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patrickkawi37

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Gquebed said:
3lbs per 1k light?

You have my attention. Hydro? Soilless? Please describe what your doing....?? :)
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Nutrifield Coco/perlite4 . 6-8 per light crammed . Lollipop like a beast. Defoliate end of week 2. I am feeding Every day .. 2 gallons a day. It is a mess I wish I didn't sign up for. But because they were so over vegged and beast . The numbers are going to be insane. Sealed environment , no fresh air. 79degrees, 50% humidity. 1500 ppm co2. 5x5.5 spread . Double ended will help. ( I only have a couple I haven't switched whole room to de) .
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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patrickkawi37 said:
Nutrifield Coco/perlite4 . 6-8 per light crammed . Lollipop like a beast. Defoliate end of week 2. I am feeding Every day .. 2 gallons a day. It is a mess I wish I didn't sign up for. But because they were so over vegged and beast . The numbers are going to be insane. Sealed environment , no fresh air. 79degrees, 50% humidity. 1500 ppm co2. 5x5.5 spread . Double ended will help. ( I only have a couple I haven't switched whole room to de) .
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Run DE at 1150W for absolute best umol/W and spectrum, this from the Gavita mfr rep. It's quite a bit more efficient than single ended.
 
Alaric

Alaric

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patrickkawi37 said:
I appreciate it. I do ask that you take everything on the thread with a grain of salt. As these grows were a couple years ago..Always in the 2 range but when I first started growing. I believe one of them was 11.5 off 4k watts that I posted.. Quality is up ALOT from then and yields are more consistent . But the numbers are around the same.. I am using coco now, before I was using peat. I am growing at least half my rooms with ogs.. Before it was mostly heavy yielding sativas. I have only gotten UNDER 2 pounds per light.. 3 times.. And these were 3 very heavy learning curves. I believe if you run a 5x5 spread and pack your plants .. It is not very difficult to get in the 2pound area.. A lot of growers are getting 3-4+ per light.

I am computer retarded . If I could find a way to upload shit and delete the exif I would gladly share any pictures you guys want. This run I have going now will be the closest I've ever got to 3+ per light .. I will be very surprised if I don't get the 3 number.. So I know you guys want to see pics since most of you think I'm full of shit
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I'm still learning how to navigate this site also-----here's how I looked up all of your threads.
1) click on your handle----up comes your profile page----then click on your handle again-----click on "postings"-----scroll down to the bottom of that page----in small letters you'll see "threads by handle name"---by clicking on that, up comes your thread list-----you can select the thread you want to reference, go up to the menu bar and copy that url------paste it in another thread.

I assume many others here share in my frustration.

It seems that every time someone makes a claim like that, we get "I don't take pictures" or "lost them".

I very familiar with what a 2/1k looks like and the only way I would ever believe 4/1k is if I manicured, dryed, and weighted. I 've never pulled 3/1k----would love to see it----but still haven't.

A~~~
 
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patrickkawi37

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Alaric said:
I'm still learning how to navigate this site also-----here's how I looked up all of your threads.
1) click on your handle----up comes your profile page----then click on your handle again-----click on "postings"-----scroll down to the bottom of that page----in small letters you'll see "threads by handle name"---by clicking on that, up comes your thread list-----you can select the thread you want to reference, go up to the menu bar and copy that url------paste it in another thread.

I assume many others here share in my frustration.

It seems that every time someone makes a claim like that, we get "I don't take pictures" or "lost them".

I very familiar with what a 2/1k looks like and the only way I would ever believe 4/1k is if I manicured, dryed, and weighted. I 've never pulled 3/1k----would love to see it----but still haven't.

A~~~
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I am overly confident that if I don't fuck anything up this batch I will be well into the 3s. I didnt leave anything out. I did everything to the best of my ability and can say this is the first run in a long time that I am PROUD of. I gave every bit of effort possible and there are no loose ends so far. If the ethos collective can pull 4-5 per lamp.. I know that I can smash 3. Not to mention... I damn near did it with the 4 lighter when I had no fucking clue what I was doing. Before I was growing in sunshine following an advanced nutes feeding chart never checking my runoff lol.. So I was smashing 2.5 per lamp, blind for the most part. Now I'm watching my runoff like a hawk , there no yellow leaves , no burn, no retard plants. it is a perfect batch
 
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patrickkawi37

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Alaric said:
I'm still learning how to navigate this site also-----here's how I looked up all of your threads.
1) click on your handle----up comes your profile page----then click on your handle again-----click on "postings"-----scroll down to the bottom of that page----in small letters you'll see "threads by handle name"---by clicking on that, up comes your thread list-----you can select the thread you want to reference, go up to the menu bar and copy that url------paste it in another thread.

