female clone is male? WTF?

Mohican

Mohican

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You must have mixed something up! Growing and sampling this dank can result in some misadventures unless you label and track everything.

I have been gifted two males that turned out actually being females. The gifter was bummed when he found out.
 
Derick32

Derick32

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resinousflowers420 said:
it must be a ladyboy,not fully male.i dont think a fully female plant can turn fully male,regardless of how many times its cloned.
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It is in the very early stages of flower so you might be right. I've heard that the male parts develop first. I've also heard that the male parts won't develop until the end of flowering (if it turns herm). If it is herm will it produce herm seeds?
 
Derick32

Derick32

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Mohican said:
You must have mixed something up! Growing and sampling this dank can result in some misadventures unless you label and track everything.

I have been gifted two males that turned out actually being females. The gifter was bummed when he found out.
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ha ha
 
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EverythingsHazy

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Derick32 said:
Grew the mother from seed, but it is a third generation clone. Probably a bad idea.
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It should be fine that it's a clone of a clone and so on. Every "generation" should produce the same results unless it gets a virus or some other disease at some point that gets spread to the future clones. Your plant being a male is very weird. I'd be inclined to think you mixed it up somehow, but idk ywhat you did exactly, so obviously that's just a guess.

The weirdest I've experienced, is a clone looking very sativa (thin leaf blades) and the mother looking much more indica (fat leaf blades). They looked like two different plants. No idea how that happened. I thought I mixed it up for a while too, but never proved that. I'm almost sure it was the same strain's clone. Never flowered them tho, so who knows.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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EverythingsHazy said:
It should be fine that it's a clone of a clone and so on. Every "generation" should produce the same results unless it gets a virus or some other disease at some point that gets spread to the future clones. Your plant being a male is very weird. I'd be inclined to think you mixed it up somehow, but idk ywhat you did exactly, so obviously that's just a guess.

The weirdest I've experienced, is a clone looking very sativa (thin leaf blades) and the mother looking much more indica (fat leaf blades). They looked like two different plants. No idea how that happened. I thought I mixed it up for a while too, but never proved that. I'm almost sure it was the same strain's clone. Never flowered them tho, so who knows.
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i believe what you're talking about is called the genotype, as opposed to phenotype that we always hear breeders talking about, genotype is the way a strain expresses itself in a certain environment, and the reason why the same strain, despite being the same phenotype, can grow differently in two different people's gardens..
 
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EverythingsHazy

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racerboy71 said:
i believe what you're talking about is called the genotype, as opposed to phenotype that we always hear breeders talking about, genotype is the way a strain expresses itself in a certain environment, and the reason why the same strain, despite being the same phenotype, can grow differently in two different people's gardens..
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Yea, that makes sense. It's weird tho, because they were grown relatively close to each other, in the same room in the house, so the conditions weren't very different at all. One MAY have gotten some time in an open tent under led's, but not for the entire time, and still, LED's causing such a dramatic difference in gene expression is abnormal. The overall environment (humidity, temps, etc.) was pretty much the same for both, seeing as they were grown at the same time.


This is them, side by side. (Left:Mother / Right:Clone)
 
Derick32

Derick32

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EverythingsHazy said:
Yea, that makes sense. It's weird tho, because they were grown relatively close to each other, in the same room in the house, so the conditions weren't very different at all. One MAY have gotten some time in an open tent under led's, but not for the entire time, and still, LED's causing such a dramatic difference in gene expression is abnormal. The overall environment (humidity, temps, etc.) was pretty much the same for both, seeing as they were grown at the same time.


This is them, side by side. (Left:Mother / Right:Clone)
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R1b3n4

R1b3n4

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EverythingsHazy said:
Yea, that makes sense. It's weird tho, because they were grown relatively close to each other, in the same room in the house, so the conditions weren't very different at all. One MAY have gotten some time in an open tent under led's, but not for the entire time, and still, LED's causing such a dramatic difference in gene expression is abnormal. The overall environment (humidity, temps, etc.) was pretty much the same for both, seeing as they were grown at the same time.


This is them, side by side. (Left:Mother / Right:Clone)
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out of curious interest can you take a photo of the pre-flowers on the mother so we can compare them to the clone etc?
 
R1b3n4

R1b3n4

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Derick32 said:
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yup well thats def a male, id be interested in getting to the bottom of this as ive got a few KK seeds here i need to get going for a friend within a few weeks so if it seems they are hermie prone id rather not start them n just give hime stable genetics instead etc
 
Gbuddy

Gbuddy

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Its a hermie.
fem flowers will develop later on for sure.
Have you finished the motherplant? And have you found any seeds in the harvested bud?

I am growing more than 20 years and never observed a sexchange like that.
A female plant can go hermie but she can not change her sex completly.
maybe you got some strange hormones in your medium (soil, water aso) that influenced the sex of your clone.
or you simply got lables twisted and labeled wrong
 
R1b3n4

R1b3n4

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Also, doing a quick google search on KK n known hermie problems there seems to be a lot more hermie threads/info appearing than there really should be for a tested strain so at a guess its either a known hermie when released or it wasnt tested before being released etc
 
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