Mechanization and the Future

heckler73

heckler73

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ChesusRice said:
The pool of intelligent,experienced guys like me has exceeded the demands of the trade. When supply exceeds demand what happens to price?
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That is the consequence of the productivity gains. So, how much longer before the wage-floor is reached from your perspective?
 
Balzac89

Balzac89

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I have a friend who was employed in a union factory on an automated lathe. All he did was load the blanks, he didn't know shit about dick.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ttystikk said:
Spoken like someone who doesn't know shit about artificial intelligence; they're already selling robot maids that do multiple tasks from personal device to housework.
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Yes, but are their boobs lifelike and do they come in a variety of shapes and sizes?
 
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ChesusRice

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Balzac89 said:
I have a friend who was employed in a union factory on an automated lathe. All he did was load the blanks, he didn't know shit about dick.
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And that is where we are headed. I have seen the future and it looks dim. The pond it's drying up and lots of fish are fighting for the last water
 
londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
Yes, but are their boobs lifelike and do they come in a variety of shapes and sizes?
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Man can you get you mind out the gutter for a second.
I tell you, the fact that you had to see your parents having sex at such a young age has really fucked your mind
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Doer said:
Unless the 'bot was 'grammed to be a rural country cop with a chip on it's shoulder.

Garbage in? Garbage out. GIGO
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This is very, very true- and just might yet be the end of the human race. We'll be eliminated accidentally because of a programming glitch.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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londonfog said:
Man can you get you mind out the gutter for a second.
I tell you, the fact that you had to see your parents having sex at such a young age has really fucked your mind
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If the boobs you have seen hang all the way into the gutter, I suggest you find slimmer women.

How much do you attribute your taking hot soapy showers with other boys after your football practices with your aversion to the female form ? I don't mind that you like guys, but lots of former male athletes have come out the closet. Do you have something you want to share with us? Does your wife know?
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Rob Roy said:
If the boobs you have seen hang all the way into the gutter, I suggest you find slimmer women.

How much do you attribute your taking hot soapy showers with other boys after your football practices with your aversion to the female form ? I don't mind that you like guys, but lots of former male athletes have come out the closet. Do you have something you want to share with us? Does your wife know?
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you talk like a man who actually does not get laid often.
 
heckler73

heckler73

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ChesusRice said:
And that is where we are headed. I have seen the future and it looks dim. The pond it's drying up and lots of fish are fighting for the last water
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The irony is this situation was supposed to be a "beneficial" goal of capitalism. We'd all be able to live George Jetson lives, needing little more for survival than pushing buttons for a grueling 4 hours a day, 3 days a week.
However, what are the other variables in this system of equations? The state of other economies plays a role.

Western economies had the time to paint themselves into corners, but the emerging economies (EE) have yet to reach equivalent plateaus, and by this mechanism they keep the flows imbalanced (e.g. China), sustaining the orthodoxy. Yet, they are not going to experience the leisurely pace of obsolescence we've entertained. Their moves toward the "Crisis of Capitalism" will be swift, as we are already seeing in their attempt to manage the equity market. Compounding the issue is the population density. As a Hua-yi colleague of mine noted, anything you can conceive of happening in a Western economy becomes augmented by an order of magnitude in China. That goes for success and failures. Changes are exponentially rapid as a relative consequence.

When the EEs reach their plateaus respectively, the globe will need to address a critical level of instability in capitalist affairs. Depending on the degree of enlightenment amongst the citizenry and power-brokers, this will manifest in either War or Philosophy. Until then, there is only the grind into perpetual drudgery or superfluous servitude for the median and those within arm's reach. To which, I try to spend time on considering the philosophical shift of paradigms, questioning how the transition itself can occur with the least pain. How can developed civilization move from capitalism into a more broadly beneficial level of social organization with equanimity when faced by a playing field that looks like the following?


The Haves and Have Yachts are not going to let their positions slip without great intellectual struggle, at the least. Stasis is comfortable as far as they are concerned.
 
Balzac89

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The biggest growing sectors are healthcare and human services. All these baby boomers are aging and need care.

With the market going to shit today, the job market might get even worse if thats possible
 
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ChesusRice

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Balzac89 said:
The biggest growing sectors are healthcare and human services. All these baby boomers are aging and need care.

With the market going to shit today, the job market might get even worse if thats possible
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Been there done that. Worked in a medical lab and out on the road doing phlebotomy and EKGs I don't have the temperament for it
 
TheHermit

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heckler73 said:
I was watching Fareed Zakaria this morning, and he opened the show with a discussion about "middle class stagnation" and how mechanization/digitization has brought this problem upon us. In particular he referenced this new book that came out a few days ago. "The Second Machine Age" by Brynjolfsson and McAfee. I just bought the E-book and am starting to read it, but thought I'd pass the info on. It looks like a good analysis on the surface.
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Have you ever read anything by Jeremy Rifkin? His books deal with a lot of the same subject matter. I read his book The End of Work about fifteen years ago in college. It dealt with a lot of the stuff that is going on today. He has a new one out called the Zero Marginal Cost Society. I haven't read it yet. It is somewhere between amazon and my house.
http://www.amazon.com/Zero-Marginal-Cost-Society-Collaborative/dp/1137278463/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_y/181-1963706-1021005
 
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