When I think of growing weed I see it as a complicated process that requires special soil mix fresh water and nutes...but are vegetables just as complex? Or is it like how I'm thinking you can plant it in much cheaper home depot soil and just water it with no nutes and just top quality organic veggies?
How easy are growing A1 vegetables compared to growing A1 weed?
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Final Phase
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Growing for use of any food, product, is somewhat like growing herb. You get what you put into it in the end. Toss out the seeds of corn in regular soil - Don't expect it to grow like the kind you get in the store...
Of course growing herb is more demanding than most plants - but there are people into growing incredibly difficult plants like the wasabi plant for the root which is worth a lot of cash.
Of course growing herb is more demanding than most plants - but there are people into growing incredibly difficult plants like the wasabi plant for the root which is worth a lot of cash.
OGEvilgenius
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All plants are similar (but hardly the same, you need to learn what it likes and doesn't like - all plants are like this though). There is nothing magical about cannabis. You get what you put in. Build a good soil and it does most of the work for you.
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BarnBuster
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do your homework and read up. every time i get on this site i learn something new.
harris hawk
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If 1st time remember to _Keep It Simple_ cultivation takes time and good information > Happy Cultivation !!! Start off with a simple inexpensive soil (top soil(50%) peat moss (50%) If you have growing experience no problem - just need to know the flowering periods and nutrient use
ltecato
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I think it's usually easier to grow edible veggies than smokable cannabis. For one thing the "respectable" legal seed companies can spend billions of dollars researching corn or lettuce but cannabis growers don't have that kind of money and they can't do their research in plain view.
Main problems I've had with veggies: 1. Don't believe the "experts" when they say pillbugs don't cause problems. The little bastards will eat the heads off of bean sprouts, for one thing, and I've also seen them going after melons or gourds on the ground. 2. Tomatoes and eggplants are not that hard to grow and they usually taste much better than store-bought. However when I grew them in Texas the skins on the fruit would get so tough it was impossible to chew them. I think that was because of the heat during summer. 3. I never was any good at growing melons. I'd harvest a full-grown cantaloupe and it would have no sweet flavor at all. Still don't know what I did wrong. 4. I was never able to grow squash because there's a moth that lays eggs in the stems and then the larvae kill the plant.
Since it's late in the year, you might want to start with the salad crops before the weather gets too cold. Homegrown lettuce or spinach is always better than anything the stores are selling. I've grown my own potatoes a few times and they are delicious. One minor problem is you probably won't get the giant size of taters you see in groceries. But the smaller ones you get are great. If you like green beans, you should definitely grow your own come summer. Peas usually have to be planted early spring or in fall because they favor cooler weather.
Main problems I've had with veggies: 1. Don't believe the "experts" when they say pillbugs don't cause problems. The little bastards will eat the heads off of bean sprouts, for one thing, and I've also seen them going after melons or gourds on the ground. 2. Tomatoes and eggplants are not that hard to grow and they usually taste much better than store-bought. However when I grew them in Texas the skins on the fruit would get so tough it was impossible to chew them. I think that was because of the heat during summer. 3. I never was any good at growing melons. I'd harvest a full-grown cantaloupe and it would have no sweet flavor at all. Still don't know what I did wrong. 4. I was never able to grow squash because there's a moth that lays eggs in the stems and then the larvae kill the plant.
Since it's late in the year, you might want to start with the salad crops before the weather gets too cold. Homegrown lettuce or spinach is always better than anything the stores are selling. I've grown my own potatoes a few times and they are delicious. One minor problem is you probably won't get the giant size of taters you see in groceries. But the smaller ones you get are great. If you like green beans, you should definitely grow your own come summer. Peas usually have to be planted early spring or in fall because they favor cooler weather.
GrowerGoneWild
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Depends on what you want to grow.
I like species that are adjusted to my area.. for example, alpine strawberries. They pretty much grow by themselves, minimal care.. a little rabbit manure mixed into the soil around the areas near the areas helps, and unlike cannabis its a perennial.
Now if you try to grow something more difficult like say tomatoes, its a bit more challenging if you're growing a plant not setup for that zone. You need a hot house.. Tomatoes are not like cannabis, the flowers need polination, I like to do it manually, I'll tap the flowers to get them to go.
Lettuce is a fun one too.. however pests like to get to them.
Sonnshine
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There's a range of difficulty, and like GrowerGoneWild says, it varies by your area. People in the South can grow Lima beans,. I'll never see one in the cool PNW. SW gardeners can grow wicked chiles, I'm stuck with a few trusty varieties of hot peppers. Some things I think are just tough anywhere, like celery.
If you want to grow enough food to feed yourself, you take it as seriously as people who grow weed. And if you're into some of the more difficult flowers, orchids come to mind, you can go to extremes, I think that may be tougher than growing ganja. But most people just garden to get some tomatoes, make some pickles or dilly beans and call it good.
If you really care, check out The Intelligent Gardener by Steve Soloman (a really good book on soil science) or Gardening when it Counts (same author) from Mother Earth News publishing. he grows food and prepares his soil like he's growing weed, but then again, he got introduced to the same concepts of maximizing plant growth by weed growers in the Loraine Oregon in the 70s, he talks about it in one of the prefaces of his earlier books, targeted specifically at gardening west of the cascades. But that first book is good for just understanding soil nutrients and how all the trace elements work.
If you want to grow enough food to feed yourself, you take it as seriously as people who grow weed. And if you're into some of the more difficult flowers, orchids come to mind, you can go to extremes, I think that may be tougher than growing ganja. But most people just garden to get some tomatoes, make some pickles or dilly beans and call it good.
