What comes first, ethics or profit?

What comes first?

  • Profit

    Votes: 6 35.3%
  • Ethics

    Votes: 11 64.7%

  • Total voters
    17

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I know. My point went over your head. Root causes etc. I'm gonna let this one slide though and just claim I'm smarter than you and let you figure it out or chase your tail for awhile.
yeah RR you want to know whats wrong with the government? they allow billionaires to walk away without contributing a cent to the pot..that's what's wrong.
 

NewtoMJ

Well-Known Member
If you own a business, what comes first, your ability to turn a profit or the ethical treatment of your employees?

For example, if you make $.01 profit for every business day after costs, but your employees earn a living wage, is that better or worse, in your opinion, than you earning $5.00 profit for every business day, but your employees require government assistance to pay their bills? How did you reach your conclusion?
I thought about it more, this question is hard. There are a lot of factors unknown. Imo, something like commission or profit sharing is ideal. A system that directly ties the success of the business, with the size of the paycheck an employee will earn. I say this because I do believe people should make a good living, but I don't think it has to be do the detriment of profits.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
yeah RR you want to know whats wrong with the government? they allow billionaires to walk away without contributing a cent to the pot..that's what's wrong.
No, what's wrong with the coercive government is it arises from coercion and uses coercion as a means.

Coercive means are bad. It's pretty fucking simple.

Sorry to expose your flailing in the branches at symptoms. Addressing root causes seems to have eluded you.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
No, what's wrong with the coercive government is it arises from coercion and uses coercion as a means.

Coercive means are bad. It's pretty fucking simple.

Sorry to expose your flailing in the branches at symptoms. Addressing root causes seems to have eluded you.
the root cause for rules and regs? you need to look no further than the people like YOU.
 

TBoneJack

Well-Known Member
If you own a business, what comes first, your ability to turn a profit or the ethical treatment of your employees?

For example, if you make $.01 profit for every business day after costs, but your employees earn a living wage, is that better or worse, in your opinion, than you earning $5.00 profit for every business day, but your employees require government assistance to pay their bills? How did you reach your conclusion?
Well, I was thinking about this general kinda thing today while driving to work.

I would want to pay my employees well, but only if I was making a decent profit too, or at least could see it coming in the near future.

I really care about the plight of poor people, minimum wage earners, etc. And I would respect and desire to help my employees. But there's no fucking way in hell that I'm going to go out on a limb and risk my present and future being self-employed mainly to help other people. If I can't see a future of good profit soon, I'm closing that business down and bailing to find gainful employment. My family depends on me doing so.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
NO YOU ARE WRONG!

are you fucking stupid or something?

if mcdonads pays a living wage, the problem is solved.
No, I'm not stupid. I thought over the years you might have deduced that.

Does your "solution" have any unintended consequences?


By the way, you are still chasing your tail Fido.
 
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