Our Media In Action..

schuylaar

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It may lack imagination, but I think we're doing at least some of it right here.
so that would be the #1 thing i would bring up in discussing bernie and the media, is that they are biased according to which billionaire owns it..most anyone can understand that. bias is cheating and most people hate cheaters in general..trying to take your vote away by feeding you erroneous information.
 

ginwilly

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i guess first and foremost we could ask the question: just who owns these media sources..the 1%? (and that would be the .5% for GW).
85 people own as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. 85 out of 7B is a helluva lot less than 1%. It's a talking point that you have bought into, leave the working well off out of it. The guy who owns the local hardware store (if they haven't been put out of business by Home Depot) could be part of that 1% and works his ass off. The 20 year old kid making the minimum in major league baseball is part of the 1%. Just trying to put things in perspective for ya.

You could even say .00001% and be more correct. And yes, those are the people that own the news outlets.
 

UncleBuck

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85 people own as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. 85 out of 7B is a helluva lot less than 1%. It's a talking point that you have bought into, leave the working well off out of it. The guy who owns the local hardware store (if they haven't been put out of business by Home Depot) could be part of that 1% and works his ass off. The 20 year old kid making the minimum in major league baseball is part of the 1%. Just trying to put things in perspective for ya.

You could even say .00001% and be more correct. And yes, those are the people that own the news outlets.
do you really think any of us believe you are worried about income inequality?
 

ttystikk

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85 people own as much wealth as the poorest half of the world's population. 85 out of 7B is a helluva lot less than 1%. It's a talking point that you have bought into, leave the working well off out of it. The guy who owns the local hardware store (if they haven't been put out of business by Home Depot) could be part of that 1% and works his ass off. The 20 year old kid making the minimum in major league baseball is part of the 1%. Just trying to put things in perspective for ya.

You could even say .00001% and be more correct. And yes, those are the people that own the news outlets.
This sounds dramatic, but you've misrepresented the truth and many details are incorrect.

The only one you got RIGHT was the top 85 richest owning as much as the poorest half of the world's population.

The top one percent of Americans own 40% of all wealth in the country; the top ten percent own 85% of it. Most of them have never had to work in their lives. That means that the other 270 million Americans- those off use who actually make the country run- collectively own just fifteen percent of the real assets of the nation.

In other words, the crumbs from their table.

Quit fucking making excuses for them, already.
 

ginwilly

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This sounds dramatic, but you've misrepresented the truth and many details are incorrect.

The only one you got RIGHT was the top 85 richest owning as much as the poorest half of the world's population.

The top one percent of Americans own 40% of all wealth in the country; the top ten percent own 85% of it. Most of them have never had to work in their lives. That means that the other 270 million Americans- those off use who actually make the country run- collectively own just fifteen percent of the real assets of the nation.

In other words, the crumbs from their table.

Quit fucking making excuses for them, already.
The top 1% also pay half our federal taxes. To be in the top 1% in connecticut you have to make 700K a year, to make the top 1% in Arkansas it's 228k a year, stop acting like people making that make decisions that affect your life. Here's a link of state by state, I think you will be shocked. 394K a year to be considered top 1
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/1-percent-in-each-state-map_n_6548222.html
120k a year gets you into the top 10%. I would imagine 100's of members here qualify. Stop acting as though those people are the evil rich controlling the world. We've propped up an economy by encouraging debt, we have reaped what we have sowed.
 

ttystikk

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The top 1% also pay half our federal taxes. To be in the top 1% in connecticut you have to make 700K a year, to make the top 1% in Arkansas it's 228k a year, stop acting like people making that make decisions that affect your life. Here's a link of state by state, I think you will be shocked. 394K a year to be considered top 1
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/1-percent-in-each-state-map_n_6548222.html
120k a year gets you into the top 10%. I would imagine 100's of members here qualify. Stop acting as though those people are the evil rich controlling the world. We've propped up an economy by encouraging debt, we have reaped what we have sowed.
Stop acting like these people make decisions that affect my life? Why, because you'd like to see them continue doing it unmolested by us pesky inconvenient serfs who should just shut up and keep working for minimum wage?

You really are benighted. You've even gone to the trouble of digging up the very evidence of the crime and try to use it as a defense! I leave you to the tender mercies of uncle buck.
 

ginwilly

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Stop acting like these people make decisions that affect my life? Why, because you'd like to see them continue doing it unmolested by us pesky inconvenient serfs who should just shut up and keep working for minimum wage?

