Should I just flush?

Ifarted420

Ifarted420

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Hey guys, I've got two plants here. One is c99 from female seeds and one is golden cobra from moxie seeds

Anyhow! I have been having problems with my plants since the beginning of flowering, I switched to bloom nutes about a week and a half in, I have never fed either of them more than half strength nutes which (BTW I'm using sensi a & b) my pH after a diluted half strength mix is usually at about 6.2 or 6.4 however when I test runoff (usually the first half cup that comes out or the last its pretty low probably around 5.6) I know this is very common i read about it all the time (especially with FFOF, hey that's kinda funny because that's exactly what I'm usin . I also have some Dr earth pot of gold and happy frog mixed in. LAST WEEK I put about 2 tablespoons per gallon of LIME on top of my soil as a.dress. I watered with a 1/4 mix at 6.5 . My main question is should I flush. My plants are yellowing, especially GC she's been lime green for a while. I think it's just lockou . Let me know what you guys thin . It looks to me like in the past week GC has produced very little bud mass and c99 did better but is seeming to slow down as wel . I will post pics give me one second.
 
Final Phase

Final Phase

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You didn't mention how long the plants have been flowering. If it's a sativa strain it could be a long time away from maturity.
From what I can make out all the plants that are up now have a long way to go - like 3 or more weeks at least.

Go by the way the trichomes look - Wait till they are milky or cloudy with at least some that have turned amber. Longer time will get let the thc mature more.

Some advise that you should not flush. Some advise that you should flush.

I flush because my herb tasted like hell until I started flushing - some know how to finish a plant without flushing and get great taste. Just gotta know how to do it!
 
weedenhanced

weedenhanced

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Ifarted420 said:
Plant with bigger nugs is C99. Note-golden cobra nugs are possibly less than half the size of the c99 nugs so something is obviously not right.
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They look hungry and over watered or to much heat u r very early in flower
Diff strains take diff amount of time of course they r different
 
Ifarted420

Ifarted420

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Its actually the 4 week mark since flip, pistils started popping out vigorously after one week surprisingly. Plants were around 30-32 days when I flipped to 12/12. Female seeds C99 I've heard is best between day 50 and 60. I was told by an actual moxie grower on instagram that the GC likes to go 9 or 10 weeks but you can always take it at 8, this might be a crazy question, but do plants that have longer flowering times take more time to produce buds? Cause that would make sense as to why GC is budding so slow. I've only ever grown identical strains before (roughly same pheno's as well, so I'm used to plants looking almost the same)

Does she really look underfed? I feed her every other water or every 3 water. Usually upping the dose to 75% strength when it had been a while since feedings. But she gets watered about every 4 days. They're defiantly not over watered , if anything they are under watered. Not heat, temps are at about 77 and humidity Is at 45% 12 inches away from air cooled hood

I really happened to think it was lockout, although I put down lime a week ago, it was pelletized so that will take time. So I went ahead and did a small flush, did about 15 gallons of pure water first 10 pH of 7 last 5 were around 6.5. Added 1/4 strength nutes at the end with some epsom salt and some molasses, small amounts of each.
 
ryan s

ryan s

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yup. I grow hydro but I dabbled in soil. To me it just looks underwatered, nutes are good. The root tips look burnt so I wouldn't say they are underfed. Maybe once overfed but now at a good level. I measure my ppm's... that makes it easier to diagnose this stuff. lower leaves yellowing is normal and a good sign i guess. Yellowing lower leaves is normal in the last 2-3 weeks of flower.

however i think you would have been better to have let it veg about twice as long. i guess it depends on your space because those look like they could be pretty good yielders. just my opinion
 
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polishpollack

polishpollack

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Why are you giving additional fert when you're using ffof and happy frog and some dr. earth, if I read this right? did you know that these soils already have fert in them and by adding more, which it looks like you've done way, way too much of, you're over doing it? The yellowing isn't normal until the plants start to die naturally which is several weeks into flower, like 7-8 or more. You've been reading or listening to bad info if you feel you need to fert so much. why half strength every other water? realize that the stuff builds up in the soil. this is a great example of how not to fert. the stores carry all kinds of products you can spend your money on, but is it really necessary? Nope. Not with good soil. Flush and hope they survive until harvest.
 
