The Brummie Bubbler

neo12345

Well-Known Member
I'll push 40 I reckon off 2 once I'm on it properly my mate got 50 off 2 not lomg ago using them G13s he uses 250 w lights an has more an puts them closer . I could easily fill that net with 2 reckon I could fill that scrogg with 1 if I verged bit longer them Gs don't hakf grow pisses all over the cheese . Am using bioponic nutes seem ok up 2 now , what nutes you use ???? How long you have left ??
I hope you're ready for a monster trimming session!! lol Even 30 is pretty good from that space, so you shouldn't be worried about that as there are plenty of people that don't get close to that from a 2x1m tent! This run is actually finished but I decided to post it like a journal, just to show people how easy these systems are to use. I know lot's of people that use them and couldn't find much info on RIU about it so started this thread about them, as it's nice to see what other people are doing and swap some tips.

When you say Bioponics do you mean the Hydrotops range, that's what I've been using.
 

Horseman14

New Member
I hope you're ready for a monster trimming session!! lol Even 30 is pretty good from that space, so you shouldn't be worried about that as there are plenty of people that don't get close to that from a 2x1m tent! This run is actually finished but I decided to post it like a journal, just to show people how easy these systems are to use. I know lot's of people that use them and couldn't find much info on RIU about it so started this thread about them, as it's nice to see what other people are doing and swap some tips.

When you say Bioponics do you mean the Hydrotops range, that's what I've been using.[/QUOTE

Am never ready hate them ha, ye cheers for the journal it was a good read Ye these bubblers are a piece of piss, and yes it's good for people to come on and have a look an ask questions , ye the Hydrotops range ,
 

neo12345

Well-Known Member
Am never ready hate them ha, ye cheers for the journal it was a good read Ye these bubblers are a piece of piss, and yes it's good for people to come on and have a look an ask questions , ye the Hydrotops range ,
Do you use their Triple F? Seems like a lot of dosh, does it actually work?
 

Munzi23

Active Member
Quick update they seem to be settling in now lol stopped fiddling and they seem ok just noticed rockwool going green witch I assume it algae so just covered the cube to block the light is this right ?
 

neo12345

Well-Known Member
Quick update they seem to be settling in now lol stopped fiddling and they seem ok just noticed rockwool going green witch I assume it algae so just covered the cube to block the light is this right ?
Have you not made a cover for that area? I normally cover the cube in a layer of pebbles, and then the cover goes over the top of that and it keeps the green away.

Glad they are coming on now, throw some pics up if you want? :bigjoint:
 

Horseman14

New Member
Do you use their Triple F? Seems like a lot of dosh, does it actually work?
Ye neo I used it all the top heavy crop as well don't no if it wo
Do you use their Triple F? Seems like a lot of dosh, does it actually work?

Yes using triple f using the whole range couldn't tell u mate first time I've used it buds lool like they have nearly doubled in the last week or so put a few more pics up in a few weeks before I chop it
 

Horseman14

New Member
Have you not made a cover for that area? I normally cover the cube in a layer of pebbles, and then the cover goes over the top of that and it keeps the green away.

Glad they are coming on now, throw some pics up if you want? :bigjoint:
Hi neo just looking back through this thread , seen the defoliation u talk about , never done it before , usually just top them ,seems like it's worth doing ???
 

mrgreen71

New Member
Hi neo,
I am new here and my next grow I will follow your steps. This system seems to be easy to use and the yields could be amazing.
So how much did you get dry from your two plants ?
Thanks for sharing your tips and advises.
 

mrgreen71

New Member
Have you not made a cover for that area? I normally cover the cube in a layer of pebbles, and then the cover goes over the top of that and it keeps the green away.

Glad they are coming on now, throw some pics up if you want? :bigjoint:
Hi neo,
I am new here and my next grow I will follow your steps. This system seems to be easy to use and the yields could be amazing.
So how much did you get dry from your two plants ?
Thanks for sharing your tips and advises.
 

Munzi23

Active Member
Hi neo,
I am new here and my next grow I will follow your steps. This system seems to be easy to use and the yields could be amazing.
So how much did you get dry from your two plants ?
Thanks for sharing your tips and advises.
Neo been gone for like a year bro !
 

greendave

Active Member
Hey neo AWESOME job sorry was late to the show,quick question what are your water temps hi and low range. Also how do you keep your water temps in check?Thanks great info.
 

