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[skunkd0c]

When paying 34 cents a kW/hr your looking for ways to save.

This does not make any sense to me as the cost of weed per gram is much higher than the cost of electricity per kwh

so basically you should use as much power as you can, find the balance where the plants could not use any more power

if you grow weed to save money on having to buy it
or if you sell weed, you will always be losing money if you try to save power over yield

more power = more weed = more bud = more money/savings overall

peace

 

[patrickkawi37]

This does not make any sense to me as the cost of weed per gram is much higher than the cost of electricity per kwh

so basically you should use as much power as you can, find the balance where the plants could not use any more power

if you grow weed to save money on having to buy it
or if you sell weed, you will always be losing money if you try to save power over yield

more power = more weed = more bud = more money/savings overall

peace

I have no amps left over. There is only 150 amp panel. Doing the most with what I got . I can't use more power if there is no power to use

 

[skunkd0c]

I have no amps left over. There is only 150 amp panel. Doing the most with what I got . I can't use more power if there is no power to use

the domestic mains power is only really limited by the cables connecting you to the supply

if someone is trying to achieve the highest gpw score, their yield would be lower than someone who is a little more relaxed about this and prepared to use a little more light

it could come down to, would you rather save a little on your electric or have a few more oz
you cant have both if the goal is also having the maximum gpw efficiency

peace

 

[patrickkawi37]

the domestic mains power is only really limited by the cables connecting you to the supply

if someone is trying to achieve the highest gpw score, their yield would be lower than someone who is a little more relaxed about this and prepared to use a little more light

it could come down to, would you rather save a little on your electric or have a few more oz
you cant have both if the goal is also having the maximum gpw efficiency

peace

Maybe I wasn't clear . I have multiple rooms and I cannot use anymore power at this house on the 150 amp panel . I could get a service upgrade to 200amps but I am renting. I cannot use more light . I could make a smaller footprint and get a higher grams per square meter.. But why? I'm pulling 20-23 consistently off 9 lights . Not many people can say that. I don't care if my footprint is oversized

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

i am not good enough nor balsey enough to grow and get 2 ps in a 4x4. My nugs come out just as nice with 9k watts under 255 sq ft

I run my SE 1000s over 4x4 trays. Usually pull 2.5-3 with the dream. Mold has been the only problem I have had with such dense canopy. I'm doing 5x5 with the DE with slightly higher yields.

 

[patrickkawi37]

the domestic mains power is only really limited by the cables connecting you to the supply

if someone is trying to achieve the highest gpw score, their yield would be lower than someone who is a little more relaxed about this and prepared to use a little more light

it could come down to, would you rather save a little on your electric or have a few more oz
you cant have both if the goal is also having the maximum gpw efficiency

peace

I feel it's more than a few ounces if I made the footprint smaller. I have been hearing a lot of 1.5 averages going around lately. Even on my worst runs I still pull over 2 per lamp

 

[patrickkawi37]

I run my SE 1000s over 4x4 trays. Usually pull 2.5-3 with the dream. Mold has been the only problem I have had with such dense canopy. I'm doing 5x5 with the DE with slightly higher yields.

You are better than I am. Are you getting budrot? What type of mold

 

[patrickkawi37]

With 1000w that's the standard. I thought you knew your shit?

I suck . I can't get 2 as the average from a 4z4 with og. Give me a 5x5 and it's a diff story

 

[skunkd0c]

I feel it's more than a few ounces if I made the footprint smaller. I have been hearing a lot of 1.5 averages going around lately. Even on my worst runs I still pull over 2 per lamp

i was thinking about multi level grows stacked on top of each other for space efficiency,
awkward to manage , will have to get my step ladder out lol

normally 500g per m2 is pretty good, for a single level grow
making good use of the vertical space this could be over 1kg per m2 with a height limit of around 9-10 ft

peace

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

You are better than I am. Are you getting budrot? What type of mold

I have got bud rot before when the canopy was just too dense. Along with that came a white mold I still have yet to identify.

