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MjMama

MjMama

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wilddog said:
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Notice the double ridges on some of this leaf? It's something I'm seeing a lot of this year on all my strains, and I don't recall ever seeing it before. Not all the leafs have this. Just the most mature ones. Anyone.....
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My first thought is low humidity. What's your general location? If you google "low humidity cannabis" you will see a lot of leaves with heavy ridging like that. It could be part or this bad drought we're having here.
 
MjMama

MjMama

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I'm cutting my spraying routine back to once a week unless I start seeing a need to spray more. I have half a bottle of Spinosad and a bottle of NukeEm to get me through flowering. If those run out I will get a bottle of BT since bud worms are the main concern in flower.

The Nuke Em says it kills PM and mold as well so I figured Id save that until the buds start getting bigger. Use up the spino now and use NukeEm when it can help fight mold later.
 
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I'm also going to make some sort of a tea today. Probably just kelp and guano again. Do some trimming under the plants and clean up any yellow leaves. Maintenance like that goes a long way in preventing pests and mold. Keep things clean and the air flowing under the canopy.
 
Joedank

Joedank

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MjMama said:
My first thought is low humidity. What's your general location? If you google "low humidity cannabis" you will see a lot of leaves with heavy ridging like that. It could be part or this bad drought we're having here.
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yea low humidity is a great call . !
it begins a "cascade effect " of concentration of salts , and eventually wilting in bad cases ... big RH swings this year . probly no more than "normal" if we lived more than 100 years ....lol
 
BigYellowCob

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MjMama said:
Definitely the bud worms. You will see pure white butterflies buzzing around during the day and those are the ones I have issues with. Maybe moths at night too but I see the white butterflies all the time in this area. They leave small translucent yellow/white eggs on the leaves and buds so if you can keep an eye out for them and destroy them before they hatch it helps a lot.

If you see any spot that looks like the pistils have been munched on, or if there is any damage to the buds at all. If a sugar leaf starts dying or you see a patch of mold, peak inside the bud to check for worms. They will be eating away inside the bud and you won't even know they are there until they have fucked up an entire top and eaten their way out. It's brutal. I would spray Spinosad and or BT weekly. The BT is special for budworms. Also look for bug poop in the buds and on the leaves. Find the poop and you can track the worms down quick.


In my experience with how dry it is here, spraying weekly won't cause mold, it's the worms that cause mold. Once it gets humid late in flower and the rains come, anywhere a worm was will start to mold up from the bacteria in their poop and from the damage they did to the plant. So basically spraying weekly will lower your risk of mold.
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Awesome, thanks for the great info. It's funny you mention the white butterflies, since I just chased one of them out of my vegetable garden yesterday. I have some spinosad left from a thrip issue in my indoor grow, but I'll have to swing by Green Acres and grab some BT this week too. I should probably spray my tomatoes and peppers too, to get rid of the damn tomato hornworms that show up late summer every year. Those things are nasty, I just picked a huge one off a bell pepper plant this morning.
Thanks again for sharing the knowledge!

BYC
 
ruby fruit

ruby fruit

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MjMama said:
I'm also going to make some sort of a tea today. Probably just kelp and guano again. Do some trimming under the plants and clean up any yellow leaves. Maintenance like that goes a long way in preventing pests and mold. Keep things clean and the air flowing under the canopy.
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Yellow leaves attract insects and bugs good call
 
wilddog

wilddog

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MjMama said:
My first thought is low humidity. What's your general location? If you google "low humidity cannabis" you will see a lot of leaves with heavy ridging like that. It could be part or this bad drought we're having here.
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I'm in NewEngland it's very humid and water is not a issue, I don't consider this phenomenon a problem. I run a tight ship on my grow, all soil is tested multiple times throughout the year. The kush plants that the picture of this leaf came from are running on a different recipe then the other varietys I have. Here is another photo of a different variety. 20150820_074631.jpg
 
wilddog

wilddog

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MjMama said:
I'm cutting my spraying routine back to once a week unless I start seeing a need to spray more. I have half a bottle of Spinosad and a bottle of NukeEm to get me through flowering. If those run out I will get a bottle of BT since bud worms are the main concern in flower.

The Nuke Em says it kills PM and mold as well so I figured Id save that until the buds start getting bigger. Use up the spino now and use NukeEm when it can help fight mold later.
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That Nuke Em is a good idea, I've never had to use it but it's good to have around.

I have to say, I'm well into my 40s and have been around this all my life, but I never have seen some of the colors that are in your leafs on your profile picture before. Is that a strain thing or do you think it's a suger thing? I'm curious.
 
MjMama

MjMama

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wilddog said:
That Nuke Em is a good idea, I've never had to use it but it's good to have around.

I have to say, I'm well into my 40s and have been around this all my life, but I never have seen some of the colors that are in your leafs on your profile picture before. Is that a strain thing or do you think it's a suger thing? I'm curious.
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It's the strain. Alien OG. It's the only strain Ive ever had with such a wide variety of colors.
 
wilddog

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So we have this problem happening to one plant out of all of them that somthing is going on with all the soil is the same on all of them they are all testing right were we want them. But one side of this plant is dying while the rest of it is thriving. There are no bugs on it, and it's all organic. We have our theorys.20150821_090926.jpg
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But would be interested to here your opinion.
 
MjMama

MjMama

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wilddog said:
So we have this problem happening to one plant out of all of them that somthing is going on with all the soil is the same on all of them they are all testing right were we want them. But one side of this plant is dying while the rest of it is thriving. There are no bugs on it, and it's all organic. We have our theorys.View attachment 3483506
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But would be interested to here your opinion.
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How does the stalk look? No cracks, splits, or blistery looking spots? My friend had a huge plant die out of nowhere last season and he came to the conclusion that it was some type of fungus that attacked the plant from the bottom up. I forget the name but it was due to a soil rich in organic matter that was watered too heavily all season. He had some split that formed on the stalk where the fungus was invading.
 
wilddog

wilddog

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MjMama said:
How does the stalk look? No cracks, splits, or blistery looking spots? My friend had a huge plant die out of nowhere last season and he came to the conclusion that it was some type of fungus that attacked the plant from the bottom up. I forget the name but it was due to a soil rich in organic matter that was watered too heavily all season. He had some split that formed on the stalk where the fungus was invading.
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MjMama said:
How does the stalk look? No cracks, splits, or blistery looking spots? My friend had a huge plant die out of nowhere last season and he came to the conclusion that it was some type of fungus that attacked the plant from the bottom up. I forget the name but it was due to a soil rich in organic matter that was watered too heavily all season. He had some split that formed on the stalk where the fungus was invading.
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The stock looks good but I think your right in a sence but I'm thinking something like that but in the roots....... maybe, it's just weird. If I didn't think the soil was so mixed up I would say it was being poisoned by somthing to strong. It's all organic and they get healthy doses of tea on a regular basis.
 
Joedank

Joedank

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wilddog said:
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The stock looks good but I think your right in a sence but I'm thinking something like that but in the roots....... maybe, it's just weird. If I didn't think the soil was so mixed up I would say it was being poisoned by somthing to strong. It's all organic and they get healthy doses of tea on a regular basis.
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a borer near the base of that branch .
if not man is it presenting as "N" toxicity. the stem nemetoads and root nemetoads both cause wilting progressively till death...hope you figure it out ...
 
wilddog

wilddog

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The bad areas have been cut out only to have it spread to the next. We thought it was a N thing to, but how it was effecting the plant was throwing me off a bit, so I said the same Borer. So we are a looking. It's the only Diesel we have.
 
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