How easy are growing A1 vegetables compared to growing A1 weed?

hotrodharley said:
If you cannot grow decent tomatoes you are not going to have super pot. If you cannot bring in a yield of good squash (not just zucchini) then you should stick to buying weed or use bag seeds. I have never seen a good veggie gardener start to grow pot and have it go bad. They have questions for sure. But they READ THE PLANTS! They retain the knowledge too.
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This. I've gardened for decades, and the knowledge you gain only helps with growing weed. And to add to what GrowerGoneWild says, I agree, people should learn how to grow their own food - AND preserve it. It's one of the most revolutionary things you can accomplish, weaning yourself off agribusiness, even a little bit.
 
Dang, I wish I had some tomato picts to post up.. I was growing Jet Setter tomatoes for awhile.. not too bad, but not nearly as good as the varieties from down south. I get my veggie/fruit fix when i'm south. :) Not to mention the fruit trees. I wonder how the old pomegranate tree is doing... I am going to hit it with some "Recharge" when I get there, its your typical molasses, microbe mix. Hopefully the ants havent tore it up too badly.... sorry rambling..

So fucking cool to grow something and get it to the table. So what if most of it isn't "Grade A" fancy. You're likely to waste less than the veggie farmer growing food and throwing the imperfect stuff out.

I know.. I know.. I'm a plant nerd hippy.. and a dirty stinky one at that :)
 
Sonnshine said:
This. I've gardened for decades, and the knowledge you gain only helps with growing weed. And to add to what GrowerGoneWild says, I agree, people should learn how to grow their own food - AND preserve it. It's one of the most revolutionary things you can accomplish, weaning yourself off agribusiness, even a little bit.
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Just canned an entire flat of pints of New Mexico Hot Dog Relish.Homegrown cukes and jalapenos with store bought serranos and habaneros. 1 qt cukes to 2 qts chiles. I'm a crusty single old man. I believe all should be able to grow their own food as well as kill and butcher at least one animal if you are a meat eater. If you can't bring yourself to do it then maybe you don't deserve to let others take their spirits.
 
"In the years before America entered the war, Albert was in Mexico with the Escalante Brothers' Circus, playing the clown and doing a high wire act. While there, he photographed German U-boat activity as an "amateur spy" for Army intelligence. Once enlisted, he served as a lieutenant and was part of the first wave of Marines at Tarawa, witnessing unspeakable atrocities."

Eddie Albert of the corny TV show "Green Acres". His therapy for his PTSD (undiagnosed and unheard of back then) was gardening. He was taken to court by his homeowners' association for having a front yard that was a vegetable garden.They lost.

http://www.grandtimes.com/eddie.html
 
hotrodharley said:
Just canned an entire flat of pints of New Mexico Hot Dog Relish.Homegrown cukes and jalapenos with store bought serranos and habaneros. 1 qt cukes to 2 qts chiles. I'm a crusty single old man. I believe all should be able to grow their own food as well as kill and butcher at least one animal if you are a meat eater. If you can't bring yourself to do it then maybe you don't deserve to let others take their spirits.
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Awesome. My haul for the season is 32 quarts of grape juice, 17 quarts paste tomatoes (Heinz) and 11 quarts peaches (Veteran). Also steamed some blackberry juice that we gleaned for free, but that's already all gone. I also dried a ton (well, close to 200 pounds) of Oregon berries - strawberries (Shuksan type is soooooo good), raspberries and blueberries. Did not get around to making pickles this year, but that's okay, still have a lot from last year. Next up is apple cider season!

I'm not surprised hearing Eddie Albert gardened for PTSD. IMNSHO, it's one of the most relaxing, restorative things anyone can do. Being outside, seeing and listening to nature on many levels, seeing how you interact with the world, it's a balm for the soul.
 
Sonnshine said:
IMNSHO, it's one of the most relaxing, restorative things anyone can do. Being outside, seeing and listening to nature on many levels, seeing how you interact with the world, it's a balm for the soul.
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This is exactly how I feel everytime I enter the community garden & this is my first summer ever gardening.. I wish I had done this at a much younger age! It's like therapy.. & pretty sad that soon enough I won't be able to garden until the snow melts:cry:
 
itinkitook2much said:
This is exactly how I feel everytime I enter the community garden & this is my first summer ever gardening.. I wish I had done this at a much younger age! It's like therapy.. & pretty sad that soon enough I won't be able to garden until the snow melts:cry:
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One nice thing about winter is getting all the seed catalogs and looking them over for what new things you may want to try. Also, not sure where you live, but you can garden into the winter in some areas. You can plant a fall garden in July/August and include cabbage and kale, not only is it very cold hardy, freezes actually increase the sugars and make them tastier. Cloches and cold frames can also help extend your garden season for a bit longer too.
 
