Hows my seedling? (First plant)

[bbyb420]

How would i measure the ph in the water? And also how to get a consistent ph level? I've just been using bottled water. Im planning on buying some distilled water and using that. Would that be fine? What kind of water do would you guys use?

I always use distilled water. But with distilled water you must add cal-mag every time you water. I recommend general organics cal mag.

 

[SnotNazi]

Buy yourself a pH pen or meter...

Buy yourself pH up and pH down...

These are essential things that you will need...

Keep in mind that the quantity and quality of what you grow will be determined by the effort, money and time that you put into it

Unless you fuck up and everything goes to shit.....just saying lol.

 

[sno capz]

My setups are simple...

For seedlings/clones = T5 High Output 2' x 6 bulb
$150.00 - fixture
$12.00 per bulb

For veg = 250/400 watt Metal Halide Fixture with an UltraSun 400 Blue MH bulb
$230.00 - ballast and reflective hood
$40.00 - bulb

For flowering = 400 watt High Pressure Sodium Fixture with an Eye Hortilux 400 Super HPS bulb
$230.00 - ballasted and reflective hood
$95.00 - bulb

 

[SnotNazi]

My setups are simple...

For seedlings/clones = T5 High Output 2' x 6 bulb
$150.00 - fixture
$12.00 per bulb

For veg = 250/400 watt Metal Halide Fixture with an UltraSun 400 Blue MH bulb
$230.00 - ballast and reflective hood
$40.00 - bulb

For flowering = 400 watt High Pressure Sodium Fixture with an Eye Hortilux 400 Super HPS bulb
$230.00 - ballasted and reflective hood
$95.00 - bulb

Are the extra pricey bulbs really worth it? I don't see too much difference in CRI between these and the cheap ones.

 

[Blazer foo]

Buy yourself a pH pen or meter...

Buy yourself pH up and pH down...

These are essential things that you will need...

Keep in mind that the quantity and quality of what you grow will be determined by the effort, money and time that you put into it

Ok, how much does the whole ph thing cost?

 

[sno capz]

I always use distilled water. But with distilled water you must add cal-mag every time you water. I recommend general organics cal mag.

This is non sufficient as well.... Distilled water is good for germination and seedlings due to the fact that distilled water has very little to no total dissolved solids or TDS. In fact, the best thing to use is either well water with a reverse osmosis filtration system or regular water ran through the reverse osmosis process. The problem with using distilled water during a plants more mature stages of growth, is that non distilled water holds certain solids that are beneficial to the plant. Like iron, magnesium, calcium, so on and so forth... Please do not misinform people that are trying to get real help.

 

[sno capz]

Ok, how much does the whole ph thing cost?

You can get a cheap pH pen off eBay for about $30.00... But once again cheap usually means having to be replaced.

If you just need to get by for now... Grab a cheap one but in the meantime save and get a good one.

 

[SnotNazi]

Ok, how much does the whole ph thing cost?

You can go the cheap root with a drops for $10-$20. Don't use strip they're too hard to read. You can buy a cheap pen for $20 off eBay although a "branded" cheap one runs $80. PH up and down will run you about $10 per bottle.

 

[bbyb420]

This is non sufficient as well.... Distilled water is good for germination and seedlings due to the fact that distilled water has very little to no total dissolved solids or TDS. In fact, the best thing to use is either well water with a reverse osmosis filtration system or regular water ran through the reverse osmosis process. The problem with using distilled water during a plants more mature stages of growth, is that non distilled water holds certain solids that are beneficial to the plant. Like iron, magnesium, calcium, so on and so forth... Please do not misinform people that are trying to get real help.

Did you not read that I add supplement for those..?

 

[sno capz]

Did you not read that I add supplement for those..?

Did you read what you wrote? Smh... All you said you add is calcium magnesium supplement... Thats singular not plural. There are many other solids in non distilled water that CalMag does not cover... I think before giving your advice you go do a bit more reading yourself.

 

[Blazer foo]

You can go the cheap root with a drops for $10-$20. Don't use strip they're too hard to read. You can buy a cheap pen for $20 off eBay although a "branded" cheap one runs $80. PH up and down will run you about $10 per bottle.

You can get a cheap pH pen off eBay for about $30.00... But once again cheap usually means having to be replaced.

If you just need to get by for now... Grab a cheap one but in the meantime save and get a good one.

