The UK Growers Thread!

irish4:20

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@ReLaX and irish I'm goina find out of my ole fella what the craic is with the different prices and that, there is something in this lads I ain't making shit up, I might not be 100% right in what I'm saying but there's more to it than yorkie reckons
Im wit ya man... but even if its like yorkie said they brew the wart here then pass it aroud ha ha how the fck the guiness is the same after that im not sure
 

R3l@X

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@ReLaX and irish I'm goina find out of my ole fella what the craic is with the different prices and that, there is something in this lads I ain't making shit up, I might not be 100% right in what I'm saying but there's more to it than yorkie reckons
Don't get me wrong man u don't usually talk shit so I'm actually curious to what the story is.
 

The Yorkshireman

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all of this proves my argument based on horses mouth, if u live in the uk or America the Guinness will be less fresh than in dublin
Horses mouth my arse man, Paul Walsh never told you that Guinness is stale or 'less fresh' by the time it gets here.

lol, what a load of tosh
 

Mastergrow

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Don't get me wrong man u don't usually talk shit so I'm actually curious to what the story is.
I don't even drink the stuff relax lol, but I know what ur saying about some pubs pints of the black stuff bein better than others, always heard ones I work with saying about it and that could be to do with the lines as ur saying. But there's something about the price too, could just be NI but I dunno. Every pounds a prisoner to my da lol and the only reason he went for the dearer stuff is cos it brought all the ole Guinness drinkers to his bar, he finishes at 8 or so so I'll see what he says on it
 

R1b3n4

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@ReLaX and irish I'm goina find out of my ole fella what the craic is with the different prices and that, there is something in this lads I ain't making shit up, I might not be 100% right in what I'm saying but there's more to it than yorkie reckons
It might be 1 is draught and the other is for a handpull/real ale tap or something?
Maybe 1 is an 11gallon and the other is a 22?
Or thirdly it could be different prices on different BOTTLES maybe?

There is only 1 draught guiness ive ever seen available to buy from ScotCo or Diageo etc in 20years of being in the trade but there are lots of different bottle collections they do and also small batch specials but normally these appear on a handpull pump not a draught pump/T-bar etc, Also 1 year they also did a green guinness for paddies day but cant remember when it was but all those barrels were bright green not grey/metal colour like normal
 

irish4:20

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I don't even drink the stuff relax lol, but I know what ur saying about some pubs pints of the black stuff bein better than others, always heard ones I work with saying about it and that could be to do with the lines as ur saying. But there's something about the price too, could just be NI but I dunno. Every pounds a prisoner to my da lol and the only reason he went for the dearer stuff is cos it brought all the ole Guinness drinkers to his bar, he finishes at 8 or so so I'll see what he says on it
Nah man ive heard this before so i belive it
 

The Yorkshireman

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Im wit ya man... but even if its like yorkie said they brew the wart here then pass it aroud ha ha how the fck the guiness is the same after that im not sure
Very similar to how all Coca Cola in the world tastes the same despite Coke not actually producing any themselves.

Coke ship out the postmix syrup to licensed bottling plants all over the world, the plants bottle the coke to a standardised recipe using their own water supply (probably distilled).


"Guinness Flavour Extract, a dehydrated, hopped wort extract made from barley malt and roasted barley, is used for overseas production of the stout. The syrup is shipped from Ireland, where it is added at the ratio of 1:49 to locally brewed pale beer. In most overseas markets, Guinness Flavour Extract (GFE) is blended with locally brewed beer to produce FES."


To clear up some misinformation Guinness Draught isn't produced in Nigeria, they produce Guinness Foreign Extra Stout among others.

As far as I can tell (without actually phoning Deagio customer services) Guinness Draught in kegs is only produced in Ireland and is shipped out exactly the same.
All the other versions seem to use the wort extract and water it down with local PA to a standardised recipe.
 

irish4:20

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Very similar to how all Coca Cola in the world tastes the same despite Coke not actually producing any themselves.

Coke ship out the postmix syrup to licensed bottling plants all over the world, the plants bottle the coke to a standardised recipe using their own water supply (probably distilled).


"Guinness Flavour Extract, a dehydrated, hopped wort extract made from barley malt and roasted barley, is used for overseas production of the stout. The syrup is shipped from Ireland, where it is added at the ratio of 1:49 to locally brewed pale beer. In most overseas markets, Guinness Flavour Extract (GFE) is blended with locally brewed beer to produce FES."


To clear up some misinformation Guinness Draught isn't produced in Nigeria, they produce Guinness Foreign Extra Stout among others.

As far as I can tell (without actually phoning Deagio customer services) Guinness Draught in kegs is only produced in Ireland and is shipped out exactly the same.
All the other versions seem to use the wort extract and water it down with local PA to a standardised recipe.
Coca cola does not taste the same worldwide man no fckn way does it.... that shit in spain is piss.. its like sayn u got a clone of a plant but it was grown in different conditions ha :) how the fck is that the same..... serious man i like u but sum of the copy and paste bs u put up is fckin annoyin
 

tip top toker

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Coca cola does not taste the same worldwide man no fckn way does it.... that shit in spain is piss.. its like sayn u got a clone of a plant but it was grown in different conditions ha :) how the fck is that the same..... serious man i like u but sum of the copy and paste bs u put up is fckin annoyin
I have to agree. Simplest reason is water quality. Next i'll be hearing the old "you cannot tell the difference between pepsi and coke" argument.
 

R3l@X

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It might be 1 is draught and the other is for a handpull/real ale tap or something?
Maybe 1 is an 11gallon and the other is a 22?
Or thirdly it could be different prices on different BOTTLES maybe?

There is only 1 draught guiness ive ever seen available to buy from ScotCo or Diageo etc in 20years of being in the trade but there are lots of different bottle collections they do and also small batch specials but normally these appear on a handpull pump not a draught pump/T-bar etc, Also 1 year they also did a green guinness for paddies day but cant remember when it was but all those barrels were bright green not grey/metal colour like normal
If someone pulls a pint of guiness from an ale tap they should be shot
 
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