CjSesh0000
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What's up to who never decides to read this....
So I got a couple clones about a month ago from a local indoor grower. I used to grow for fun, became obsessed with it and dug out an underground grow room beneath my house and set up a 4000w HPS operation and became somewhat knowledgeable and decent at growing some good herb. The single greatest thing I learned is its all about the seeds and genetics.
Got married. Had a kid.
8 yrs removed from the game and unexpectedly found myself just doing it for fun again in my backyard. I went and got a bag of perlite, coco loco, ocean forest and some vegamatrix.
I hardened off the clones slowly. Just by the looks of it the guy I got them from was also gifted these babies before giving them to me so there are a couple of unknown variables. I am not sure the soil they were in was initially any good. He said he made it himself... And judging by the fact that he only uses miracle grow I decided once they were hardened off to quickly abort the gallon containers they were in and transplant them with a good flushing of nice clean water and set them up in the two 20gal clay planters on my patio.
Unknowns: whether or not they were cloned and rooted properly or for how long. I also am not certain if he really knew what strains they were or if he just wanted to sound cool. I'm guessing they were in the gallon containers for three weeks sitting on his kitchen table next to a standard lamp with a small cfl bulb in it. I think he rooted them right there on his table in his hom emade soil mixture. I know this BC I had been there a few times prior to him offering them to me.
So I assumed they were rooted and just needed some exposure to the outdoor elements slowly and a little at a time. I started them off in partial broken sunlight underneath my cherry tree for a week and a half with intermittent full exposure. They didn't grow much in that time but I eventually began to realize they might not have properly rooted prior to doing this. Ya know how rooting clones tend to suck the nutrients from the lowest set of fan leaves, leaving it slightly discolored? Almost appears as a nute burn/deficiency. They just weren't doing much if anything at all during this first week or two prior to me noticing these signs. So I went to my local shop and he gave me some samples of cocotek BC I just wanted something light and synthetic to give them a quick shot of something readily available to be drawn up and see if I could trigger some action now that I believed they were ready to take off. This was on June 11th.
I quickly noticed them green up significantly and point for the sun, adjusting to catch and follow the sun as it moves across the sky. The greatest indicator that all is well. 3 cons ecutive days of this later and I placed them into the large planters and gave them a full dose of vegamatrix.
I live at about 6,000ft, 41 degrees north latitude, and its been the hottest June on record. Temps have. Been about 99-104 this past week with no signs of the temps coming down. The way my yard is situated they get full sun from 11:30am until 7pm. I can roll the large planters on an angle of their base to add an additional hour or two in the morning and one more in the evening but I sacrifice stealth mode by having them right out in the yard instead of on my basement patio with the deck overhead and the concrete sidewalls of the basement entrance obstructing the view of anyone but me and the wonderful sunshine.
So now that I have presented the situation..
..... Here are my concerns as I have only grown indoors.... With such high temps and only about 7-8 hours of direct light am I keeping these under control or will I eventually have Huuuge plants that will be stinking up the neighborhood? The properties on either side are only occupied on the weekend and nobody lives behind me, my house rests on the edge of a cliff that goes down maybe 1000ft. To a creek. I guess I'm just not seeing anything near what I would get vegetatively indoors. Obviously I'm aware of all the differences... I've checked and have the fundamentals down and everything is dialed in and under my control except the temps and amount of light. Its maybe 10% humidity and breaking a hundreds just barely everyday. Both plants seem somewhat happy, just not growing much. I'm guessing I have 6 weeks until they begin to flower, but again, I'm just guessing from what I've read.
Forgot to mention, it appears the SLH was topped at the same time they were cloned. Maybe thats what has halted her a bit other than the blazing temps
ive grown a 10pk of dutch passion blueberry before so i am a little familiar, but i can tell this one is another variety, mostly indica but the leaves look mainly hybrid compared to the stumpy and fat leaves i had on the ones i grew before.they aren't to that point where they can survive most everything yet... The blueberry is maybe 5 or six inches tall, 3 sets of nodes, and the SLH is maybe an inch or two taller appearing mostly sativa with alternating nodes instead of the symmetrical appearance indica's have during veg.
