hellmutt bones
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Bubble buckets its the easiest and u get monter plants.
Best system for SOG?
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have you ever tried an aero grow? I've heard the sprayers don't clog as much as people make it seem esp if you get the right sprayers and thats what i was going to make was an aero/nft system like the aeroflo but i was going to make it using a botanicare f&d table. but have you ever seen the "grow 15 pounds in 80 days video" ? he uses 3 areas with 6x4 aqua mist tables which are basically dwc/aero systems and he pulled round 5 pounds per table with 1800watts
GrowerGoneWild
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Yes, I ran LP Aero in a few configurations. I was using raindrip micro sprayers, eventually they got clogged. Could have been my sprayer selection.
Problem with Aero, or Flood, is no way to isolate the plants at the end when going perpetual. Some call it a flush I just stop feeding when almost ripe.
I'll have to check out that video.. see what genetics hes using, those are some big numbers.
what do you mean by "no way to isolate the plants at the end when going perpetual" you mean flush? id just do different tables and keep each table with the same strain, in the same week. but yeah dude thats what inspired me to do aero, he's using northern lights on all the tables.
just curious could you giving me an idea of how many watts you put under that one aeroflo60 you made? and how many plants and what would your yield usually be around?
Carolina Dream'n
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Flood and drain tables. Rock wool if your looking for ease of use. Hydroton if you don't care about a lot more prep work.
600 over a 3x3 or 1000 over a 4x4.
600 over a 3x3 or 1000 over a 4x4.
how many plants would you put in a 4x4? and what would you expect to yield on decently high yielding strain?
GrowerGoneWild
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I was getting around .8GPW (dried and cured with an aggressive trim) running 20 plants under each 1kw running White Widow with a 3 week veg time. I could have added another rail for more plants. Might have gotten me over 1gpw, I should have gone with a shorter veg time and more plants, they would get tall enough to cause the netcups to pop out of the rail. Might have gotten better performance with 2 600's barebulb than the 1kw barebulb.
When I top feed I can still have the plant in a tray or whatever and just pull out the dripper when it gets to the end, like this last grow I was going with SOG/ hydroton in 2 gallon smart pots in 3X4s? with 20 to a tray. with 600's.. something like that. when the plants that were ripe at the end were looking good I"ll just handwater them to kinda rinse the hydroton and they didn't need too much food at the end. So I was staggering the harvest in the trays instead of having another tray on a different harvest date.
I watched that video, pretty cool.. I think I've seen it before.. its kinda old but whatever, still good info.
so you only used 20 plant sites in the aeroflo60? what did you just space them out evenly as possible? also, you say you should've vegged less and added more plants to get a higher yield... couldn't you have just vegged an extra week with the same # of plants and gotten the same extra yield instead of adding extra plants? obviously it'd take a week longer but i guess if you don't care about the legality of plant count then it'd make more sense to just add extra plants and cut time
GrowerGoneWild
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It was a knockoff of an aeroflo 60, my own design, I thought bigger was better. I needed more plants I think not more veg time.
I'd rather run it a bit smaller, but hindsight is 20/20.. Totally needed a little more tweaking depending on genetics I was running.
Keep in mind that I ran that system like that in 2008.. Eventually came around to going with flood tables top drip in hydro, seemed alot more simple. A guy I know he was running ak47 in and E&F table and under each 600 he was getting 1lb+ nice even canopy like what that guy had in the video you posted. Believe me I've run a few versions of aero, big and small and you have to watch it, alot of things that need to be checked constantly, and the pumps need to be bigger to get a good spray.
Anyways.. flood tables are good, its what I like to use for SOG.
Budley Doright
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Op was asking about SOG, not monster plants lol.
Budley Doright
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This thread is about SOG right? Are flood tables not really the best choice? Is SOG not about high plant numbers, typically smaller, single cola plants, tightly packed on a table?
Budget Buds
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Aeroponic is how i SOG but I would suggest cutting your teeth with something like DWC for a bit first.
Budley Doright
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I run sprayers as well but just think in the true definition of SOG that tables with top feed or flood would be a better choice but I could be way wrong, never ran tables or SOG. Well actually if your talking stuffing as many plants in one area and letting them grow all over each other and calling it a sog, well ya I've done that lol. Thought more was better for a long time, took a while to realize that was counter productive and well trained, spaced out plants do better imo.
tokalotapot
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for me i tried many aero drip floods bubble dwc recirc/dwc and handsdown ebb smoked em all size and time was unmatched. because i have full control of my water cycle and the water isnt under the canopy 24/7 the res is easier to clean and maintain water temp than dwc. but there was a real challenger the mighty drip. little more detail work and i used 1/3 the nutes but water from the top and dont use sprayheads(wasted money and they clog always ) just let it run out the end of the hose into a bucket
tokalotapot
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i hear fog ponics is the ultimate but never used it because it is a fineline between the best o2 for the roots and no water for the roots. im not in the situation where i can just kill the shit over a clogged fog emitter
GrowerGoneWild
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NOT MY GROW.. Its "SoQuick"
7KW SOG, Running GH Floranova, And Ionic, AK47 x C99. I think he calls it AK99
I've been a Floranova user for years, its on point, great stuff. And his genetics are a good compromise, my buddy that was running AK47.. Awesome, like little christmas trees. Anybody that's run C99 know its can get a bit tall and airy but crossing the 2 makes for good looking flowers as we can see there. Floranova makes great flowers, I was running a indica hybrid under a 400W in SCROG.. I was getting colas 3 fingers wide, no problem.
I eventually came around to top feed hydroton, it just works.. I'll have to look at my notes but my dripper timing was close to his I think I was running 1 on 30 off, his is 30 seconds on 30 off. Something like that.
Anyways, I do my in smaller smart pots, in a flood table, keeps the plumbing simple, the return fluid is somewhat filtered by the smartpots.
Again this is not mine.. just using this as an example of SOG thats similar to my style.
SoQuick. hope you're doing ok out there.. wherever you are.
7KW SOG, Running GH Floranova, And Ionic, AK47 x C99. I think he calls it AK99
I've been a Floranova user for years, its on point, great stuff. And his genetics are a good compromise, my buddy that was running AK47.. Awesome, like little christmas trees. Anybody that's run C99 know its can get a bit tall and airy but crossing the 2 makes for good looking flowers as we can see there. Floranova makes great flowers, I was running a indica hybrid under a 400W in SCROG.. I was getting colas 3 fingers wide, no problem.
I eventually came around to top feed hydroton, it just works.. I'll have to look at my notes but my dripper timing was close to his I think I was running 1 on 30 off, his is 30 seconds on 30 off. Something like that.
Anyways, I do my in smaller smart pots, in a flood table, keeps the plumbing simple, the return fluid is somewhat filtered by the smartpots.
Again this is not mine.. just using this as an example of SOG thats similar to my style.
SoQuick. hope you're doing ok out there.. wherever you are.
GrowerGoneWild
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Well a good SOG makes plants that are just single cola, and since they have a short veg time, it tends to be just that with little leaves. So a good SOG is well trained, and spaced out.
MrStickyScissors
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30 in 4 inch cubes
Budley Doright
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I have had very few mist heads plug and any that did were my fault by leaving plastic shavings in pipe. Not saying its better but really I have not noticed a huge difference in yield with any one setup. The a
hellmutt bones
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Sog is screen of green! And yes you can get some monster plants with sog, thats the whole purpose for sog.
If u do it wright.