If you really care, check out The Intelligent Gardener by Steve Soloman (a really good book on soil science) or Gardening when it Counts (same author) from Mother Earth News publishing. he grows food and prepares his soil like he's growing weed, but then again, he got introduced to the same concepts of maximizing plant growth by weed growers in the Loraine Oregon in the 70s, he talks about it in one of the prefaces of his earlier books, targeted specifically at gardening west of the cascades. But that first book is good for just understanding soil nutrients and how all the trace elements work.
dandyrandy
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I use Promix soil from Menard's which ends up in my vegetable garden after use. I also use their buckets. I use a bloom fertilizer I order. Last a couple years. DIY lights. I water with tap water. I did check the pH. It was fine. I fill enough water jugs for 6 5 gal buckets. Let them loose some of the chlorine with no caps. I watch the plants as they grow. I add fertilizer as needed. Watch the plants for deficiencies. Do not overwater. I use no checks on run off etc. I use minimal fertilizer and I use calmag plus in bloom as well. Last couple of weeks I cut way back on fertilizer and watch them turn lovely. Simple.
itinkitook2much
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I know this isn't the subject of thread but care to elaborate? or maybe PM?
Final Phase
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For nearly 30 years, Brian Oates has, in his words, "pig-headedly" devoted himself to a single pursuit: setting up the first commercial wasabi farm in North America.
Dozens of others in the US and Canada have tried to grow the plant - a type of horseradish that originates in Japan, where it is found growing naturally in rocky river beds - but almost all have failed.
The reason is simple: wasabi is deemed by most experts to be the most difficult plant in the world to grow commercially.
So what drives Mr Oates, and his business Pacific Coast Wasabi (PCW), other than his stated stubbornness?
The price.
Image captionAt market rates, a kilogram of wasabi goes for around $160, making it one of the world's most lucrative crops
Fetching nearly $160 (£9
per kilogram at wholesale, in addition to being hard to nurture, wasabi is also one of the most lucrative plants on the planet.
"It is much like gold - we expect to pay a lot for gold. Well, we expect to pay a lot for wasabi," says Mr Oates.
Dozens of others in the US and Canada have tried to grow the plant - a type of horseradish that originates in Japan, where it is found growing naturally in rocky river beds - but almost all have failed.
The reason is simple: wasabi is deemed by most experts to be the most difficult plant in the world to grow commercially.
So what drives Mr Oates, and his business Pacific Coast Wasabi (PCW), other than his stated stubbornness?
The price.
Image captionAt market rates, a kilogram of wasabi goes for around $160, making it one of the world's most lucrative crops
Fetching nearly $160 (£9
per kilogram at wholesale, in addition to being hard to nurture, wasabi is also one of the most lucrative plants on the planet."It is much like gold - we expect to pay a lot for gold. Well, we expect to pay a lot for wasabi," says Mr Oates.
GrowerGoneWild
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^^^^ Hah, thats crazy.. Now that I think about it I've only had real wasabi a few times, I usually get the green ball..
I wonder why its so hard to cultivate?.. I'm doing a little reading on american horseraddish, really interesting stuff on how the chemicals are used to dissuade herbivores from eating it. I'm gonna see how the two are similar..
So freaking cool how humans use these plant defense chemicals to our advantage...
I wonder why its so hard to cultivate?.. I'm doing a little reading on american horseraddish, really interesting stuff on how the chemicals are used to dissuade herbivores from eating it. I'm gonna see how the two are similar..
So freaking cool how humans use these plant defense chemicals to our advantage...
Po boy
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why not grow vegetables and edible herbs? it'll only increase your growing knowledge and experience. you'll find what you grow tastes much better than what is sold in stores and most produce markets. GL
jacksthc
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I treat my vegs the same as my weed (soil and nutes) and they both need to same to grow the high yeild, makes no diffence
I use bio buzz fishmix and bloom, cheap soil from the garden center and my plants grow full of bud
used to play around with nutes and high quality soil but its a waste of time and money imo
itinkitook2much
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I'm going to look a lot more into growing wasabi now that I know this my friend!For nearly 30 years, Brian Oates has, in his words, "pig-headedly" devoted himself to a single pursuit: setting up the first commercial wasabi farm in North America.
Dozens of others in the US and Canada have tried to grow the plant - a type of horseradish that originates in Japan, where it is found growing naturally in rocky river beds - but almost all have failed.
The reason is simple: wasabi is deemed by most experts to be the most difficult plant in the world to grow commercially.
So what drives Mr Oates, and his business Pacific Coast Wasabi (PCW), other than his stated stubbornness?
The price.
Image captionAt market rates, a kilogram of wasabi goes for around $160, making it one of the world's most lucrative crops
Fetching nearly $160 (£9
"It is much like gold - we expect to pay a lot for gold. Well, we expect to pay a lot for wasabi," says Mr Oates.
GrowerGoneWild
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Heh, I wonder if the Marijuana Control Board would frown on me having a veggie garden in my grow op..
hotrodharley
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If you cannot grow decent tomatoes you are not going to have super pot. If you cannot bring in a yield of good squash (not just zucchini) then you should stick to buying weed or use bag seeds. I have never seen a good veggie gardener start to grow pot and have it go bad. They have questions for sure. But they READ THE PLANTS! They retain the knowledge too.
GrowerGoneWild
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^^^ Agreed, I had a veggie garden in the backyard when growing up. I knew about composting basics, hot fertilizers..
Growing food is a necessary life skill, everybody should learn how to garden. I honestly believe it should be a required skill.. Plants are a beautiful thing.
Growing food is a necessary life skill, everybody should learn how to garden. I honestly believe it should be a required skill.. Plants are a beautiful thing.