Well, I hope I painted an accurate picture.. I want a decent yield with plants slightly bigger than what I was capable of doing under my indoor setup and that's what I am looking forward to. I want input on what I can do to achieve that. I would lollipop my indoor plants and FIM/supercrop to boost my final weight. Should I even bother doing that outdoors? I just want enough for a personal stash to get me through the winter
I can ammend my nutes if needed. I just have the five vegamatrix bottles for now with some OG tea, microbes, G10, deep breathe, snowstorm ultra, purple maxx, and terpinator coming in the mail this week.
Should I be doing anything to compensate for the weather other than monitoring the water?,I just hope they adjust and start growing a little more like what I was used to seeing. I would have plants two and a half feet tall in about 5wks in my indoor setup. I haven't seen these two grow two inches maybe since I got them. Again that was maybe june 10th? And at this point they couldn't have handled anymore sun than what I have allowed them to get. There are a couple very very small/minor signs of sunburn. The pH of the initial soil was reading slightly high from its runoff, around 7.5 but I got about a 6.3 after transplanting them. But they did spend about 3 weeks in that initial container. Any and all advice would be much appreciated. I will upload some pics tomorrow night. I wasn't anticipating such intense heat when I decided to do this and my heart is fully set on seeing this all the way through successfully with some high quality finished product and a somewhat decent yield.
I used to use floranova grow and bloom with some other GH supplements for my indoor with really good results and fast growth. It seems like with the new term 'medicine' (which I think is bogus for people to hide.behind that word BTW) that there is a huge push for a cleaner and organic finished product. That part I can understand and would like to adhere to as much as possible. Vegamatrix appears very dilute for being what kyle claims it is. If anybody thinks I should switch to some thing else tell me now pls! With GH selling out to Scott's I had to abandon them. Almost went with Humboldt's natural grow but the guy at the shop really pushed kyles brand and sold me on it. Anyways, wow I wrote a long one.... Again, any and all input would be appreciated.
So I got a couple clones about a month ago from a local indoor grower. I used to grow for fun, became obsessed with it and dug out an underground grow room beneath my house and set up a 4000w HPS operation and became somewhat knowledgeable and decent at growing some good herb. The single greatest thing I learned is its all about the seeds and genetics.
Got married. Had a kid.
8 yrs removed from the game and unexpectedly found myself just doing it for fun again in my backyard. I went and got a bag of perlite, coco loco, ocean forest and some vegamatrix.
I hardened off the clones slowly. Just by the looks of it the guy I got them from was also gifted these babies before giving them to me so there are a couple of unknown variables. I am not sure the soil they were in was initially any good. He said he made it himself... And judging by the fact that he only uses miracle grow I decided once they were hardened off to quickly abort the gallon containers they were in and transplant them with a good flushing of nice clean water and set them up in the two 20gal clay planters on my patio.
Unknowns: whether or not they were cloned and rooted properly or for how long. I also am not certain if he really knew what strains they were or if he just wanted to sound cool. I'm guessing they were in the gallon containers for three weeks sitting on his kitchen table next to a standard lamp with a small cfl bulb in it. I think he rooted them right there on his table in his hom emade soil mixture. I know this BC I had been there a few times prior to him offering them to me.
So I assumed they were rooted and just needed some exposure to the outdoor elements slowly and a little at a time. I started them off in partial broken sunlight underneath my cherry tree for a week and a half with intermittent full exposure. They didn't grow much in that time but I eventually began to realize they might not have properly rooted prior to doing this. Ya know how rooting clones tend to suck the nutrients from the lowest set of fan leaves, leaving it slightly discolored? Almost appears as a nute burn/deficiency. They just weren't doing much if anything at all during this first week or two prior to me noticing these signs. So I went to my local shop and he gave me some samples of cocotek BC I just wanted something light and synthetic to give them a quick shot of something readily available to be drawn up and see if I could trigger some action now that I believed they were ready to take off. This was on June 11th.
