female clone is male? WTF?
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Diabolical666
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I been cloning the same strains for 5yrs bro
Derick32
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It is in the very early stages of flower so you might be right. I've heard that the male parts develop first. I've also heard that the male parts won't develop until the end of flowering (if it turns herm). If it is herm will it produce herm seeds?
Derick32
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ha ha
racerboy71
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that's why i was asking if you had any pix.. i've never heard of a female plant turning male, no matter how many times it was cloned..
simply_slide
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Well im stumped 
Derick32
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SPLFreak808
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Good info! Learned something new today, thanks bro
EverythingsHazy
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It should be fine that it's a clone of a clone and so on. Every "generation" should produce the same results unless it gets a virus or some other disease at some point that gets spread to the future clones. Your plant being a male is very weird. I'd be inclined to think you mixed it up somehow, but idk ywhat you did exactly, so obviously that's just a guess.
The weirdest I've experienced, is a clone looking very sativa (thin leaf blades) and the mother looking much more indica (fat leaf blades). They looked like two different plants. No idea how that happened. I thought I mixed it up for a while too, but never proved that. I'm almost sure it was the same strain's clone. Never flowered them tho, so who knows.
racerboy71
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i believe what you're talking about is called the genotype, as opposed to phenotype that we always hear breeders talking about, genotype is the way a strain expresses itself in a certain environment, and the reason why the same strain, despite being the same phenotype, can grow differently in two different people's gardens..
EverythingsHazy
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Yea, that makes sense. It's weird tho, because they were grown relatively close to each other, in the same room in the house, so the conditions weren't very different at all. One MAY have gotten some time in an open tent under led's, but not for the entire time, and still, LED's causing such a dramatic difference in gene expression is abnormal. The overall environment (humidity, temps, etc.) was pretty much the same for both, seeing as they were grown at the same time.
This is them, side by side. (Left:Mother / Right:Clone)
Derick32
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Yea, that makes sense. It's weird tho, because they were grown relatively close to each other, in the same room in the house, so the conditions weren't very different at all. One MAY have gotten some time in an open tent under led's, but not for the entire time, and still, LED's causing such a dramatic difference in gene expression is abnormal. The overall environment (humidity, temps, etc.) was pretty much the same for both, seeing as they were grown at the same time.
This is them, side by side. (Left:Mother / Right:Clone)
EverythingsHazy
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R1b3n4
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Absolutely nothing to do with it, clone it 100 times if you want it still shouldnt turn male from female
R1b3n4
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Yea, that makes sense. It's weird tho, because they were grown relatively close to each other, in the same room in the house, so the conditions weren't very different at all. One MAY have gotten some time in an open tent under led's, but not for the entire time, and still, LED's causing such a dramatic difference in gene expression is abnormal. The overall environment (humidity, temps, etc.) was pretty much the same for both, seeing as they were grown at the same time.
This is them, side by side. (Left:Mother / Right:Clone)
out of curious interest can you take a photo of the pre-flowers on the mother so we can compare them to the clone etc?
R1b3n4
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yup well thats def a male, id be interested in getting to the bottom of this as ive got a few KK seeds here i need to get going for a friend within a few weeks so if it seems they are hermie prone id rather not start them n just give hime stable genetics instead etc
Gbuddy
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Its a hermie.
fem flowers will develop later on for sure.
Have you finished the motherplant? And have you found any seeds in the harvested bud?
I am growing more than 20 years and never observed a sexchange like that.
A female plant can go hermie but she can not change her sex completly.
maybe you got some strange hormones in your medium (soil, water aso) that influenced the sex of your clone.
or you simply got lables twisted and labeled wrong
fem flowers will develop later on for sure.
Have you finished the motherplant? And have you found any seeds in the harvested bud?
I am growing more than 20 years and never observed a sexchange like that.
A female plant can go hermie but she can not change her sex completly.
maybe you got some strange hormones in your medium (soil, water aso) that influenced the sex of your clone.
or you simply got lables twisted and labeled wrong