather skill set. You gotta have the skills somebody is willing to pay for. It's that simple.

Three guys that I'm specifically talking about were hired by two of my clients. One mec-d and two sparkies. The ee's are working with me doing system design.

Dude, get out more and look around ... it ain't all shit.

 

[Padawanbater2]

You're just so confused and misguided: It's not about work ethic, but rather skill set. You gotta have the skills somebody is willing to pay for. It's that simple.

Three guys that I'm specifically talking about were hired by two of my clients. One mec-d and two sparkies. The ee's are working with me doing system design.

Dude, get out more and look around ... it ain't all shit.

"fresh college degreed individuals with the appropriate technical field of study are doing quit well. They hire in at six figures."

Where are the numbers that support this claim?

This thread isn't about work ethic or skill, it's about the productivity growth that has been stolen from the middle class through legislation that's been implemented since the late 1970s. Where did the money come from to increase a CEO's average income from ~25 x's the amount of the average worker in 1965 to more than 325 x's in 2015? It came from the surplus labor off the backs of employees. That's unacceptable

 

[schuylaar]

Buffet talks about income inequality, yet still invests his money for his own gains, still takes advantage of all the tax loopholes, still uses his influence in politics. Still pollutes the earth and gets away with it, still pays less tax than his secretary,...

epic fail as usual..buffet doesn't take a paycheck = $0 taxes paid.

 

[Red1966]

Wtf does Putin have anything to do with anything in this conversation? You do exactly what the other critics do, bring up Hillary, bring up Al Gore, bring up Al Sharpton.. Why can't you ever stay on the actual topic that's being discussed? Why do you insist on creating straw men and attempt to argue with that?

Do you believe it's perfectly OK that .7% of the population of the world controls 41% of the wealth?

Putin is the ruler of the socialist system you want this country to emulate. Socialism is the topic.So not a straw man, but the end result of your progrom. Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other system. Why should I care if some have more thah me? I'm not the jealous little bitch here. Do you believe it's perfectly OK to take by force the wealth of others?

 

[NoDrama]

There's nothing wrong with investing your own money

He's not responsible, nor is he in control of, the tax loopholes his economic class enjoys

Uses his influence in politics to endorse things like the Outlook on Global Agenda, which attempts to solve problems like income inequality, persistent jobless growth, lack of leadership, rising geostrategic competition, the weakening of representative democracy, rising pollution in the developing world, increasing occurrence of severe weather events, intensifying nationalism, increasing water stress, growing importance of health in the economy, immigration..

Still pollutes to the extent the EPA permits, which is a problem with the EPA, not Buffett

And still pays less taxes than his secretary by percentage, which he won't shut up about

But nice attempt at painting him as a bad guy

Gift Contributions to Reduce Debt Held by the Public
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Gifts to reduce debt held by the public may be inter vivos gifts or testamentary bequests.



I wonder how much Buffet has been giving?

 

[NoDrama]

epic fail as usual..buffet doesn't take a paycheck = $0 taxes paid.

http://www1.salary.com/Warren-E-Buffett-Salary-Bonus-Stock-Options-for-Berkshire-Hathaway.html
His salary is $100,000 a year hun. With stock options he makes over $400,000 a year in compensation.

Need a cloth to wipe the egg off your face? Hell you just barely got all the egg off from the last time you made some claim while not actually checking the facts. You do this quite often.

 

[Red1966]

But your Ideas place money more important than life (of your countrymen).

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-gm-ignition-bankruptcy-20150415-story.html

No, they don't. Your Ideas place the property of others in your hands.

 

[schuylaar]

"fresh college degreed individuals with the appropriate technical field of study are doing quit well. They hire in at six figures."

Where are the numbers that support this claim?

This thread isn't about work ethic or skill, it's about the productivity growth that has been stolen from the middle class through legislation that's been implemented since the late 1970s. Where did the money come from to increase a CEO's average income from ~25 x's the amount of the average worker in 1965 to more than 325 x's in 2015? It came from the surplus labor off the backs of employees. That's unacceptable

to make matters worse, those of us who paid in to SS for everyone's granny at 62 will eventually lose (to age 72)..bargaining power ya know..the peasants are sold a line 'for the greater good', yet i was listening sunday to morning talk (FM) about the 'most overated items of wealth in your home' i think the kid who called in about the elevator getting stuck between floors in his house won

 

[Red1966]

Gift Contributions to Reduce Debt Held by the Public
The Bureau of the Public Debt may accept gifts donated to the United States Government to reduce debt held by the public. Acting for the Secretary of the Treasury, Public Debt may accept a gift of:

• Money, made only on the condition that it be used to reduce debt held by the public.
• An outstanding government obligation, made only on the condition that the obligation be retired and the redemption proceeds used to reduce debt held by the public.
• Other intangible personal property made only on the condition that the property is sold and the proceeds from the sale used to reduce the public debt.

Gifts to reduce debt held by the public may be inter vivos gifts or testamentary bequests.



I wonder how much Buffet has been giving?

Nothing until after he dies.

 

[schuylaar]

Doesn't take a paycheck? Does he eschew all capital gains also?

what does the code say about capital gains?..i'm sure his accountants follow the same rules yours does.

 

[Red1966]

"fresh college degreed individuals with the appropriate technical field of study are doing quit well. They hire in at six figures."

Where are the numbers that support this claim?

This thread isn't about work ethic or skill, it's about the productivity growth that has been stolen from the middle class through legislation that's been implemented since the late 1970s. Where did the money come from to increase a CEO's average income from ~25 x's the amount of the average worker in 1965 to more than 325 x's in 2015? It came from the surplus labor off the backs of employees. That's unacceptable

The worker's productivity growth? Really? How is the better machinery's increased production the property of the worker? Did he buy the machine? No? Did he supply the raw material? No? He didn't even supply the labor. He sold his labor. The employer who bought the labor owns it. So it was his labor, his machinery, his material. If you want the results of production, start your own shop or buy stock in the company. Then you would be complaining about the government taxing you.

 

[Red1966]

what does the code say about capital gains?..i'm sure his accountants follow the same rules yours does.

So not zero taxes?

 

[schuylaar]

So not zero taxes?

if this is red, i have you on ignore..

 

[NoDrama]

what does the code say about capital gains?..i'm sure his accountants follow the same rules yours does.

Woops, I had to edit my post after doing some fact checking. Try not to cry when you read it.

 

[Red1966]

if this is red, i have you on ignore..

This is not Red. It's er.... someone else.