Sam Dubose Murdered by Pig.

bearkat42

bearkat42

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doublejj said:
Lot of technicalities for a murder charge. He would probably jump at a manslaughter plea
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That would be a slap in the face. Basically another win for the police. The man was murdered in cold blood. Reverse those roles, and the black man would be executed.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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bearkat42 said:
That would be a slap in the face. Basically another win for the police. The man was murdered in cold blood. Reverse those roles, and the black man would be executed.
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I don't think the officers race will have much impact on the final verdict..
 
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ChesusRice

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Rrog said:
What states have done this?
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In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least three states, it is now illegal to record any on-duty police officer.
Even if the encounter involves you and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a public street where no expectation of privacy exists.
The legal justification for arresting the “shooter” rests on existing wiretapping or eavesdropping laws, with statutes against obstructing law enforcement sometimes cited. Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland are among the 12 states in which all parties must consent for a recording to be legal unless, as with TV news crews, it is obvious to all that recording is underway. Since the police do not consent, the camera-wielder can be arrested. Most all-party-consent states also include an exception for recording in public places where “no expectation of privacy exists” (Illinois does not) but in practice this exception is not being recognized.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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abandonconflict said:
I don't think anything short of murder conviction will be enough. Just my two cents.
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I'm not sure if you can call it murder. 1st degree requires intent and premeditation, 2nd degree requires some kind of emotional engagement. I think he meant to stop the guy, not kill him. The criminal part is how the guy tried to stop him and the extremely poor judgment he made, DJ's right, I think he'll get a manslaughter charge
 
abandonconflict

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Padawanbater2 said:
I'm not sure if you can call it murder. 1st degree requires intent and premeditation, 2nd degree requires some kind of emotional engagement. I think he meant to stop the guy, not kill him. The criminal part is how the guy tried to stop him and the extremely poor judgment he made, DJ's right, I think he'll get a manslaughter charge
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So he didn't mean to kill him when he shot him in the head?
 
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ChesusRice

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anzohaze said:
If ever asked to step out a car roll windows up and lock the car w keys in it. Have a spare key hidden under car.. then no one can get in
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IN my case. The police woman put her hand on the edge of my door, the only way I could close it was to push her hand away. At which time I was under arrest for assaulting a police officer. After searching my car they let me go. This was after they were tuning me up putting the cuffs on
 
NewtoMJ

NewtoMJ

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bearkat42 said:
Yes, and the standard of proof is that cop saying"I felt threatened". When doesn't a cop feel threatened? Can I shoot a cop when I feel threatened?
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Yes you can, and you should. It's not illegal to defend yourself, even from police if they are in the wrong. If you have the evidence on your side, you can win. It's s tough case though. Until the general public can break the chains of fear, and leave behind their sense of obedience to the abuse of authority I wouldn't try it.
 
tightpockt

tightpockt

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doublejj said:
Driving a car is a privilege not a right. You give up your rights when you apply for a drivers license. Police have all the rights when they pull you over. People refuse to understand this fact & it gets them in trouble. They don't need a reason, the fact that you are on the road is enough justification. You have no rights in a car.
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I'm sure I'm late to the party on this rebuttal but I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic.
The constitution doesn't just go away when you're in a car. Your rights remain firmly intact, granted to every U.S. citizen, weather you're in a car or not.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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abandonconflict said:
So he didn't mean to kill him when he shot him in the head?
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Do you think he meant to shoot him in the head?

Like I said before, totally unexcusable judgment on the cops part, but I don't think he intended to kill the guy and I'm sure that's what the defense will be during the trial and the cop will go down for manslaughter
 
doublejj

doublejj

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tightpockt said:
I'm sure I'm late to the party on this rebuttal but I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic.
The constitution doesn't just go away when you're in a car. Your rights remain firmly intact, granted to every U.S. citizen, weather you're in a car or not.
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did you read all the fine print at the DMV when you applied for your license?....
 
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