Help choosing an LED replacement for 1000HPS?

[djweed420]

@djweed420 it's not really that hard to make a panel I've made 12 already

Hey REALSTYLES thanks for your message. Maybe for some it's pretty easy but to be honest I'm not the most clued up or technical guy around when it comes to electrical or engineering stuff lol. I wouldn't even know what lights to buy to get maximum exposure, spectrum etc. Like how many LED of each light? There's so many things to decide on and then to still have to put it together!

Maybe for my first time I'll buy one and when my knowledge and experience in LED improves I can look at building my own, but thanks for your recommendation.

 

[djweed420]

Area 51 RW's can be used for veg and flower. For veg you run just the whites and flower you add the reds,separate switches.

What Country are you in?

They do ship to Europe,New Zealand and Australia but you have to call for a shipping quote.

I'm from South Africa and Area 51 makes it very clear that they don't ship to Africa

 

[REALSTYLES]

Hey REALSTYLES thanks for your message. Maybe for some it's pretty easy but to be honest I'm not the most clued up or technical guy around when it comes to electrical or engineering stuff lol. I wouldn't even know what lights to buy to get maximum exposure, spectrum etc. Like how many LED of each light? There's so many things to decide on and then to still have to put it together!

Maybe for my first time I'll buy one and when my knowledge and experience in LED improves I can look at building my own, but thanks for your recommendation.

No problem I like to see more people make their lights. I have a tutorial on here on how I made mine and well as there are other threads by SUPRA that explain what you need to know about LEDs

 

[djweed420]

So thank you to all who have popped in to give your help and suggestions, although a few did go off topic haha..

I would still like to ask considering the original post out of those 4 options listed which would be the better LED?

 

[captainmorgan]

I'm from South Africa and Area 51 makes it very clear that they don't ship to Africa

Maybe look into some European made lights,they might ship to SA. Should be some people here that can recommend a couple. DIY may be your best option if you can get parts shipped to SA unless you can find the parts there.

 

[JimmyIndica]

but does it give you 2.5 to 3 pounds dry harvest that is what people should be lookin at when comparing it to a 1000 is yield never mind effciency

This last run I got roughly 30oz with 940watts LED! Give or take oz! As soon as I can move the Kind to veg? I will be down under 900watts in a 4ft7 x 4ft 7 making 850grams. Pretty good #s I think! Temperature and keeping it under control is the key to LED success vs HID. more smaller wattage LED panels is the way too go.

 

[Darth Vapour]

well it really depends on a lot of factors now does here 432 watt T5 grow 32 oz another one 432 watts T5 Ho and a 3 pound plant 1 k

 

[captainmorgan]

but does it give you 2.5 to 3 pounds dry harvest that is what people should be lookin at when comparing it to a 1000 is yield never mind effciency

I just got 19 ozs off one plant under 315 watts of CXA3070's.

 

[JimmyIndica]

I just got 19 ozs off one plant under 315 watts of CXA3070's.

I thinking of getting 400watts cxb! u gotta pic that?

 

[Darth Vapour]

yea i got just under 9 pounds from 1 k sealed room few years back 72 plants vegged 5 weeks c02 and 6 foot umbrella hood right in the middle afganistan kush next round was 7 3/4 pound 3 k pluss 3/4 pound of hash 12 plant scrog so 8 1/4 pound of goods 3 k

 

[captainmorgan]

u gotta pic that?

Weekly updates of the grow in my DIY CXA thread.

 

[werm11]

So thank you to all who have popped in to give your help and suggestions, although a few did go off topic haha..

I would still like to ask considering the original post out of those 4 options listed which would be the better LED?

Hey brother the reason no one answered with an option from your list is because no one here wants to recommend one of those lights. I bought a light similar to one of those when I was first learning about LED...it has only been used as a veg light ever since. Those lights just simply won't give you what you want if you're trying to replace a 1kw hps. The blue/blurple colored led is outdated technology. You want white or the white/red combo area 51 offers. You have a few options...

www.a51led.net - you could get a great deal on 4 panels that would replace a 1k hps for either $1400 or $1600. That deal will be over any day as Area 51 plans to release their new model lights any day now. The new models will be even better lights but could possibly go over your budget. We don't know prices yet

http://opticgrowlights.com/led-grow-lights.html - that is the link to optic grow lights which would be highly recommended as well. For $2k you could easily fill your 4x4

There is also Apache Tech. I think with a discount code you can get the AT600 for $2k but I don't know the code

You can also wait for other competition coming soon if waiting isnt an isue

 