I assume many others here share in my frustration.

It seems that every time someone makes a claim like that, we get "I don't take pictures" or "lost them".

I very familiar with what a 2/1k looks like and the only way I would ever believe 4/1k is if I manicured, dryed, and weighted. I 've never pulled 3/1k----would love to see it----but still haven't.

A~~~
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I have pictures . tell me how to delete the exif and safely post them and I will do so. I want everyone to know that the numbers are doable so they can think outside the box on how to step up there game! 4x4 trays are a thing of the past!
 
Alaric

Alaric

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Sorry, I'm no computer wizard-----what is exif? What has changed about "safety" since all those other pics were posted.

Perhaps some one else understands the exif concern?

A~~~
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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patrickkawi37 said:
I can't run 1150 because I am 30
Inches off the canopy this run. The gavita and the nanolux de are in 1000 watt mode
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I hear ya. I guess the DE doesn't get more umol/W @1150W, but I do clearly remember him saying the spectrum shift was beneficial and there was no sacrifice in lifetime performance. Here's the chart;
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patrickkawi37

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Alaric said:
Sorry, I'm no computer wizard-----what is exif? What has changed about "safety" since all those other pics were posted.

Perhaps some one else understands the exif concern?

A~~~
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Please don't be a douche. I am taking pics off of my phone. If you put them from a phone to a computer there is bullshit that shows the number and who took the photo and when . And even the location I think if your location services are on. I am a farmer too not a computer genius . My laptop barely works and is from like 2004. I used to have a thing on there that would delete all the "exif files" is what the program calls it . I tried to upload a few pics from the last run the last time some douche called me a liar and it said "cannot delete exif" . If you right click the photo and go to properties it will show all the info I do not want to disclose .i do not believe it would be wise to post such photos and give the five oh directions to my location . Because we all know they watch this shit. With that being said. I probably am full of shit and probably grow with a 13w cfl in a closet
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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patrickkawi37 said:
Please don't be a douche. I am taking pics off of my phone. If you put them from a phone to a computer there is bullshit that shows the number and who took the photo and when . And even the location I think if your location services are on. I am a farmer too not a computer genius . My laptop barely works and is from like 2004. I used to have a thing on there that would delete all the "exif files" is what the program calls it . I tried to upload a few pics from the last run the last time some douche called me a liar and it said "cannot delete exif" . If you right click the photo and go to properties it will show all the info I do not want to disclose .i do not believe it would be wise to post such photos and give the five oh directions to my location . Because we all know they watch this shit. With that being said. I probably am full of shit and probably grow with a 13w cfl in a closet
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This website strips 'metadata tags' from photos uploaded here. Turn off the location setting on your phone when taking pics so it can't upload 'geotag' info to your pics.
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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patrickkawi37 said:
Nutrifield Coco/perlite4 . 6-8 per light crammed . Lollipop like a beast. Defoliate end of week 2. I am feeding Every day .. 2 gallons a day. It is a mess I wish I didn't sign up for. But because they were so over vegged and beast . The numbers are going to be insane. Sealed environment , no fresh air. 79degrees, 50% humidity. 1500 ppm co2. 5x5.5 spread . Double ended will help. ( I only have a couple I haven't switched whole room to de) .
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With co2 dont you need to be warmer than 79, no?

Seems to be working for ya tho... props man :)
 
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patrickkawi37

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Gquebed said:
With co2 dont you need to be warmer than 79, no?

Seems to be working for ya tho... props man :)
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A lot of people think that warmer is better. But I start to see an upward leaf curl and some heat stress at anything higher than 80 degrees. I have grown in the 80s before when I didn't have another option and I felt like my bag appeal wasn't as nice . I could be wrong though. But I don't believe you suffer yield at 78-79
 
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patrickkawi37

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ttystikk said:
I hear ya. I guess the DE doesn't get more umol/W @1150W, but I do clearly remember him saying the spectrum shift was beneficial and there was no sacrifice in lifetime performance. Here's the chart;
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I am using the nanolux de with the Phillips bulb. Is that chart saying that's a better reading than the gavita with the gavita bulb? my gavita looks brighter to the eye by far , it's strange .
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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patrickkawi37 said:
A lot of people think that warmer is better. But I start to see an upward leaf curl and some heat stress at anything higher than 80 degrees. I have grown in the 80s before when I didn't have another option and I felt like my bag appeal wasn't as nice . I could be wrong though. But I don't believe you suffer yield at 78-79
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You say you keep your lights pretty close to the canopy. If so, your leaf surface temperatures are likely to put you in the ideal range for good CO² takeup. It's the leaf surface temperature that's the important measure, not air temperature. If an air temp in the high seventies is what works, I'd say don't fix it.
 
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