3 x 600w - 8 x 8 x 6ft DWC Grow - How many plants?
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HydroUK
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Sorry I slightly mislead the post there, the room is 8 x 8 but I'm gonna take a sliver of that for veg & some pruning/tending space so say we're left with something closer to 5x6 or 6x6?
Serious nub territory here, but how do I change the post heading lmao?
Thanks for all your help man, you're whizzing round after me answering all this bs.
HydroUK
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And how many plants in said area? I'm pretty set on 1.5-2lb's+ so I'm presuming less plants and LST?
I see loads of people smashing over the 2lb mark in this kind of area, yet tons of others claiming it's impossible... My first grow was Arjan's Haze & I got about 3-4oz per plant with a 600w in like a meter or two squared. Can this be done with Indica as well?
What can I expect from various different types of grows & what in your opinion would yield the most?
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HydroUK
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Sounds good, I'll use that as my goal. Slightly off topic but is documenting my grow on here bait? I see most of the people doing it are from CA/CO and other MM states. I always document them for myself but it would be great to get some tips along the way, as well as generally be apart of the forum a bit more.
Also SCROG or nah?
Thanks again broski.
skunkd0c
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its fine to document your grow here imo, but dont tell your facebook friendz LOL
all methods have advantages and disadvantages, it would be easier to organize it with lots of little plants and get a yield in a faster time
because little plants can fill the space in a more organised shape like a little tiny christmas tree
but unless you can get some nice cuttings that would mean lots of seeds and that is unpredictable
big plants need to be trained/pruned or controlled in some way as the branches will not all grow in the most organised way
to fill the space or receive the light
little plants are easier to harm/kill, if you do something wrong to a little plant or it gets sick or loses a few leaves
it can have a more dramatic effect on its health, big plants are more robust, its harder to kill them imo
as you are a newb, i would suggest trying to grow a few big ones successfully before you go all out crazy
it would be easier to grow plants that naturally get big without too much veg time
skunkd0c
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if you set up a big grow and fuck it up, and harvest half dead burnt plants full of bugs in a 6x6
you will only yield the same amount as a succsesful healthy grow would yield in a 2x2 lol
so don't try to run before you can walk, growing lots of them hoping some will "survive is not a good strategy imo
its best to start small, grow a few successfully then move onto the the bigger grows once you know how to keep them healthy from start to finish
peace
you will only yield the same amount as a succsesful healthy grow would yield in a 2x2 lol
so don't try to run before you can walk, growing lots of them hoping some will "survive is not a good strategy imo
its best to start small, grow a few successfully then move onto the the bigger grows once you know how to keep them healthy from start to finish
peace
HydroUK
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Awesome, thanks for the info.
Although I seem a bit rusty and am asking all these questions I've grown 2 lots of really nice bud (3-4 plants) and one that was half decent (my first 2 plants), so I'm gonna take a small jump this time and go with what you've said (larger plants, probably 4-6). I'm fairly confident I'll get a decent yield. My worst mistake were mild nutrient burns that I managed to flush out within 2-5 days, so hopefully that will give me a leg to stand on. On that note, do you know of any good places to find the right nutrients on this site, or have any personal favs?
Gonna hit the sack man, peace & no doubt speak soon.
Cpappa27
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I say more plants less veg time so you can pull off your goal weight without having to wait all that extra time to veg out those trees.
hotrodharley
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I agree with cpappa - more lights, less wattage per light. The whole key to lighting is coverage of the canopy. Better heat control, lower electricity bills and the yield will still be good.
If room size allows use two Cooltubes end-to-end. 3 pairs side by side. 400-watters using Cooltubes and you will way more than enough canopy light coverage. I have used fluorescent fixtures standing on end around the room. Cheap to run comparatively. Buy them used at used building material places or building supply recyclers like Habitat for Humanity. Side bud production is definitely increased using them and keep them close. And bulbs with more red designed for plant growth are available.
If room size allows use two Cooltubes end-to-end. 3 pairs side by side. 400-watters using Cooltubes and you will way more than enough canopy light coverage. I have used fluorescent fixtures standing on end around the room. Cheap to run comparatively. Buy them used at used building material places or building supply recyclers like Habitat for Humanity. Side bud production is definitely increased using them and keep them close. And bulbs with more red designed for plant growth are available.
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Carolina Dream'n
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4 315w CMH.
HydroUK
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Perfect. The side bud production lamps were actually on my list of things to get, however I'm working with a £1,000-1500 monitary budget & a 3,000 w power allowance so I wanted to check that I'm right in thinking the ballasts power the cool tubes with no extra power consumption? If so that's perfect.
I also hear cool tubes can get as close as 6-8 inches away from the colas? If that's true does that mean more direct light or should I still keep them at 12-18 to spread the light out?
Lights w/ cool tubes 3 x 400 or 3 x 600 - 1200-1800w
Heater - 750-1500w
Fans - 50-100w
Dehumidifier - 60w
So I'm at roughly 2k with 400 watt lights & about 3.3k with 600w lamps (I'd only expand on your advice if I decide to widen the grow by a foot or two, in that case I'd probably go for 600).
hotrodharley
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At 5' X 6' I would go with just 4 plants myself. Much bigger and tighter buds and better quality because of overall light coverage. Cooltubes are the way to go if possible so they can be kept closer. KEEP AIR MOVING OVER THE TOPS! Mirrors do not always reflect 100% of light striking them. Polarized glass etc can affect the bounce back light. However anything helps! A SCROG or two maybe? Others can inform you better there.
HydroUK
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3 x 400w lights, or four for 5 x 6? Supposing I went for something bigger like 6 x 7 or 6 x 8?
Really appreciate your insight!
hotrodharley
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1 HPS running horizontally should cover two plants.Figure on that.For really good quality bud with any yield. Others may have different experiences. Bulb vertical under a reflective shade - 1 plant. Run 3 400-watts before you run 3 600-watts. That's a 600 watt difference in heat and cheaper to run. Again others may feel differently but I go for quality over yield while trying to get the most weight possible. I would rather have 2 ounces of killer grade rather than 4 ounces of average.
hotrodharley
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The cooler temps, especially during the second half of flowering, make for much tighter buds.
HydroUK
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Ok brilliant. Last thing... Do I need reflective covers for the cool tube lamps? I see a lot of people using them without.
I'm planning on ordering 3 of these.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HZKRB3W?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A1E8PJBD55PDAR
the reflectors are helpful however bend the fins exactly horizontal so that all light goes down for widest spread depending on your space. I have those exact tubes running 600's in my setup and if you run them sealed from an intake to exhaust I can get them within 8 inches of my colas no problem(450 cfm fan on two 6 inch tubes).