PLEASE HELP ME WILL this blow up or just supplement c02

bigbudahluva

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Like the title says really. Got this for £10 full aswel and in date by a year.

I know it not 100% c02 but with a c02 ppm air meter I can still keep the levels in my sealed grow above 800ppm with no explosions right ?

Worried like when lights turn on etc

Cheers as always guy
Peace
 

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greasemonkeymann

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bigbudahluva said:
Like the title says really. Got this for £10 full aswel and in date by a year.

I know it not 100% c02 but with a c02 ppm air meter I can still keep the levels in my sealed grow above 800ppm with no explosions right ?

Worried like when lights turn on etc

Cheers as always guy
Peace
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well I can safely say they won't blow up, you can put OUT fires with nitrogen and co2.
There is more nitrogen in the ambient atmosphere than there is in that tank.
just be sure it's not in a room that is ANYWHERE near where you sleep.
You can asphyxiate easily... go to sleep and don't wake up.
Remember co2 is often a waste of time, without climate control and heat being a limiting factor, not to mention you need to really pump up the lights to be able to even use the extra co2.
Bottom line is, for me? I ran co2 for yrs, and it was a pain in my ass, with the exception of the stems being thicker and the plants a lil shorter, the co2 wasn't worth it at all, I did just as good if not better with simple airflow.
heat is always a bitch with co2.
Perfect world would be a co2 generator that runs off of natural gas, coupled with an A/C unit than also runs off natural gas, in a sealed greenhouse.
Ohhhhh man would that be fuckin cool!
 
Green101189

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might just be a safer bet to get your self a keg of beer to go with it lol.
Co2 is non flammable yet I'm quite sure nitrogen is flammable/volatile... As the non combustible compound is higher I assume it wouldn't ignite... BUT if it were possible for them to separate and the nitrogen build up at the top and the Co2 to settle at the bottom then maybe perhaps it would go boom lol...
I'm no scientist and never even finished school so I might be completely wrong but If that were in my grow space that's what I would be thinking lol.
I vote don't risk it lol
Keep us updated if you blow your self up or not lol
 
bigbudahluva

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My room is Wales. 8x 600w with air cooled reflectors and a/c I have to have c02 in the environment and as something cheap to set me off I grabbed this bottle.

Thanks guys
Always appreciate info ✌
 
bigbudahluva

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I'm not using it to supplement really, as its for a sealed room then I will need it as the room c02 will run out very fast with 128 plants

Will make a couple diy c02 devices maybe. Was advised to get 2 x unis c02 systems. But this method will cost me £400+, I will pay it if it's needs but see so much conflicting evidence on c02 that I only want to get my room c02 ppm to 800/1000

Peace ✌



greasemonkeymann said:
well I can safely say they won't blow up, you can put OUT fires with nitrogen and co2.
There is more nitrogen in the ambient atmosphere than there is in that tank.
just be sure it's not in a room that is ANYWHERE near where you sleep.
You can asphyxiate easily... go to sleep and don't wake up.
Remember co2 is often a waste of time, without climate control and heat being a limiting factor, not to mention you need to really pump up the lights to be able to even use the extra co2.
Bottom line is, for me? I ran co2 for yrs, and it was a pain in my ass, with the exception of the stems being thicker and the plants a lil shorter, the co2 wasn't worth it at all, I did just as good if not better with simple airflow.
heat is always a bitch with co2.
Perfect world would be a co2 generator that runs off of natural gas, coupled with an A/C unit than also runs off natural gas, in a sealed greenhouse.
Ohhhhh man would that be fuckin cool!
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greasemonkeymann

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Green101189 said:
might just be a safer bet to get your self a keg of beer to go with it lol.
Co2 is non flammable yet I'm quite sure nitrogen is flammable/volatile... As the non combustible compound is higher I assume it wouldn't ignite... BUT if it were possible for them to separate and the nitrogen build up at the top and the Co2 to settle at the bottom then maybe perhaps it would go boom lol...
I'm no scientist and never even finished school so I might be completely wrong but If that were in my grow space that's what I would be thinking lol.
I vote don't risk it lol
Keep us updated if you blow your self up or not lol
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you are sure that nitrogen is flammable/volatile? I disagree, and have somewhat of a professional experience to back it up.
you thinking of nitrous oxide?
Nitrogen is inert.
 
