Bring back the draft

[doublejj]

Im not calling them fools at all, im calling them better men than myself.

Personally ive always been a runner. I ran from every juvenile lock up that i possibly could have, i ran from a prison work release program, ran away from home more times than i can count... I damn sure would have ran from the draft.

 

[Rob Roy]

Since we seem to be fighting religious extremist perhaps drafting those who claim those extremists are hijacking that ideology should be drafted to reclaim their faith .

Worshipping the state is the most dangerous religion.

 

[Fogdog]

He isn't coming back. However, if found, he will have an unused 1911 and 22lr revolver on or near his body.

Jammed with a bullet put in backwards

 

[Rob Roy]

You are so stupid you don't even understand what you are saying.

Given the choice today to join the service and fight a war in the most inhospitable place on earth, or sit in a prison playing basketball and reading..... Not a hard decision for me.

Just stop. Nobody wants to hear what you think anyway.

A real choice would also include, "none of the above". A free person should not be compelled to be cannon fodder and if he or she is not inclined to be cannon fodder should not be punished.

 

[Fogdog]

A real choice would also include, "none of the above". A free person should not be compelled to be cannon fodder and if he or she is not inclined to be cannon fodder should not be punished.

The intelligence on this thread wasn't high before you showed up. Its all gone now.

So tell me Rob, what country ever in history conducted itself in a manner that fits your idea of society? Can you name any place of size, with a healthy society that grew, took care its young and defended itself?

 

[mollymcgrammar]

Jammed with a bullet put in backwards

Sir, do you find it necessary to be an ass? Let me make clear a few things...

1) im actually a pretty good shot. My stepdad was the kind of guy who kept a gun in every room. I was taught how to handle them pretty young. Im definitely not some sort of pro, but im well versed in properly handling pistols and revolvers. Not so much rifles.

2) you seem to wanna start an argument or just harrass me in general... Not sure why, but noone else seemed to find my statement so ridiculous. Perhaps you are just lonely and feel the need to harass someone to make yourself feel better?

3) i understand exactly what im saying.... The men that served in Nam have a form of courage that i don't..... What's so fucking hard about that to understand?

 

[mollymcgrammar]

Im bookmarking these videos for later my phone is not playing them at the moment

 

[Rob Roy]

The intelligence on this thread wasn't high before you showed up. Its all gone now.

So tell me Rob, what country ever in history conducted itself in a manner that fits your idea of society? Can you name any place of size, with a healthy society that grew, took care its young and defended itself?

Sorry, please continue reveling in your false dichotomous faux intellectualism.


Obviously my post was accurate, since you couldn't refute it and instead chose a diversionary and incendiary line of questioning.

No "country" held together that conscripts cannon fodder by force is free....self evident.

 

[Fogdog]

Sir, do you find it necessary to be an ass? Let me make clear a few things...

1) im actually a pretty good shot. My stepdad was the kind of guy who kept a gun in every room. I was taught how to handle them pretty young. Im definitely not some sort of pro, but im well versed in properly handling pistols and revolvers. Not so much rifles.

2) you seem to wanna start an argument or just harrass me in general... Not sure why, but noone else seemed to find my statement so ridiculous. Perhaps you are just lonely and feel the need to harass someone to make yourself feel better?

3) i understand exactly what im saying.... The men that served in Nam have a form of courage that i don't..... What's so fucking hard about that to understand?

I don't have any violent tendencies towards you, put you gun down.

I'm calling you a stupid ignorant dumbass that doesn't understand the language he's using. Nothing you've said is new. It's the same old chicken shit thing the vets have heard for 45 years. Thanks for your service but given the same choice I wouldn't have gone. What do you think the other person gets from that?

Say thanks and that's it. You can shut your pie hole, remain silent and for once, just look the fool.

 

[Fogdog]

Sorry, please continue reveling in your false dichotomous faux intellectualism.


Obviously my post was accurate, since you couldn't refute it and instead chose a diversionary and incendiary line of questioning.

No "country" held together that conscripts cannon fodder by force is free....self evident.

