Does Hydro yeild more than soil?,,, if so how much
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Gnja420
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Sorry, I have no idea. A bad attempt at trolling a little 
. You know, "How much will I yield??"
Have heard that hydro will give more weight, but never tried soil, only hydro. But like you stated, in the same conditions, I believe from what I have heard you will gain more from hydro. Still there are variables to consider. But don`t take my word from it. I am sure someone more experienced will come along!
We`re good I hope!
. You know, "How much will I yield??"Have heard that hydro will give more weight, but never tried soil, only hydro. But like you stated, in the same conditions, I believe from what I have heard you will gain more from hydro. Still there are variables to consider. But don`t take my word from it. I am sure someone more experienced will come along!
We`re good I hope!
Alienwidow
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Yes, way more. A good grow in soil with six plants a light and a three month veg would get you just over a pound and a half a light. Same six plants with a two month veg would do almost 2.5 lbs a light.
New Age United
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I grow dakini kush and I can usually pull a qp per plant, a lb from 4 under 1 600w hid with 8 weeks veg. Do you really think I would be able to double that if I went hydro, I didn't think it would be that much difference that's why I never went to hydro I thought it was just to shave a couple weeks off your veg time that would definitely convince me to go hydro. Are you sure have you ever grown in soil with the same strain you have grown hydro.
Tim Fox
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my story is, I grew hydro 25 years ago in my garage, oregon legalized 4 plant home grows as if July 1st, I have ran 2 small crops thru my box , both in FFOF soil and its just a cluster mess of hot nutes burnt leaves , nitrogen tox,, and i have no control because I am stuck in dirt,, cant flush, grrrrr
but I think I may be getting a handle on soil slowly,, but I remember 25 years ago, and the BIG ASS buds I used to pull out of that box under a 400 MH bulb in flood drain hydro,
but soil is so dam easy,,
So hydro so far gives
1 shorter veg time?
2. higher yeild? yes or no?
but I think I may be getting a handle on soil slowly,, but I remember 25 years ago, and the BIG ASS buds I used to pull out of that box under a 400 MH bulb in flood drain hydro,
but soil is so dam easy,,
So hydro so far gives
1 shorter veg time?
2. higher yeild? yes or no?
ttystikk
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The promise of hydro ponics comes from its name; growing with water. ALL the necessary nutrients are in suspension in the water and therefore fully available to the plant. With certain kinds of hydroponics, this nutrient solution can be available to the plant at all times. It's this constant full availability that gives hydro the edge in growth and yield potential, all other variables being equal.
As @Tim Fox just noted above, hydroponic systems can allow the grower to change or amend their nutrient solution anytime, allowing for total control over the composition of minerals the plant gets access to.
Organic soil systems can approach this ideal, and you won't hear me bet against their ultimate potential.
As @Tim Fox just noted above, hydroponic systems can allow the grower to change or amend their nutrient solution anytime, allowing for total control over the composition of minerals the plant gets access to.
Organic soil systems can approach this ideal, and you won't hear me bet against their ultimate potential.
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Indacouch
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There's a lot of shitty ffof going around this year
New Age United
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I use promix and just Schultz all purpose for veg and Schultz bloom for flower and I never have problems with nute burn or deficiencies, I think a lot of it depends on the strain too though.
Tim Fox
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some are saying that promix doesnt have much in the way of nutes in the soil from the start, so you can feed it the nutes of your choice ,, is this true?,, if so promix is just a medium,, like coco can be called a medium,, I was looking at Hempy buckets, using coco or the perolite,, but hell I thought if I do that I may as well put in a few plumbing connections and hook up a pump and a second timer for the nute pump and one for the light
New Age United
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Oh yeah, two thirds promix one third sheep manure. No promix is not heavy in nutrients but I never get deficiencies or nute burn. I feed them pretty heavy once they get big and I always have strong healthy plants. The nute burn is probably coming from the ffof.
Tim Fox
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no doubt the ffof is the major culprit in this , some guys are reporting doing nothing but water for a whole grow in ffof,, and then I say,, what kinda control over matters is that,, none, you just get what you get, and if a person was to add anthing to the ffof soil it screws up the grow,, I dont want to spend another 4 months for a shitty grow because the soil took me for a ride
Al Yamoni
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Very well stated.
Gnja420
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I have done 5 runs in hempy buckets pure perlite and enjoyed it quite well. Using GHE 3 part. But I now changed to Autopots and pure coco and hydroton in the bottom. For my part this absolutely rock my world. No deficiencies so far 3 weeks into flower. Using Canna coco a+b, rhizotonic and cannazym. I have cal + mag (different bottles) as well, as I fed to little nutrients in the beginning, handwatering. Not using treated water either, but then again I`m not in the states, so might be different.
I might be biased now, seeing the results I get compared to hempy buckets. And the little work required. Just fill the res couple of times per week. Then again people get great results in those. It just wasn`t for me I guess.
But thought I`d give a heads up.
Btw, I guess my troll answer was not that far from
I might be biased now, seeing the results I get compared to hempy buckets. And the little work required. Just fill the res couple of times per week. Then again people get great results in those. It just wasn`t for me I guess.
But thought I`d give a heads up.
Btw, I guess my troll answer was not that far from
since1991
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Hydroponics done correctly CAN give a slight edge in final dry weight harvest but in mh experience where hydroponics (especially aero, nft, and dwc) really shines is the light speed time plants spend in veg growth under long days of 18-6 or more. They just veg much faster in a shorter time than soil grown plants and even soilless mixes such as peat. Even this is technically hydroponics but not of the water working variety mentioned above.
Alaric
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Hey AW,
Vegged for 3 months in what conditions (light wattage)?
2.5 lbs a light (assume 1K)------got any pics to substantiate?
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Alienwidow
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Nope, im using my buddys numbers for his rdwc. We both use the same double ended lights and i was in soil, ended up with a lb and a half per light average. He hits 2.5 every grow. Hes dialed in and pulling an extra harvest per year compared to me. Asshole
2.5 a light isnt that hard to get in dwc though. Im sure theres other guys getting those numbers here.
since1991
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With the new double ended 1000 watt hps lamps hitting 2.5 pounds with the right variety has become easier for sure but still difficult to achieve for most. Hitting those numbers with traditional lamps uh....ive noticed what people claim is alot different than reality. Its not easy and definitely not the norm. Most people get around 16 to 24 ounces of trimmed dried medical quality patient ready buds. Thats the truth!!!
Alaric
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I've never tried those double ended 1Ks before-----I understand they're hotter than a 1K hortilux (what I run)----how much hotter,IDK.
I hope i'm wrong being skeptical---- I agree about usually claims being different than reality.
I was pulling 24 zips per 1K in pics below-----would love to see 44 zips per 1K (just shy of double).
Strain/s mostly NL5.
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