There is more evidence of God than can be denied.

Do you believe that a higher power and infinite intelligence is at work in the universe?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 25.0%
  • No

    Votes: 16 66.7%
  • Uncertain

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • Total voters
    24

New Age United

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I noticed that there isn't much going on in the philosophy threads so I want to start a debate. IMO there is much more evidence to support the existence of a higher power and infinite intelligence than there is against it. Please offer your opinions and I will offer mine.
 

Chester da Horse

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the delusion is in describing an entity called 'God' instead of recognising that there is a cosmic energy and 'consciousness' - that not only defines and limits our universe, but is generated anew in each conscious thought.

With thoughts, WE create the world.

(I think, therefore I am on a more spiritual level)
 

torontoke

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I noticed that there isn't much going on in the philosophy threads so I want to start a debate. IMO there is much more evidence to support the existence of a higher power and infinite intelligence than there is against it. Please offer your opinions and I will offer mine.
When u say "infinite intelligence" do u mean aliens or god.
I believe theres more evidence of aliens than god.
I have learnt over the years that people that have lived cushier easier lives are far more likely to believe the evidence of god.
I think people with shittier lives are more likely to not believe at all than believe god is real but hates them.
 

Diabolical666

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When u say "infinite intelligence" do u mean aliens or god.
I believe theres more evidence of aliens than god.
I have learnt over the years that people that have lived cushier easier lives are far more likely to believe the evidence of god.
I think people with shittier lives are more likely to not believe at all than believe god is real but hates them.
Absolutley...alien overlords and the material world make more sense to me;)
 

New Age United

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Can you please give examples of all the evidence?
The fact that the odds against life existing are infinite (mathematical definition) and yet it does exist. Example the odds of the moon crashing into the Earth and creating the perfect balance for life to form; you can say this was a chance occurrence but when you factor in all of the other things that were required such as the mass of the earth and moon and it's proper distance from the sun then it begins to appear that there is order and reason behind it all; it's as if a higher conscious is aware and active in the universe. Can you come up with another explanation?
 

New Age United

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When u say "infinite intelligence" do u mean aliens or god.
I believe theres more evidence of aliens than god.
I have learnt over the years that people that have lived cushier easier lives are far more likely to believe the evidence of god.
I think people with shittier lives are more likely to not believe at all than believe god is real but hates them.
It is very common for people to feel that God, fate, the universe is set against them, in fact I would say that it is more common for people to feel that God is evil than god is good. I am a paranoid schizophrenic; I have had no cushy life, but still I can not deny the facts. Perhaps god created us just so he could watch us suffer; I don't hold on to the idea of a loving father, but still I can not deny the facts. To me it appears evident that a higher power is aware and active in the universe.
 

New Age United

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there is no evidence of a god...if there was, there would be no need of a debate
Yes there is evidence of god, if you can read and write than you can understand. Just look at the DNA code; there is no way that carbon atoms would have formed the double helix on there own, there absolutely must be a higher intelligence at work. You can still debate; the truth is most often counter-intuitive and what may appear as evident could in fact be false, there could be another explanation.
 

Rrog

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This entire "existence" is a holographic illusion. Like wearing Oculus Rift Headset and playing a video game. You're immersed in it so it becomes your reality. Our perception of reality is surprisingly easy to manipulate
 

New Age United

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This entire "existence" is a holographic illusion. Like wearing Oculus Rift Headset and playing a video game. You're immersed in it so it becomes your reality. Our perception of reality is surprisingly easy to manipulate
How is our perceptions of reality easy to manipulate?
 

New Age United

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None of what you posted proves the exsistence of a higher power. You gave your opinion on what the odds against life forming means to you.
Yes; now it is up to you to use logic effectively and determine your own understanding. Please share any opinions either for or against me.
 

Rrog

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Google "Brain Fooled" and see the results. Hundreds of examples of what we feel is "real," actually isn't.
 

Padawanbater2

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The fact that the odds against life existing are infinite (mathematical definition) and yet it does exist. Example the odds of the moon crashing into the Earth and creating the perfect balance for life to form; you can say this was a chance occurrence but when you factor in all of the other things that were required such as the mass of the earth and moon and it's proper distance from the sun then it begins to appear that there is order and reason behind it all; it's as if a higher conscious is aware and active in the universe. Can you come up with another explanation?
Look up the Drake equation, the odds that we're the only life in the universe is mathematically impossible

Your perception of what "perfect" is is subject to your own consciousness and life experiences. Who's to say life on Earth with 2 moons, or no moons for that matter wouldn't be better? You don't know because you've never experienced it. You believe life in Earth is "perfect" because your ancestors evolved on Earth. We're all subjects of our environment and if we don't adapt we die. 99% of all species that have ever existed on Earth have gone extinct, do you think it was "perfect" for them?
 
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