So with the ph kit, use reverse osmosis water? Would I be fine just using some distilled water or some osmosis water without adjusting the ph for now until I can get the ph kit?

 

[SnotNazi]

Depends on the plant, the medium, and the water. Get a PH "kit" either way, you'll need it. As for whether or not you'll need to PH your feed will depend on the medium you're using and that strain you're growing. My setup I'm learning that not PH'ing means perfect results with feed. This is because my water just happens to match my mediums characteristics. I'm using a soilless mixture that tends to dip into the low regions of 5 PH. As I need to keep the medium around 5.8-6.5 range I can water safely with my tap water, left out for minimum 24hrs to acclimate/evaporate, with a PH of 7.5. Before anybody bites my head off, feeding at less has caused irreversible damage to my current grow. This is comparing to the same setup, same strain grown last time.
To your point - use RO water if anything, don't use distilled. Adjusting PH will have to be tested, start at your safe point though

 

[bbyb420]

Did you read what you wrote? Smh... All you said you add is calcium magnesium supplement... Thats singular not plural. There are many other solids in non distilled water that CalMag does not cover... I think before giving your advice you go do a bit more reading yourself.

I give advice that I know works. Perhaps I should've been more specific on the watering. I use distilled water with calmag+ for watering in between feeding. Calmag covers the calcium magnesium but like you said there are some such as iron that it doesnt. However, /most/ commonly used fertilizers that cannabis growers use contains iron. Such as the one I use, biothrive. All my plants are healthy with my feeding schedule so ofcourse ill give it as advice to a new grower. Everyone has their own way of growing and I'm not saying RO water isn't good or not better in some cases but distilled water works fine if you take the necessary steps to make sure there aren't any deficiencies.

 

[sno capz]

Use distilled water for now but be sure to figure out a way to adjust your tap water...

I suggest you also get yourself a TDS meter to figure out the total dissolved solids in your tap water... This way you can adjust it as needed

 

[sno capz]

I give advice that I know works. Perhaps I should've been more specific on the watering. I use distilled water with calmag+ for watering in between feeding. Calmag covers the calcium magnesium but like you said there are some such as iron that it doesnt. However, /most/ commonly used fertilizers that cannabis growers use contains iron. Such as the one I use, biothrive. All my plants are healthy with my feeding schedule so ofcourse ill give it as advice to a new grower. Everyone has their own way of growing and I'm not saying RO water isn't good or not better in some cases but distilled water works fine if you take the necessary steps to make sure there aren't any deficiencies.

In your case, using General Organics line it is completely organic and contains many of the essential solids beneficial to the plant... Are you using just Biothrive? Or any of the other supplements in the GO lineup?

 

[bbyb420]

In your case, using General Organics line it is completely organic and contains many of the essential solids beneficial to the plant... Are you using just Biothrive? Or any of the other supplements in the GO lineup?

I use just about everything in the GO lineup besides the BioMarine/BioWeed

 

[sno capz]

Here is a list of solids that distilled water lacks even when adding nutrients that are water soluble...

Calcium
Bicarbonate
Sulfate
Nitrate
Sodium
Iron
Silica
Magnese

And depending on your water source there are many more...

 

[sno capz]

So with the ph kit, use reverse osmosis water? Would I be fine just using some distilled water or some osmosis water without adjusting the ph for now until I can get the ph kit?

I wouldn't give a plant anything til you can adjust pH other than distilled water... And ONLY do this while waiting for your pH adjustment and test solutions

 

[sno capz]

I use just about everything in the GO lineup besides the BioMarine/BioWeed

Do you use Diamond Black?

 

[sno capz]

I use just about everything in the GO lineup besides the BioMarine/BioWeed

The General Organics lineup is meant to be used I'm full to essentially provide what a plant needs to thrive! I use the exact same lineup...

General Organics:
BioThrive
CalMag
BioRoot
BioWeed
BioMarine
Diamond Black

Do you adjust your pH both before and after mixing your nutrients? Or just after?

 

[bbyb420]

The General Organics lineup is meant to be used I'm full to essentially provide what a plant needs to thrive! I use the exact same lineup...

General Organics:
BioThrive
CalMag
BioRoot
BioWeed
BioMarine
Diamond Black

Do you adjust your pH both before and after mixing your nutrients? Or just after?

I do it after I have everything mixed. And yes I use diamond black