Loose vs Lose

What lexical or grammatical errors bother you?

  • Oh, I've got a couple

    Votes: 10 23.8%

  • None, becasue I'm not an uptight asshole!

    Votes: 7 16.7%

  • Fuck you, Tyler! Go shove a book up your ass...

    Votes: 10 23.8%

  • A little bit of the ol' shit and stomp for me

    Votes: 3 7.1%

  • Oh yeah? Then why are you a 'looser'?

    Votes: 4 9.5%

  • Thanks for playing a part in saving our beloved language. You rock!

    Votes: 12 28.6%

  • Pinworm

    Votes: 17 40.5%
  • Total voters
    42
sunny747

sunny747

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All great examples.. A few of them I have even misused myself.. I actually have to look up affect and effect every time I use either :)

On here I constantly see "looking for advise" rather than advice.

I thought this was a pretty funny image.

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tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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Gary Goodson said:
I've had idiots look at me funny when I use "converse" like you're supposed to. Instead of me saying "I was conversating with this guy" like a dumbass would.
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I really think that people think that is an actual word, which makes me want to slap them even harder ;)
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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sunny747 said:
All great examples.. A few of them I have even misused myself.. I actually have to look up affect and effect every time I use either :)

On here I constantly see "looking for advise" rather than advice.

I thought this was a pretty funny image.

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It's cool that you take the effort to look it up when unsure, shows you care. That's all I'm looking for, just a little bit of caring and effort. I am glad to help society with this by smacking them until they care ;)
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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tyler.durden said:
I really think that people think that is an actual word, which makes me want to slap them even harder ;)
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Ummmm (conversate) is similar to moneys and administrate. It may seem odd and unnecessary but definitions are slightly different as are connotation and implied meaning

Yes these are all real words.
So is monies
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Yea and people that use yoghurt and colour instead of yogurt and color.
Rhum and rum too.
Other countries trying use my language. The ignorant fucks

Whomever smelled it dell'd it?
 
tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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qwizoking said:
Ummmm (conversate) is similar to moneys and administrate. It may seem odd and unnecessary but definitions are slightly different as are connotation and implied meaning

Yes these are all real words.
So is monies
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Conversate is a back-formation, and is currently a non-standard word. Which means it is not a real word. They say some non-standard words can actually become real words... fucking puke. That basically means that if idiots use it enough, we'll just go ahead and accommodate them. I guess it is sometimes too much to ask that people take the effort to bend to a language, so instead we'll bastardize words to cater to the lowest common denominator. Like what recently happened to the word literally, which was misused so much that it can officially mean figuratively. WTF??? So now, if one actually means literally, they must use the word actually. If we change the meaning of actually, we'll have no distinction between physical reality and metaphor. Jesus fuck, somebody stop the madness! And kids, please stay in school...
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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"“donation” entered the language first, in the 15th century, and only later, in the 19th century, was the verb “donate” formed by removing the suffix."

This back formation is the creator of many words. you choosing to view a word as being "correct", or not, doesnt matter

Conversate is a word, in our ever evolving and fluid language

"Jesse Sheidlower, Editor At Large for the Oxford English Dictionary"
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2009/01/added-bonus-irregardless-of-what-you-think-quot-conversate-quot-is-a-word/6549/
On a side note
I like hopefully as a sentence adverb. It took a while but it has also evolved
Get with it tyler
 
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tyler.durden

tyler.durden

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qwizoking said:
"“donation” entered the language first, in the 15th century, and only later, in the 19th century, was the verb “donate” formed by removing the suffix."

This back formation is the creator of many words. you choosing to view a word as being "correct", or not, doesnt matter

Conversate is a word, in our ever evolving and fluid language

"Jesse Sheidlower, Editor At Large for the Oxford English Dictionary"
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2009/01/added-bonus-irregardless-of-what-you-think-quot-conversate-quot-is-a-word/6549/
On a side note
I like hopefully as a sentence adverb. It took a while but it has also evolved
Get with it tyler
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Excellent post, and I see your point. While you are certainly correct that non-standard words can become standard, yours is an Argument from Authority, so we have to be wary of logical fallacies - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

I love this quote from your dude, "Our goal is to include things that are in widespread use. We don't care about things like whether they are acceptable, ungrammatical, or offensive." Yikes!!! Unexpected from a dictionary company...

I'll do the same here - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conversate

Word story

The use of conversate has soared since 2000, mostly in speech and in written records of speech. The term is a back formation from conversation, created by dropping the suffix -ion, and adding -e, to produce a verb form.
Since it has essentially the same meaning as the more common and frequently used verb converse, the term conversate has been condemned in some circles as an unnecessary nonword. And, because the term occurs mostly among Blacks and Latinos, some discussions have become heated and impassioned, turning the word into a badge (both positive and negative) of a person’s class and education.
Conversate reminds us that discussions about modern English must take into account the different types of English spoken in our diverse culture, rather than fixating on “correct” formal usage. When all is said and done, however, the term broadly remains nonstandard English.

Related Quotations

“The connections [the seventeen-year-old Latina] made between her personal growth and her interactions with one of her teachers were very powerful and the audience at the Ivy League school were in awe of her. All but one, the one who had only listened to her use of non-standard English as she stated that ‘in our class we “conversate” with the teacher and that has helped me in my work with adults.’“
—Xae Alicia Reyes, “Why Can’t We ‘Conversate’?: Silencing and Alienation of Latinos and African Americans in School Settings“ Black and Brown Communication: Latino and African American Conflict and Covergence in Mass Media edited by Diana I. Rios and A. N. Mohamed (2003)
“It’s not about a word at all. It's about us. It's about excellence. No one is saying you must speak and act correctly at all times, but unfortunately, lots of us don't know when the hell those times are anymore or exactly what speaking and acting correctly mean. And worse, they don't care.“
—Jam Donaldson, Conversate Is Not a Word: Getting Away from Ghetto (2010)



I'll have to take solace in the fact that the word is non-standard, i.e. you can use it with your friends (if they're idiots), but probably better if you don't in a job interview, or when applying for an ivy league school. In any case, I will continue to smack those that use it ;)
 
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Singlemalt

Singlemalt

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sunny747 said:
All great examples.. A few of them I have even misused myself.. I actually have to look up affect and effect every time I use either :)

On here I constantly see "looking for advise" rather than advice.

I thought this was a pretty funny image.

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Yes it is funny, but artist and publisher are co-conspirators in the defilement of the language at large. Slang is great and apropos many of the times, however a militant push to dismiss the roots and rules of a particular language is heresy and deserves painful death. If you don't feel a modicum of education and knowledge of one's own culture is beneficial; one deserves a brutal and painful death :)
 
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