I quickly noticed them green up significantly and point for the sun, adjusting to catch and follow the sun as it moves across the sky. The greatest indicator that all is well. 3 cons ecutive days of this later and I placed them into the large planters and gave them a full dose of vegamatrix.
I live at about 6,000ft, 41 degrees north latitude, and its been the hottest June on record. Temps have. Been about 99-104 this past week with no signs of the temps coming down. The way my yard is situated they get full sun from 11:30am until 7pm. I can roll the large planters on an angle of their base to add an additional hour or two in the morning and one more in the evening but I sacrifice stealth mode by having them right out in the yard instead of on my basement patio with the deck overhead and the concrete sidewalls of the basement entrance obstructing the view of anyone but me and the wonderful sunshine.
So now that I have presented the situation..
..... Here are my concerns as I have only grown indoors.... With such high temps and only about 7-8 hours of direct light am I keeping these under control or will I eventually have Huuuge plants that will be stinking up the neighborhood? The properties on either side are only occupied on the weekend and nobody lives behind me, my house rests on the edge of a cliff that goes down maybe 1000ft. To a creek. I guess I'm just not seeing anything near what I would get vegetatively indoors. Obviously I'm aware of all the differences... I've checked and have the fundamentals down and everything is dialed in and under my control except the temps and amount of light. Its maybe 10% humidity and breaking a hundreds just barely everyday. Both plants seem somewhat happy, just not growing much. I'm guessing I have 6 weeks until they begin to flower, but again, I'm just guessing from what I've read.
Forgot to mention, it appears the SLH was topped at the same time they were cloned. Maybe thats what has halted her a bit other than the blazing temps
ive grown a 10pk of dutch passion blueberry before so i am a little familiar, but i can tell this one is another variety, mostly indica but the leaves look mainly hybrid compared to the stumpy and fat leaves i had on the ones i grew before.they aren't to that point where they can survive most everything yet... The blueberry is maybe 5 or six inches tall, 3 sets of nodes, and the SLH is maybe an inch or two taller appearing mostly sativa with alternating nodes instead of the symmetrical appearance indica's have during veg. Well, I hope I painted an accurate picture.. I want a decent yield with plants slightly bigger than what I was capable of doing under my indoor setup and that's what I am looking forward to. I want input on what I can do to achieve that. I would lollipop my indoor plants and FIM/supercrop to boost my final weight. Should I even bother doing that outdoors? I just want enough for a personal stash to get me through the winter
I can ammend my nutes if needed. I just have the five vegamatrix bottles for now with some OG tea, microbes, G10, deep breathe, snowstorm ultra, purple maxx, and terpinator coming in the mail this week.Should I be doing anything to compensate for the weather other than monitoring the water?,I just hope they adjust and start growing a little more like what I was used to seeing. I would have plants two and a half feet tall in about 5wks in my indoor setup. I haven't seen these two grow two inches maybe since I got them. Again that was maybe june 10th? And at this point they couldn't have handled anymore sun than what I have allowed them to get. There are a couple very very small/minor signs of sunburn. The pH of the initial soil was reading slightly high from its runoff, around 7.5 but I got about a 6.3 after transplanting them. But they did spend about 3 weeks in that initial container. Any and all advice would be much appreciated. I will upload some pics tomorrow night. I wasn't anticipating such intense heat when I decided to do this and my heart is fully set on seeing this all the way through successfully with some high quality finished product and a somewhat decent yield.
I used to use floranova grow and bloom with some other GH supplements for my indoor with really good results and fast growth. It seems like with the new term 'medicine' (which I think is bogus for people to hide.behind that word BTW) that there is a huge push for a cleaner and organic finished product. That part I can understand and would like to adhere to as much as possible. Vegamatrix appears very dilute for being what kyle claims it is. If anybody thinks I should switch to some thing else tell me now pls! With GH selling out to Scott's I had to abandon them. Almost went with Humboldt's natural grow but the guy at the shop really pushed kyles brand and sold me on it. Anyways, wow I wrote a long one.... Again, any and all input would be appreciated.