weedenhanced

weedenhanced

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polishpollack said:
Why are you giving additional fert when you're using ffof and happy frog and some dr. earth, if I read this right? did you know that these soils already have fert in them and by adding more, which it looks like you've done way, way too much of, you're over doing it? The yellowing isn't normal until the plants start to die naturally which is several weeks into flower, like 7-8 or more. You've been reading or listening to bad info if you feel you need to fert so much. why half strength every other water? realize that the stuff builds up in the soil. this is a great example of how not to fert. the stores carry all kinds of products you can spend your money on, but is it really necessary? Nope. Not with good soil. Flush and hope they survive until harvest.
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The yellowing is undergrowth and it dies off allways when it get blocked from light
Even in veg u will get leaves dieing off
It's a sign of a nitrogen defiency it the newest leaves that need the nitrogen the most sucking the life outa the older leaves the light blocked leaves
That the plant doesn't need to photosynthesis
Why I said ur plants r hungry ur plants need a lot more nitrogen during flower and u can see 100% they r not getting enough
 
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weedenhanced

weedenhanced

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Ifarted420 said:
Hey guys, I've got two plants here. One is c99 from female seeds and one is golden cobra from moxie seeds

Anyhow! I have been having problems with my plants since the beginning of flowering, I switched to bloom nutes about a week and a half in, I have never fed either of them more than half strength nutes which (BTW I'm using sensi a & b) my pH after a diluted half strength mix is usually at about 6.2 or 6.4 however when I test runoff (usually the first half cup that comes out or the last its pretty low probably around 5.6) I know this is very common i read about it all the time (especially with FFOF, hey that's kinda funny because that's exactly what I'm usin . I also have some Dr earth pot of gold and happy frog mixed in. LAST WEEK I put about 2 tablespoons per gallon of LIME on top of my soil as a.dress. I watered with a 1/4 mix at 6.5 . My main question is should I flush. My plants are yellowing, especially GC she's been lime green for a while. I think it's just lockou . Let me know what you guys thin . It looks to me like in the past week GC has produced very little bud mass and c99 did better but is seeming to slow down as wel . I will post pics give me one second.
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Dude u can listen to these others but u need to feed ur plants I can see a massive nitrogen defiency and once u get one defiency it will block other nutrients from the plant cause u need certain nutrients for ur plant to uptake other nutrients
Seriously u only give ur plants nutrients every 3rd feed and u only feed once every 4 days that's 12 days between feeds fck
I feed my plants 100% recommend str not aggressive str but normal strength every feed in soil or perlite
U say u got some nuts in ur soil well i bet there all used up ur plant is eating it's self man do not flush and starve it more feed it
image.jpg They look healthy ?
 
weedenhanced

weedenhanced

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polishpollack said:
Why are you giving additional fert when you're using ffof and happy frog and some dr. earth, if I read this right? did you know that these soils already have fert in them and by adding more, which it looks like you've done way, way too much of, you're over doing it? The yellowing isn't normal until the plants start to die naturally which is several weeks into flower, like 7-8 or more. You've been reading or listening to bad info if you feel you need to fert so much. why half strength every other water? realize that the stuff builds up in the soil. this is a great example of how not to fert. the stores carry all kinds of products you can spend your money on, but is it really necessary? Nope. Not with good soil. Flush and hope they survive until harvest.
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If he flushed u noob his plants will have no food u see 100% percent there hungry u call ur self a grower and can't spot a hungry plant
 
polishpollack

polishpollack

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he has green leaves with leaf tip burn, indicating over fert. the soil he used might be enough by itself for the entire duration of the grow. adding more fert will be a mistake. but go ahead and do so, and watch your problem get worse.
 
hantastic1

hantastic1

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polishpollack said:
he has green leaves with leaf tip burn, indicating over fert. the soil he used might be enough by itself for the entire duration of the grow. adding more fert will be a mistake. but go ahead and do so, and watch your problem get worse.
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the leaves are lacking N all around. if u listen that that guy and flush, you will have wispy ass nugs. give it some nutes and watch it get green
 
polishpollack

polishpollack

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you guys are focused on the fert he is giving. What you're missing is the fact that those soils he mixed together already had fert in them from the factory. Leaves can go yellow form over fert similar to under fert. the grower states he's been giving additional fert and I think that's the problem. but it will be interesting to see what the grower does and what happens.
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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weedenhanced said:
If he flushed u noob his plants will have no food u see 100% percent there hungry u call ur self a grower and can't spot a hungry plant
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don't bust balls man, I don't think it needs food either, with the soil mix he has, and feeding every other or every third watering? It'd be really unlikely
My guess is that his soil is thoroughly jacked from all the nutrients in it, as well as the lime (2 tablespoons?!)
the color indicates a nitrogen def, yes, but the clawing of the leaves, and overall "look" of the plant says otherwise, i'd bet money it's not lack of food.
 
weedenhanced

weedenhanced

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polishpollack said:
you guys are focused on the fert he is giving. What you're missing is the fact that those soils he mixed together already had fert in them from the factory. Leaves can go yellow form over fert similar to under fert. the grower states he's been giving additional fert and I think that's the problem. but it will be interesting to see what the grower does and what happens.
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n def starts at bottom shut the fck up noob
 
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