Buckers

Member
The Brummie Bubbler is a drip fed DWC system, the name is supposedly to have come from the original company making these posting most of them to the Birmingham area of the UK.

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To build this system you will need the following items, these can be bought separately or as a kit from good hydroponic shops for around £50.

1 x 90L Black plastic utility tank
1 x 15L Subsurface tray
1 x Mimouse water pump
1 x Twin outlet air pump
2 x 50mm Round air stones
2 x 1m 4mm Air line
1 x 15L Clay pebbles
1 x 1m of 13mm flexi hose
1 x 13mm T joint
1 x 13 Elbow joint

Start by drilling holes in the bottom of the smaller 15L subsurface tray (inside red area), you will need lot's of holes all over the bottom of the tray for the roots to grow through. Use a drill bit that is smaller than the size of the clay pebbles as you don't want them falling through the holes, I think clay pebbles are 8-10mm so I used a 6.5mm drill to drill my holes.

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I also drilled a line of holes along the base of the container, and you can drill as many holes as you like but the idea is to encourage your roots to grow downwards towards the nutrient solution. Trust me by the time you drilled the base you won't want to start drilling the sides too!

Once the holes have been drilled take the tray outside and fill with clay pebbles, give these a very good rinse with a hosepipe as you will get a lot of grit and dust come out of the bottom. Flush with clean water until it starts running clear. If the wife is not at home this can be done in the kitchen sink or bath, I did hear about someone washing the clay pebbles in the washing machine but you could be in big trouble if she comes home early and catches you doing this!!

Fill with pebbles but not right to the top, leave some space so that the pebbles don't wick water out of the system and onto your floor! Your tank should now look like this but the smaller tray will be full of pebbles:

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Now place the water pump on the bottom of the 90L tank, and cut a length of the 13mm hose that will run from the pump and up to the drip ring. Cut this a couple of inches longer than you think you will need, it can be adjusted afterwards but you can't add hose back on if you cut it too short! It's useful at this stage to get a bowl of hot water to dip the ends of the 13mm pipe in as the pipes slip on to the fittings much easier, and it helps to mold the drip ring.

Attach the pipe to the water pump and fit the 90 degree elbow at the other end, then make the drip ring by softening up a length of 13mm pipe in water and use the 13mm T joint to create a circle for the drip ring. The drip ring will need to be drilled on one side with a 3mm drill bit to allow the water to drip, I drill the holes approx 1" apart.

Then attach the drip ring to hose coming from the pump with a small section of 13mm pipe. The dripper system is open to modification, which is the first thing I did as I saw a better way of doing it but I will go in to more detail later.

Drop in your air stones and your system should now look something like this:

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Fill the system with water to just underneath the tank with the clay pebbles, and you're ready to switch on the water pump and air pump to check everything is working fine. The dripper ring should be dripping water on to the clay pebbles and the airstones should be bubbling away, it's worth checking the airstones are working correctly as I've had a few that were blocked on one side.

That's it, you are ready to roll. I'll add some hints and tips and show a grow using this system, and will welcome any questions.
What strength feed do you start them off with and what ec/cf should you be aiming for? I have just set up and filling tanks today and some say half strength with a ec range of 1.0 - 1.2??
Great set up tutorial btw
 

Bladearse69

New Member
Day 4.

The plants seem to be enjoying their new home.

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I use the dripper system sporadically for the first week, to encourage the roots to search out that lovely nutrient solution that it craves. It seems to enjoy that and has grown a 12" root by the 4th day!!

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The plant on the right was supercropped quite early on in it's life with a technique that I call the Fidi technique.

It stands for F**k I dropped it, which is what I did whilst watering it one day. It landed plant side down, obviously!! This is a highly advanced technique and I would not recommend this if you are a newbie to growing.

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Bladearse69

New Member
I can fit two of these tanks comfortably side by side in a 1.2m x 1.2m tent.

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If you look closely you will see that the two tanks and the air pump are sitting on 3" thick foam, this is used to stop the vibration through the floor from the bubbler system. Luckily I'm using mine on a concrete floor but you can still get a humming from them, this is 10 times worse if you have a wooden floor and if you live in a semi or terraced house this hum can travel into your neighbours house and the last thing you want is them asking if you can hear something humming! So get some foam down before you start installing your system or some other kind of insulation or anti vibration mats.