Sonnshine said:
One nice thing about winter is getting all the seed catalogs and looking them over for what new things you may want to try. Also, not sure where you live, but you can garden into the winter in some areas. You can plant a fall garden in July/August and include cabbage and kale, not only is it very cold hardy, freezes actually increase the sugars and make them tastier. Cloches and cold frames can also help extend your garden season for a bit longer too.
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i live in quebec canada where winters are completely fuckin ridiculous.. in one night my garden will be submerged by minimum 2 feet of snow lol :\ .. i should try looking into the seed catalogs.. where can i find such? & also maybe look into indoor gardening!
 
itinkitook2much said:
i live in quebec canada where winters are completely fuckin ridiculous.. in one night my garden will be submerged by minimum 2 feet of snow lol :\ .. i should try looking into the seed catalogs.. where can i find such? & also maybe look into indoor gardening!
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I get them sent to me, because we've ordered from them in the past. You can go to the web sites for various companies and request a catalog usually, once you do that, you'll probably get them sent in subsequent years, you'll be on the list.

I'm a huge fan of Territorial Seeds, they have a link on main page to request a catalog. Johnny's Seeds are also good quality. Peace Seeds is also good, but pretty small Northwest operation. Baker Seeds Heirlooms, Seeds of Change, Annie's Heirloom Seeds, RH Shumway Seeds and Seed Savers Exchange are also sources I'd recommend. I prefer the heirloom and smaller companies (and this is not a complete list, there are a LOT more companies). I bet if you google them, they'll all have free catalogs (maybe not Peace Seeds though). And I also have to put a plug in for Nichols Garden Nursery in Albany, OR, as they are a good source for things like horseradish and hops, not stuff you find in many catalogs or nurseries.
 
Sonnshine said:
I get them sent to me, because we've ordered from them in the past. You can go to the web sites for various companies and request a catalog usually, once you do that, you'll probably get them sent in subsequent years, you'll be on the list.

I'm a huge fan of Territorial Seeds, they have a link on main page to request a catalog. Johnny's Seeds are also good quality. Peace Seeds is also good, but pretty small Northwest operation. Baker Seeds Heirlooms, Seeds of Change, Annie's Heirloom Seeds, RH Shumway Seeds and Seed Savers Exchange are also sources I'd recommend. I prefer the heirloom and smaller companies (and this is not a complete list, there are a LOT more companies). I bet if you google them, they'll all have free catalogs (maybe not Peace Seeds though). And I also have to put a plug in for Nichols Garden Nursery in Albany, OR, as they are a good source for things like horseradish and hops, not stuff you find in many catalogs or nurseries.
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god damn dude thanks a bunch !!! :D
 
hotrodharley said:
Just canned an entire flat of pints of New Mexico Hot Dog Relish.Homegrown cukes and jalapenos with store bought serranos and habaneros. 1 qt cukes to 2 qts chiles. I'm a crusty single old man. I believe all should be able to grow their own food as well as kill and butcher at least one animal if you are a meat eater. If you can't bring yourself to do it then maybe you don't deserve to let others take their spirits.
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amen
 
GrowerGoneWild said:
^^^ Agreed, I had a veggie garden in the backyard when growing up. I knew about composting basics, hot fertilizers..
Growing food is a necessary life skill, everybody should learn how to garden. I honestly believe it should be a required skill.. Plants are a beautiful thing. :)
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When I was kid in the 70's everyone had a big garden, now they've got everyone trained to buy everything at the garbage food store for sky high prices. These days even in the little rural farming towns around where I grew up gardens are rare. A few people still do it but not a lot! I'm not so sure a lot of the farmers around there even know that much about growing plants, they just do what Monsanto tells them to, most of them seem to be industrial farming robots.

I got into it again after seeing my 90 year old neighbor where I used to live out farming his backyard every day like a job, you could tell he really loved it... that guy had been through it all, the Great Depression, WW2 and all the bullshit since, those old timers that went through that crap knew that having a nice garden is a wonderful thing. One day I noticed that his garden wasn't being taken care of and knew that he had passed away. His kids and relatives didn't even pick the stuff and it all rotted out there. .
 
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