[Rahz]

but does it give you 2.5 to 3 pounds dry harvest that is what people should be lookin at when comparing it to a 1000 is yield never mind effciency

Yes. Why is that so difficult to believe? If a lamp is more efficient than HPS it will put out more light at the same wattage, same as with DE vs single ended. Many old school LED lamps were running at CFL efficiency level and many today are barely pushing 100 LPW. A COB LED running at 130-140 LPW is nothing to shake a stick at. 1000w COB at 150-160 LPW would likely out yield a Gavita. 1000w in a 5x5 is 40 w/ft. I'm running around 40 w/ft with no cooling fans and getting the numbers you mention. No surprise since the efficiencies are similar.

has anyone looked at Lush lighting ?? i keep seeing some grow bud shots looks well pretty dam impressive

I don't think the diodes they're using are going to be as efficient as sodium bulbs. They don't list the diodes part number so someone can check, but according to their own chart the 1000w replacement barely covers a 3x3. It's almost certainly less efficient HPS and you'd only be getting 650 watts of it. A commercial grower can grab some sodium bulbs and know they're getting their moneys worth, but if they don't educate themselves on the technical particulars of an LED lamp they won't know what they're getting. The truth is most LED brands aren't as efficient as bulbs.

Efficiency and yield potential are direct correlations. The lamps I've built do just fine vs HPS.

 

[Darth Vapour]

I just got 19 ozs off one plant under 315 watts of CXA3070's.

Now i am not trying to start anything with you ,, and i saw your so called 19 oz and sorry if i call BS on that dude if your trying to tell me or us that you pulled that out your ass then may be haha but to say at anytime you had 76 0z wet in them pictures you posted ???
Now you can fool some new growers but the ones that have been pulling weight for some time will agree you never got them numbers sorry to rain on your parade
And that is the problem today in reality for anyone trying to figure out i they should go LED cause its like anything else its a fucking religion ego's and arrogance rule over the truth
here is what a 19 oz plant looks like could you please post yours again i do not want to look for picture
Again sorry not tryin to start shit just stating facts

 

[mc130p]

Now i am not trying to start anything with you ,, and i saw your so called 19 oz and sorry if i call BS on that dude if your trying to tell me or us that you pulled that out your ass then may be haha but to say at anytime you had 76 0z wet in them pictures you posted ???
Now you can fool some new growers but the ones that have been pulling weight for some time will agree you never got them numbers sorry to rain on your parade
And that is the problem today in reality for anyone trying to figure out i they should go LED cause its like anything else its a fucking religion ego's and arrogance rule over the truth
here is what a 19 oz plant looks like could you please post yours again i do not want to look for picture
Again sorry not tryin to start shit just stating facts View attachment 3435326

dude, please quit trolling this section. seems like some people here hurt your feelings and you just can't get over it. please try.

 

[captainmorgan]

Now i am not trying to start anything with you ,, and i saw your so called 19 oz and sorry if i call BS on that dude if your trying to tell me or us that you pulled that out your ass then may be haha but to say at anytime you had 76 0z wet in them pictures you posted ???
Now you can fool some new growers but the ones that have been pulling weight for some time will agree you never got them numbers sorry to rain on your parade
And that is the problem today in reality for anyone trying to figure out i they should go LED cause its like anything else its a fucking religion ego's and arrogance rule over the truth
here is what a 19 oz plant looks like could you please post yours again i do not want to look for picture
Again sorry not tryin to start shit just stating facts View attachment 3435326

It's fine that you don't believe it and I won't lose any sleep on it either. The people in this LED section using high end COBs know the number is real and I've been getting around 1.4 consistently with them on different strains and set ups. I've got a years worth of grows documented with my CXA's,including the 1.7 run.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/another-cree-cxa3070-diy-thread.824364/

 

[Darth Vapour]

i am not trolling one bit not at all seriously i am stating there are to many claims biased claims from members and LED compaines stating this or that its all about the fucking numbers if your going to compare or say this LED is better then a 1000 watt i
Again i am sorry i i am hurting your feelings or anyone elses trust me dude until LED or any other lighting comes into the picture that will no doubt blow a 1000 watt DE out of the water i will be the first to pull out 50,000 dollars and do a upgrade to it

 

[Darth Vapour]

PS : or me its all about the numbers pulling 2.5 to 3 per 1 k is normal

 

[churchhaze]

You calling BS on an 19 oz plant, then you claim 9 pounds from a 1k light.

 

[Darth Vapour]

Well church there is a difference when a person grows in a completely dialed in room that if you farted alarms would go off big difference as for ppp its a good comerical strain