How to stop the STRETCH!!!!

harris hawk

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LST a long with defoliation. Plants look great - good job on a FIM . Heard that some keep topping,FIM, ect after the 4th node on the one you all ready did it. The more one tops, fim,ect all ways take height away from plant (no more than 3 per branch - 2 is the norm)
 

lilzuko

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I tried to feed them on the last water, 1/2 of the dose and it burnt the tips, so I'm going to hold out until 2 weeks prior of flowering to start bloom nutes.
 

narkush

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I am in veg and the plants were germinated on May 9th. 2 feet is as close as I can get without it raising the temps and causing burning to the tops. I have a 8in phresh carbon filter outside the tent exhausting into a different room. The other side of the reflector is acting like a vacuum to get all the stinky air out of the room for a stealthy grow.
What strain are you growing, if I may ask?.

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Semper.Fi

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Few tricks I employ to slow the stretch . . . .

Reduce the difference between lights on and lights off room temperature. Keep humidity as constant as poss.
Avoid Vitamins, Aminos and Fulvic Acid during transition
Reduce N slightly a week after 12/12, increase P for root mass, it'll work on root mass more than branches.

And here's one for the @skunkd0c . . . .. defoliation . . . .. lol

Couple of bucks worth there for yah :)





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harris hawk

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I tried to feed them on the last water, 1/2 of the dose and it burnt the tips, so I'm going to hold out until 2 weeks prior of flowering to start bloom nutes.
Good idea !!! Do you use the no "N" method during flower stage? There are also 3 stages of flower (early, middle,late) each stage needs a specific NPK (bloom boosters)
 

Semper.Fi

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Yo dude, that is NOT burn . . . . they are getting seriously deficient in the trace elements . . . . .

In particular Zinc baby . . . . . :)

Get a balanced trace feed in there, N looks ok, as does P, K could do with upping, along with Ca/Mg/Fe.


LIKE NOW!!!!! Whether they've just been watered or not. Better still, drench both sideS of the leaves with a 0.5EC folia spray of the trace elements, they'll love you for it ;)


PH TO 6.6!!!


I have 3 that are doing awesome but then I have 3 that are doing ok, some sort of deficient I don't know of. Maybe someone would know....


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Semper.Fi

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No my friend, allow leaves to drop naturally with a deficiency, the plant is deficient, so it will carry on devouring what is in leaves until the deficiency is sorted, if you remove the current "cells" of fuel, it will simply move onto the next "cells" of fuel until you have no more leaves, plant dies,, the end!

Don't need a $$$ brand of folia spray, you'll probably get in bouncing back from an gentle even balanced feed that contains all the elements . . . make it up yourself, in a spray bottle, 1/4 strength (I go for 0.6EC, from RO, bout 6.0ph)

I just cut off all the deficient fan leaves, but I will buy a folia spray to use next.



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ButchyBoy

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No my friend, allow leaves to drop naturally with a deficiency, the plant is deficient, so it will carry on devouring what is in leaves until the deficiency is sorted, if you remove the current "cells" of fuel, it will simply move onto the next "cells" of fuel until you have no more leaves, plant dies,, the end!
This made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!! +REP

Once dry I crush them onto the soil surface.
 

lilzuko

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No my friend, allow leaves to drop naturally with a deficiency, the plant is deficient, so it will carry on devouring what is in leaves until the deficiency is sorted, if you remove the current "cells" of fuel, it will simply move onto the next "cells" of fuel until you have no more leaves, plant dies,, the end!

Don't need a $$$ brand of folia spray, you'll probably get in bouncing back from an gentle even balanced feed that contains all the elements . . . make it up yourself, in a spray bottle, 1/4 strength (I go for 0.6EC, from RO, bout 6.0ph)






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I still need a brand of feed then, and I don't know what 0.6EC means
 

Semper.Fi

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I'm sorry I didn't know you have no nutrient . . . . . that's such a personal choice . . . . .

If I was right in your situation now, I'd be preparing ' 1/4 strength Canna Mono Trace and drench the leaves top and bottom with it. Once the trace deficiencies goi, we'll get a better ideas on what other elements are missing . . . . :)

0.6EC?? The EC stands for Electrical Conductivity. It's a measurement of the amount of solids in the water that make the water more conductive, able to pass a current through it . .. .

In other words, the strength of the feeds you are giving them ;)



I still need a brand of feed then, and I don't know what 0.6EC means


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lilzuko

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I have all fox farm nutes ( big bloom, grow big, tiger bloom) also I have the powered flowering nutes from ff. But I'm not using any nutes at the moment
 

Semper.Fi

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If the elements are listed on your bottles , find the one with all the trace elements in it . . .. ZINC, moly, copper, boron are nearly totally missing . . . .

Make up a quart, add enough of that product to make 1/4 strength . . . . .teaspoon to a gallon . . . . . 1/8 of a teaspoon in your quart, PH it low 6 . . . ..

I have all fox farm nutes ( big bloom, grow big, tiger bloom) also I have the powered flowering nutes from ff. But I'm not using any nutes at the moment


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lilzuko

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I will look at the bottles, but I've been looking at the canna mono, but I can't find a retailer in the states, looks like I have to offer from the UK and it will take about 2 weeks
 

Semper.Fi

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No worries there m man . . . . our plants will give off a number of subtle signs they are reaching maturing, one of those signs are few sexing flowers at the internodes . . . .

Another is the stem or branches going from a parallel pattern of growth to a stepped pattern . . . .

Got my Mono in Canada . . . .I'll have a hunt, I'd be surprised if it's not here, shit hope sot, 1/2 left :?

Can u find Bio Genesis Mineral Matrix near you?



Now tell me this.... Why are my plants flowering when they are in a 18/6 schedule? And they are not autos....


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Semper.Fi

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Nice one ta bro . . . . .

This made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!! +REP

Once dry I crush them onto the soil surface.


Just a note to add to more newerssssss, no amount of the plant consuming itself will sort out a deficiency, only you, the grower can stop the process!!!

Leaves turn yellow because they are being stripped, the plant will not repair itself . . . .you will need to add more of the element it's robbing itself of . . . . . so another way, the plant robs itself because there is NOTHING left, it's not doing it to put things right . . . . .for a better day tomorrow, if there is one . . . . .

No my friend, allow leaves to drop naturally with a deficiency, the plant is deficient, so it will carry on devouring what is in leaves until the deficiency is sorted, if you remove the current "cells" of fuel, it will simply move onto the next "cells" of fuel until you have no more leaves, plant dies,, the end!

Don't need a $$$ brand of folia spray, you'll probably get in bouncing back from an gentle even balanced feed that contains all the elements . . . make it up yourself, in a spray bottle, 1/4 strength (I go for 0.6EC, from RO, bout 6.0ph)






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