You may also notice the silver lids my tanks now have, some kits come with lids and others don't. You need to keep the nutrient solution in the dark to help to reduce the chances of nasty things growing in it, so I made my own with some bits I had just laying around.

I used some cardboard to make the lids and covered them in some mylar I had left over, then sealed it all up with some foil tape. Make sure that your lids are water tight as the one side facing the nutrient solution will get fairly damp and you don't want the cardboard going all soggy. You can use some lightproof black plastic sheeting which is available from most stationers or craft shops.

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You can see from this picture how I modified the drip ring, as I found their suggestion was a ring that was either too big like the first ring or too small like the second so I incorporated the two to give a nice even delivery around the plant and roots for now and in the future as the plant gets bigger.

The plants have been in the system for 2 days now and are starting to perk up after their transplanting shock.

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Can anyone tell me if your using clay pebbles in this system is it constant feed in veg and bloom
 

Bladearse69

New Member
The Brummie Bubbler is a drip fed DWC system, the name is supposedly to have come from the original company making these posting most of them to the Birmingham area of the UK.

View attachment 3032727

To build this system you will need the following items, these can be bought separately or as a kit from good hydroponic shops for around £50.

1 x 90L Black plastic utility tank
1 x 15L Subsurface tray
1 x Mimouse water pump
1 x Twin outlet air pump
2 x 50mm Round air stones
2 x 1m 4mm Air line
1 x 15L Clay pebbles
1 x 1m of 13mm flexi hose
1 x 13mm T joint
1 x 13 Elbow joint

Start by drilling holes in the bottom of the smaller 15L subsurface tray (inside red area), you will need lot's of holes all over the bottom of the tray for the roots to grow through. Use a drill bit that is smaller than the size of the clay pebbles as you don't want them falling through the holes, I think clay pebbles are 8-10mm so I used a 6.5mm drill to drill my holes.

View attachment 3032736

I also drilled a line of holes along the base of the container, and you can drill as many holes as you like but the idea is to encourage your roots to grow downwards towards the nutrient solution. Trust me by the time you drilled the base you won't want to start drilling the sides too!

Once the holes have been drilled take the tray outside and fill with clay pebbles, give these a very good rinse with a hosepipe as you will get a lot of grit and dust come out of the bottom. Flush with clean water until it starts running clear. If the wife is not at home this can be done in the kitchen sink or bath, I did hear about someone washing the clay pebbles in the washing machine but you could be in big trouble if she comes home early and catches you doing this!!

Fill with pebbles but not right to the top, leave some space so that the pebbles don't wick water out of the system and onto your floor! Your tank should now look like this but the smaller tray will be full of pebbles:

View attachment 3032752

Now place the water pump on the bottom of the 90L tank, and cut a length of the 13mm hose that will run from the pump and up to the drip ring. Cut this a couple of inches longer than you think you will need, it can be adjusted afterwards but you can't add hose back on if you cut it too short! It's useful at this stage to get a bowl of hot water to dip the ends of the 13mm pipe in as the pipes slip on to the fittings much easier, and it helps to mold the drip ring.

Attach the pipe to the water pump and fit the 90 degree elbow at the other end, then make the drip ring by softening up a length of 13mm pipe in water and use the 13mm T joint to create a circle for the drip ring. The drip ring will need to be drilled on one side with a 3mm drill bit to allow the water to drip, I drill the holes approx 1" apart.

Then attach the drip ring to hose coming from the pump with a small section of 13mm pipe. The dripper system is open to modification, which is the first thing I did as I saw a better way of doing it but I will go in to more detail later.

Drop in your air stones and your system should now look something like this:

View attachment 3032811
Fill the system with water to just underneath the tank with the clay pebbles, and you're ready to switch on the water pump and air pump to check everything is working fine. The dripper ring should be dripping water on to the clay pebbles and the airstones should be bubbling away, it's worth checking the airstones are working correctly as I've had a few that were blocked on one side.

That's it, you are ready to roll. I'll add some hints and tips and show a grow using this system, and will welcome any questions.
Can you tell me is it constant feed in veg and bloom
 
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