Crisis in Hungary Refugees, something I noticed that's disturbing

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ChesusRice

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CNN is in full blown propaganda mode. Trying to show the humanitarian crisis of Iraqis and Syrians walking to the border of western Europe. They keep talking about the women children and elderly. But mostly what I am seeing in the videos is Military age Men.

Why not send the women children and elderly ahead and go back and fight for your homeland?

 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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ChesusRice said:
CNN is in full blown propaganda mode. Trying to show the humanitarian crisis of Iraqis and Syrians walking to the border of western Europe. They keep talking about the women children and elderly. But mostly what I am seeing in the videos is Military age Men.

Why not send the women children and elderly ahead and go back and fight for your homeland?

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They don't give a fuck, loads of them quoted on video (on the live news) saying "Syria is gone, we will never go back to Syria".

They're also breaking EU asylum law by not claiming asylum in the first safe country they arrive in.

It's a fucking mess, yes, refugees have a right to flee their countries for a variety of reasons but it's a sea of humanity that will not stop.

If every economic migrant in Africa/the Middle East thinks "Europe has open borders".

But on the topic, I think the US should take half of them.

Yous wanted to bomb Assad, yous wanted to arm the "moderate" Syrian rebels (despite Biden admitting later that there is no moderate Syrian rebels) and ISIS is a direct response to US military action in the Middle East.
 
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ChesusRice

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Harrekin said:
They don't give a fuck, loads of them quoted on video (on the live news) saying "Syria is gone, we will never go back to Syria".

They're also breaking EU asylum law by not claiming asylum in the first safe country they arrive in.

It's a fucking mess, yes, refugees have a right to flee their countries for a variety of reasons but it's a sea of humanity that will not stop.

If every economic migrant in Africa/the Middle East thinks "Europe has open borders".

But on the topic, I think the US should take half of them.

Yous wanted to bomb Assad, yous wanted to arm the "moderate" Syrian rebels (despite Biden admitting later that there is no moderate Syrian rebels) and ISIS is a direct response to US military action in the Middle East.
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We agreed to take some of them
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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Could all stop if the US and allies stopped supporting ISIS. Won't hear the media talking about that little fact.

It's hilarious, there's a front page story on the early August Macleans magazine talking about how the kurds are the only group successfully fighting against ISIS and then less than a week later there's a story about our friend Turkey bombing the Kurds lol.

Meanwhile they're buying oil from ISIS. And they're our allies.

It's a deliberately created mess.
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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ChesusRice said:
Doubtful. However it was the only result possible after overthrowing Hussein. You could see it coming back in 2001
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Western foreign policy since WW1 has been to keep the Middle East a complete mess. The Ottoman empire reformed would be a threat. So every single action taken is done to create more mess. And it's really quite apparent in every single historical fact about the region. Any platitude about trying to make the region a better place is clearly complete bullshit.

Unless you want to believe all the people responsible for this policy are just too fucking dumb to understand the impacts. Despite being educated almost completely at the most prestigious schools in the world that generally only accept top students.
 
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ChesusRice

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OGEvilgenius said:
Western foreign policy since WW1 has been to keep the Middle East a complete mess. The Ottoman empire reformed would be a threat. So every single action taken is done to create more mess. And it's really quite apparent in every single historical fact about the region. Any platitude about trying to make the region a better place is clearly complete bullshit.

Unless you want to believe all the people responsible for this policy are just too fucking dumb to understand the impacts. Despite being educated almost completely at the most prestigious schools in the world that generally only accept top students.
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The opposite. The Neo Cons wanted us to establish a permanent presense there and never leave. Public Opinion wouldn't allow it. The Bush administration then hoped we would go and keep coming up with reasons to stay.
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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ChesusRice said:
The opposite. The Neo Cons wanted us to establish a permanent presense there and never leave. Public Opinion wouldn't allow it. The Bush administration then hoped we would go and keep coming up with reasons to stay.
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Those bases are used to do nothing but create instability. Time and time again. It's hardly a unified regional power if you have your military scattered all over the region and governments, most of which received your endorsement at some point, are at each others throats.
 
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ChesusRice

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OGEvilgenius said:
Those bases are used to do nothing but create instability. Time and time again. It's hardly a unified regional power if you have your military scattered all over the region and governments, most of which received your endorsement at some point, are at each others throats.
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What bases?
The US is out of Iraq as a permanent presence.
The actual goal from the beginning was to have permanent bases there and dominate the region. That didn't happen.
 
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