Church shooting.

NewtoMJ

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Why don't you think this was an act of terrorism?

He was seeking change politically, he did it for political reasons; because he believes black people "are taking over the country", that's terrorism, man..

Don't let your bias get in the way of calling it what it is. It's murder, it's a hate crime, and it's also terrorism, he was seeking political change

If he was a Muslim and he sought to kill infidels, would you call it terrorism? Of course, right?

So why is it different when he's a Christian seeking to kill black people because he thinks they're taking over the country "and they have to go"?

Fuck that, man. I don't mean to pick on you specifically, but that's unacceptable. We call a spade a spade when it's a Muslim killing people for his beliefs, but ignore it as a "lone crazy gunman" when it's "one of our own"!

Fuck no. People need to acknowledge this for what it is. Stop hiding behind their dogshit religion that perpetuates it and stop defending these fucking psycho's that commit it. That's the only way to fucking stop it.

This fucking idiot is a goddamn homegrown American terrorist and it's specifically because of his fanatical right wing ideology
Even if he was a Muslim, I would not call him a terrorist. Others would, but not me. The definition we use for terrorism here in the United States is watered down to give our government more power and authority to carry out bull shit in other countries. Dylaan Roof didn't scare anyone before the attack, and he doesn't scare anyone now he's in custody. You're a fool if you think his plan would have started a civil war, or anything other than bull shit talking points. Real terrorism is entire populations hiding from you and peeking through drapes. Real terrorism is being afraid of clear sunny days because a drone may kill you. Real terrorism is not wanting to get on a plane because it may end up in the side of a building. Real terrorism is going door to door telling families they can't live in their homes, because I am here in your country and I have an American flag on my arm. I have seen and committed terrorism, real things that enslave populations with fear and Rob them of hope for the future. If you or anyone else thinks Roof accomplished that, then I'm sorry but you don't understand what true terrorism is.
 

londonfog

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Even if he was a Muslim, I would not call him a terrorist. Others would, but not me. The definition we use for terrorism here in the United States is watered down to give our government more power and authority to carry out bull shit in other countries. Dylaan Roof didn't scare anyone before the attack, and he doesn't scare anyone now he's in custody. You're a fool if you think his plan would have started a civil war, or anything other than bull shit talking points. Real terrorism is entire populations hiding from you and peeking through drapes. Real terrorism is being afraid of clear sunny days because a drone may kill you. Real terrorism is not wanting to get on a plane because it may end up in the side of a building. Real terrorism is going door to door telling families they can't live in their homes, because I am here in your country and I have an American flag on my arm. I have seen and committed terrorism, real things that enslave populations with fear and Rob them of hope for the future. If you or anyone else thinks Roof accomplished that, then I'm sorry but you don't understand what true terrorism is.
ter·ror·ism
ˈterəˌrizəm/
noun
noun: terrorism
the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims

The guy killed stating that certain people are talking over America and raping his women. The guy is a terrorist. He wanted to start a race war.. TERRORIST
 

Hookabelly

Well-Known Member
Give me a break, man.. That's absolutely not what the narrative would be if the dude was a Muslim

It's terrorism, not just murder. Where the fuck was the FBI on this one? His roommate said he'd been planning this attack for 6 months

So much for that NSA domestic spying program
didn't the governor say this morning that this was indeed a hate crime though?
 

NewtoMJ

Well-Known Member
ter·ror·ism
ˈterəˌrizəm/
noun
noun: terrorism
the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims

The guy killed stating that certain people are talking over America and raping his women. The guy is a terrorist. He wanted to start a race war.. TERRORIST
Why haven't you called the police terrorists? By that definition, they are. More so than Roof, so why do you afford them such a pass?
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Why haven't you called the police terrorists? By that definition, they are. More so than Roof, so why do you afford them such a pass?
What police ? all police? Sounds like you reaching for something to cover up the fact you are incorrect
 

NewtoMJ

Well-Known Member
What police ? all police? Sounds like you reaching for something to cover up the fact you are incorrect
The ones who killed Eric Garner.
The Ferguson police department.
The Baltimore police department.
Those, those police who use violence or intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. Why do you fail to call them terrorists?
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
The ones who killed Eric Garner.
The Ferguson police department.
The Baltimore police department.
Those, those police who use violence or intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. Why do you fail to call them terrorists?
What was the political aim of the Bmore police ?
 

Tazbud

Well-Known Member
These things were so shocking, we had one of these mass shootings in our country and got rid of what was left of the community owned guns. While our nutjob had a pile of autoloaders, now you (consequently people like him) can't own one without good reason. Settling arguments, consoling ego, alleviating fear or paranoia, these just aren't good enough reasons.
 
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