Name any place any time, anywhere. Can you name any place of size that fit your ideology, with a healthy society that grew, took care its young and defended itself?

 

[Rob Roy]

Name any place any time, anywhere. Can you name any place of size that fit your ideology, with a healthy society that grew, took care its young and defended itself?

Places are inanimate, they do not have ideologies. Individual people have ideologies. My idology is peaceful, yours is not, since coercion is a cornerstone of your "utopia" .

 

[Fogdog]

Places are inanimate, they do not have ideologies. Individual people have ideologies. My idology is peaceful, yours is not, since coercion is a cornerstone of your "utopia" .

Where? where is this ideology of yours realized? I keep hearing about it but it sounds delusional to me. Tell me where people live like you say they ought.

 

[mollymcgrammar]

I don't have any violent tendencies towards you, put you gun down.

I'm calling you a stupid ignorant dumbass that doesn't understand the language he's using. Nothing you've said is new. It's the same old chicken shit thing the vets have heard for 45 years. Thanks for your service but given the same choice I wouldn't have gone. What do you think the other person gets from that?

Say thanks and that's it. You can shut your pie hole, remain silent and for once, just look the fool.

My gun comment was because you made a claim that i probably couldn't load a gun. Im not a violent guy. And yes, vets probably heard what i said alot, but its still true.

Did you serve in the military?

I think it says alot for someone to admit that they wouldn't posess the courage to do what they did.

Anywho, this thread is quickly becoming a fucking joke.

Im gunna unwatch it, maybe ill check tomorrow and see if anything intelligent was said.

 

[doublejj]

I was 19 & green.....

 

[Rob Roy]

Where? where is this ideology of yours realized? I keep hearing about it but it sounds delusional to me. Tell me where people live like you say they ought.

Are you saying you consider an ideology based in coercion as superior to one based in voluntary and peaceful human interactions?


Also, because something may not commonly occur has no bearing on it's legitimacy or "goodness" as an idea.

 

[Fogdog]

Are you saying you consider an ideology based in coercion as superior to one based in voluntary and peaceful human interactions?


Also, because something may not commonly occur has no bearing on it's legitimacy or "goodness" as an idea.

There was a time when people argued over how many faeries could fit on the head of a pin. You sound just as unhinged. I don't understand your theology and am looking for an example where it is realized. Can you tell me where your ideas are realized?

 

[Fogdog]

My gun comment was because you made a claim that i probably couldn't load a gun. Im not a violent guy. And yes, vets probably heard what i said alot, but its still true.

Did you serve in the military?

I think it says alot for someone to admit that they wouldn't posess the courage to do what they did.

Anywho, this thread is quickly becoming a fucking joke.

Im gunna unwatch it, maybe ill check tomorrow and see if anything intelligent was said.

All right, go away for now and think.
I did not serve. I was in school when doublej was fighting for his and the lives of those around him. I'm one of the dumbasses that did not welcome him back. And I regret this.

So, from one dumbass to another, let me show you how this is done.

Thanks for your service, @doublejj ... Respect

Then listen if he wants to talk about it, which he most generously has. Only offer your thoughts if asked.

 

[Rob Roy]

There was a time when people argued over how many faeries could fit on the head of a pin. You sound just as unhinged. I don't understand your theology and am looking for an example where it is realized. Can you tell me where your ideas are realized?

What in particular is "unhinged" about favoring peaceful and voluntary human interactions over ones that systemically
include coercion ?

 

[nitro harley]

There was a time when people argued over how many faeries could fit on the head of a pin. You sound just as unhinged. I don't understand your theology and am looking for an example where it is realized. Can you tell me where your ideas are realized?

I don't know why your head is in the toilet . There has got to be a better method for drinking democratic koolaid. lol

 

[Fogdog]

What in particular is "unhinged" about favoring peaceful and voluntary human interactions over ones that systemically
include coercion ?

I've heard over and over your diatribe. Where do people live the way you say they ought? I'm looking for an example. Can you provide one.