You really are benighted. You've even gone to the trouble of digging up the very evidence of the crime and try to use it as a defense! I leave you to the tender mercies of uncle buck.
Wow

I'm saying a household of 120K a year (top 10%) should have no bearing on your life, that would be a teacher married to a linesman at GM. A fireman married to a nurse, holy fuck man, are you really that poor that you think a fireman and nurse control you?

Focus your energy on those uber rich fuckers like the Romney's of the world, leave the working well off out of it. You are just repeating the talking points, do you consider the occupy movement a success? Think what it could have been with a coordinated effort aimed in the right direction instead of what it actually became.
 

ttystikk

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Wow

I'm saying a household of 120K a year (top 10%) should have no bearing on your life, that would be a teacher married to a linesman at GM. A fireman married to a nurse, holy fuck man, are you really that poor that you think a fireman and nurse control you?

Focus your energy on those uber rich fuckers like the Romney's of the world, leave the working well off out of it. You are just repeating the talking points, do you consider the occupy movement a success? Think what it could have been with a coordinated effort aimed in the right direction instead of what it actually became.
When you quit pulling shit out of your as and trying to pass it off as fact, I'll get off your case.

Who exactly do you think forms the local backbone of the political power structure? Who fills the seats in 'patronage positions'?!

You really are as dim as Bucky says.
 

ginwilly

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When you quit pulling shit out of your as and trying to pass it off as fact, I'll get off your case.

Who exactly do you think forms the local backbone of the political power structure? Who fills the seats in 'patronage positions'?!

You really are as dim as Bucky says.
I linked you to the stats that shows what it takes to make the 1% and 10%. I even used huffpo, why are you still disputing the facts and saying I'm pulling them out of my ass? And you called me dim while doing it, wow.
 

UncleBuck

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Who exactly do you think forms the local backbone of the political power structure? Who fills the seats in 'patronage positions'?!
obviously the not so well off who spend all their time working. certainly not the rather well off types who have plenty of extra time.

sarcasm aside, great point. my in laws get by on one income of $400k, the wife is very active in state politics. they've met the obamas before on multiple occasions too.

obviously these mere 1 percenters (as opposed to 0.01 percenters) have no influence.
 

ttystikk

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obviously the not so well off who spend all their time working. certainly not the rather well off types who have plenty of extra time.

sarcasm aside, great point. my in laws get by on one income of $400k, the wife is very active in state politics. they've met the obamas before on multiple occasions too.

obviously these mere 1 percenters (as opposed to 0.01 percenters) have no influence.
THANK YOU. I really need to get out of the habit of talking to idiots. It's such a waste of time.
 

ginwilly

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THANK YOU. I really need to get out of the habit of talking to idiots. It's such a waste of time.
So show us you are not one of those idiots you are talking about.

Is the 3rd baseman on your favorite major league baseball team part of the 1%? Is he keeping you poor? Will you still repeat the same talking point even knowing it's not entirely true?

Focus your anger on the owner of that team, he's part of the good ole boy network that is buying off politicians, not just the 1%.

Or you could go shit in the floor, call me names and think you've proven something, that seems to work for some here.
 

UncleBuck

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So show us you are not one of those idiots you are talking about.

Is the 3rd baseman on your favorite major league baseball team part of the 1%? Is he keeping you poor? Will you still repeat the same talking point even knowing it's not entirely true?

Focus your anger on the owner of that team, he's part of the good ole boy network that is buying off politicians, not just the 1%.

Or you could go shit in the floor, call me names and think you've proven something, that seems to work for some here.
these meltdowns never get old.
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

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So show us you are not one of those idiots you are talking about.

Is the 3rd baseman on your favorite major league baseball team part of the 1%? Is he keeping you poor? Will you still repeat the same talking point even knowing it's not entirely true?

Focus your anger on the owner of that team, he's part of the good ole boy network that is buying off politicians, not just the 1%.

Or you could go shit in the floor, call me names and think you've proven something, that seems to work for some here.
Third baseman on my favorite team definitely is part of the 1%. He pulls in 16 million a year and has exactly zero say in my life.
 

Rob Roy

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well i do like to invite everyone to participate.
Politics?

An invitation may be declined. An edict placing all people in an involuntary all encompassed group backed by threats of force is more difficult to decline.

Words have meanings. I invite you to ponder the inherent violence of politics.
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

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except for the nikes:wink:
Nope. Don't wear them. I prefer Skechers, especially now with their new memory foam insoles. So soft, so comfortable. Nikes are always uncomfortable on my feet.

I wear a size 13 wide, and Nike just has never done that size to my tastes. I did wear nikes when I was kid, but Adrian Beltre had no influence on that. He's my age, a bit younger actually, so I was choosing shoes not based on opinions from a kid younger than I in the Dominican Republic. bongsmilie
 
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