Green101189

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greasemonkeymann said:
you are sure that nitrogen is flammable/volatile? I disagree, and have somewhat of a professional experience to back it up.
you thinking of nitrous oxide?
Nitrogen is inert.
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I'm an engineer/ fabricator welder and a little aware of flammable gas's. In welding.... Underwater mainly welders have to be careful not to creat underwater pockets of nitrogen and air as if they were to ignite it with a spark from there welder they would go boom.
But like it says on my first comment, I might be completely wrong so just don't take my word for it.
 
greasemonkeymann

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ljak1407 said:
Nitrogen can be very flammable
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ok man.
you are right, CO2 and Nitrogen will blow the world, explode like crazy.
I'm afraid whenever anyone smokes because the planet is almost 80% nitrogen...
that's scary as hell considering nitrogen is "very flammable"
nitrogen by itself is inert, if it's MIXED with other compounds, which wouldn't be nitrogen anymore, now would it? (like nitrous oxide) that stuff it can be extremely explosive.
but nitrogen, pure, OR in this case mixed with carbon dioxide is NOT, repeat NOT flammable, or explosive.
Argue if you must.
But I won't participate in it.
Why do people have to argue with pointless shit like this?
 
bigbudahluva

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Haha might just release some near a flame see if it does anything.

60%c02 and 40%nitrogen
Feeling the c02 would over power any flammability.

Tell u all what happens
Thanks
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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ljak1407 said:
Hence the "can" be flammable. I didnt state that its flammable itself because it isnt.
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not to beat a dead horse, but HOW?
Your statement confuses the hell out of me..
first off, I don't want to disrespect you at all, so this is meant with the highest respect. Just thought i'd share.
it CANNOT be flammable, unless the actual molecular composition of it is changed.
like adding oxygen molecules to it, but THAT is FAR from being nitrogen.
N2O (nitrous oxide), or NOx nitrides of oxides, (formed at temps of 2500 deg or higher under pressure and heat nitrogen and oxygen BIND together, NOx is a pollutant, I happen to know a thing or two in that regard.
nitrogen is (believe it or not) what makes your car go.
When hydrocarbon and oxygen are under pressure and ignited at the ratio of around 14.7/1 (stoichiometry for gasoline) it explodes, but the nitrogen (being inert and NON explosive OR flammable, only expands with the explosion and forces your piston down.
It's the expansion of the nitrogen under that heat that makes your car go.
the entire concept wouldn't work in the slightest if nitrogen wasn't inert.
 
Final Phase

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greasemonkeymann said:
well I can safely say they won't blow up, you can put OUT fires with nitrogen and co2.
There is more nitrogen in the ambient atmosphere than there is in that tank.
just be sure it's not in a room that is ANYWHERE near where you sleep.
You can asphyxiate easily... go to sleep and don't wake up.
Remember co2 is often a waste of time, without climate control and heat being a limiting factor, not to mention you need to really pump up the lights to be able to even use the extra co2.
Bottom line is, for me? I ran co2 for yrs, and it was a pain in my ass, with the exception of the stems being thicker and the plants a lil shorter, the co2 wasn't worth it at all, I did just as good if not better with simple airflow.
heat is always a bitch with co2.
Perfect world would be a co2 generator that runs off of natural gas, coupled with an A/C unit than also runs off natural gas, in a sealed greenhouse.
Ohhhhh man would that be fuckin cool!
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My grow space is under my house. 12 feet clearance. On the other side of the wall of the grow space is a natural gas clothes dryer. I understand co2 is a waste time unless there is enough light. Now vegging slowly as I'm waiting on cool temps in Oct. (5,000 feet elev.) to naturally cool space when flowering. I'll have 4-5K hps going in the room during flowering.

I've read that the plants don't respond to co2 in flowering - It that your experience? I want to know if it's worth ducting the dryer to help during flowering or is it a waste of time?
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Final Phase said:
My grow space is under my house. 12 feet clearance. On the other side of the wall of the grow space is a natural gas clothes dryer. I understand co2 is a waste time unless there is enough light. Now vegging slowly as I'm waiting on cool temps in Oct. (5,000 feet elev.) to naturally cool space when flowering. I'll have 4-5K hps going in the room during flowering.

I've read that the plants don't respond to co2 in flowering - It that your experience? I want to know if it's worth ducting the dryer to help during flowering or is it a waste of time?
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It's not that they don't respond to co2 during flowering, some strains finish faster, some have more dense bud growth, some respond by making much thicker stems. it's just that in my experience it's simply not worth the trouble, the heat is always a factor, and the humidity from the plants' transpiring more as well.
I got pretty much the exact results from a good ventilation setup, (two 6" vortex fans)
typically co2 is used for the first month of flowering, but it all depends.
Another thing to consider is your gas drier may not make the co2 ppms high enough to be advantageous.
There are growers who swear by it, but for me, I couldn't control the heat enough.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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gas from the dryer makes carbon MONOxide which will kill you and your plants, it does not make c02 which is what they pu tin your coke to carbonate it
 
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