 

[patrickkawi37]

i was thinking about multi level grows stacked on top of each other for space efficiency,
awkward to manage , will have to get my step ladder out lol

normally 500g per m2 is pretty good, for a single level grow
making good use of the vertical space this could be over 1kg per m2 with a height limit of around 9-10 ft

peace

Interesting ideA I think this would be cool to see!

 

[patrickkawi37]

I have got bud rot before when the canopy was just too dense. Along with that came a white mold I still have yet to identify.

The white shit wasn't powdery mildew? I normally get some bud rot every run no matter what I do to help prevent it . Anytime your canopy is that dense with monster donkey nugs it just happens . I have 16 fans in my room (walls and floor) plus two mini splits moving air , and it still happens

 

[skunkd0c]

Interesting ideA I think this would be cool to see!

the only type of multi level grows i have seen like that are professional factory/warehouse type grows
but even then i think most would just use more floor space if they needed it rather than try to manage multi levels

i have always felt i waste a lot of vertical space with my growing
yield space is always quoted in m2, when it should be m3 so i guess most people waste this space too

multi level growing hydroponically is most likely more trouble than its worth for people that have a huge amount of floor space anyway
the vertical stadium type grows are simple and make good use of the vertical height in a given space

 

[patrickkawi37]

the only type of multi level grows i have seen like that are professional factory/warehouse type grows
but even then i think most would just use more floor space if they needed it rather than try to manage multi levels

i have always felt i waste a lot of vertical space with my growing
yield space is always quoted in m2, when it should be m3 so i guess most people waste this space too

multi level growing hydroponically is most likely more trouble than its worth for people that have a huge amount of floor space anyway
the vertical stadium type grows are simple and make good use of the vertical height in a given space

That's what I was thinking more trouble than it's worth but If you can come up with something that works for you then that's badass

 

[skunkd0c]

That's what I was thinking more trouble than it's worth but If you can come up with something that works for you then that's badass

For me its a little different as i have a limited amount of space and i am growing for personal
if i was growing for profit i would just rent more floor space
but indoor for personal i like the idea of making a large yield in a very small discrete space
maximizing this idea would mean making use off all the height availible
i guess i could grow 8ft plants but i would rather grow 2 levels of 3-4 ft plants

peace

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

the only type of multi level grows i have seen like that are professional factory/warehouse type grows
but even then i think most would just use more floor space if they needed it rather than try to manage multi levels

i have always felt i waste a lot of vertical space with my growing
yield space is always quoted in m2, when it should be m3 so i guess most people waste this space too

multi level growing hydroponically is most likely more trouble than its worth for people that have a huge amount of floor space anyway
the vertical stadium type grows are simple and make good use of the vertical height in a given space

They are doing the multiple layers on top of each other because they are only allowed a certain number of square feet to their facility. The laws were written badly, growers have found a gray area where a 5000 sq ft warehouse is turned into "15000 sq ft" without being over their alloted space.

 

[patrickkawi37]

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For me its a little different as i have a limited amount of space and i am growing for personal
if i was growing for profit i would just rent more floor space
but indoor for personal i like the idea of making a large yield in a very small discrete space
maximizing this idea would mean making use off all the height availible
i guess i could grow 8ft plants but i would rather grow 2 levels of 3-4 ft plants

peace

How many plants would you do on each level

 

[patrickkawi37]

They are doing the multiple layers on top of each other because they are only allowed a certain number of square feet to their facility. The laws were written badly, growers have found a gray area where a 5000 sq ft warehouse is turned into "15000 sq ft" without being over their alloted space.

I thought plant count was the big fight . Now we're worried about space too?

 

[skunkd0c]

How many plants would you do on each level

i would experiment and see what works best, from what i see most folk have had best results with lots of small single cola plants,
i would rather keep the numbers lower for legal reasons if possible though
i am quite happy to bend and hack away to keep them under control with spacing

i have heard folk running like 100-200 little clones in these types of set ups
i would not want to be running that many if possible

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

I thought plant count was the big fight . Now we're worried about space too?

The laws in some states changed to square feet. Plant count doesn't matter