AquariusPanta
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A COB is only as good as it's driver.
Area 51 Why wait, seems you can buy cree cobs lights now
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BigYellowCob
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There's at least this guy growing with PLC lights besides GG.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/pacific-light-concepts.882496/
https://www.rollitup.org/t/pacific-light-concepts.882496/
GoGreenLEDs
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our website is gogreenleds.com and our bin on our CXB3070s are AB.
GoGreenLEDs
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[Sorry
QUOTE="BigYellowCob, post: 11944985, member: 904065"]The only thing not answered on his website (yes, the site with the 's' in the address and is hyperlinked in the post you replied to) is the bin of CXBs, which has already been answered. It states the drivers used, and in the About section it states that the light is designed in the US and made in China (like almost every product sold in the US).
We finally have some commercial products coming out built with quality components, and apparently now we still aren't happy and want to bash a guy for giving his site a similar name to another LED light company (which doesn't even make grow lights as best as I can tell). We won't know about the build quality of the light until more people start using them, but can we please put away the pitchforks until they've been tested at least?
EDIT: I thought I saw the driver make on the site, but after taking another look it just states the current the drivers run at, not the make. On BM9AGS review page, it looks like he's using some proprietary drivers. Maybe our GoGreen guy can provide some insight on the drivers, if PB hasn't scared him away lol. If PLC is using Meanwells then GreenGenes has an advantage there IMO.[/QUOTE]
Or drivers on our latest batch of 9 COB lights are using Meanwell HLG-185H-C1400B drivers. The 4 and the 6 COB are using non-brand name >88% efficient drivers, to keep costs reasonable. We stand by our drivers and have a 5 year warranty on them. I agree the name Go Green LEDs is not original but we believe in the brand and what it means to large scale commercial growers as our lights will reduce their carbon footprint from about 4.6 tons of carbon per 1000W HPS to 2.2 tons with one of our lights 450W LED lights. I know that may not mean much to the users using one or two lights here but to a commercial user using dozens or 100 lights that is a large impact. Going green is more than our name it's where the industry needs to go. We believe our Cree CXB lights can make that happen. We want give back to the community here and wish to see everyone who wants this technology to be able to get it at a reasonable price.
Tim Fox
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Or drivers on our latest batch of 9 COB lights are using Meanwell HLG-185H-C1400B drivers. The 4 and the 6 COB are using non-brand name >88% efficient drivers, to keep costs reasonable. We stand by our drivers and have a 5 year warranty on them. I agree the name Go Green LEDs is not original but we believe in the brand and what it means to large scale commercial growers as our lights will reduce their carbon footprint from about 4.6 tons of carbon per 1000W HPS to 2.2 tons with one of our lights 450W LED lights. I know that may not mean much to the users using one or two lights here but to a commercial user using dozens or 100 lights that is a large impact. Going green is more than our name it's where the industry needs to go. We believe our Cree CXB lights can make that happen. We want give back to the community here and wish to see everyone who wants this technology to be able to get it at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]
When will we see the cxb3590
AquariusPanta
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@GoGreenLEDs
How again does 450W of COB outdue 1000W of HPS? Is that during veg only? What about MH? Does it outdue 1000W MH? Where are the tests that prove your claims? I'd like to see them as I just ran my own testing and 900W (dissipated) of top-bin (BB-bin) Cree CXB 3070 slightly surpassed 1000W HID (HPS/MH) in output.
How again does 450W of COB outdue 1000W of HPS? Is that during veg only? What about MH? Does it outdue 1000W MH? Where are the tests that prove your claims? I'd like to see them as I just ran my own testing and 900W (dissipated) of top-bin (BB-bin) Cree CXB 3070 slightly surpassed 1000W HID (HPS/MH) in output.
GoGreenLEDs
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When will we see the cxb3590[/QUOTE]
We are working on it, perhaps 3 to 6 months.
Tim Fox
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[QUOTE="AquariusPanta, post: 11948810, member:910924]@GoGreenLEDs[/USER]
How again does 450W of COB outdue 1000W of HPS? Is that during veg only? What about MH? Does it outdue 1000W MH? Where are the tests that prove your claims? I'd like to see them as I just ran my own testing and 900W (dissipated) of top-bin (BB-bin) Cree CXB 3070 slightly surpassed 1000W HID (HPS/MH) in output.[/QUOTE]
Light builders really step in do do when they make comparisons to build such as the one thousand watt hps, sadly they don't know that many people here on riu don't fall for such claims, especially when many people on RIU have already done comparison grows with pictures, they really shoot themselves in thy feet
How again does 450W of COB outdue 1000W of HPS? Is that during veg only? What about MH? Does it outdue 1000W MH? Where are the tests that prove your claims? I'd like to see them as I just ran my own testing and 900W (dissipated) of top-bin (BB-bin) Cree CXB 3070 slightly surpassed 1000W HID (HPS/MH) in output.[/QUOTE]
Light builders really step in do do when they make comparisons to build such as the one thousand watt hps, sadly they don't know that many people here on riu don't fall for such claims, especially when many people on RIU have already done comparison grows with pictures, they really shoot themselves in thy feet
BigEasy1
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As I've stated before, I'm glad the competition is heating up on LED grow light choices. There's no reason to listen to some sanctimonious asshole acting like he's doing you a favor by selling you a light 8 months late. Competition is good for the consumer and drives innovation.
PSUAGRO.
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[QUOTE="AquariusPanta, post: 11948810, member: 886695] I'd like to see them as I just ran my own testing and 900W (dissipated) of top-bin (BB-bin) Cree CXB 3070 slightly surpassed 1000W HID (HPS/MH) in output.[/QUOTE]
^^^that can't be right against a mogul based 1000w hid
^^^that can't be right against a mogul based 1000w hid
alesh
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I've seen him posting something with his CXB3070 running at 2.8A. That would explain it.
AquariusPanta
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@PSUAGRO.
Is Eye Hortilux not a legitimate company?
Edit: I did find that ~450W (dissipated) of CXB 3070 (BB) and Vero 29 did quite in fact outdue 600W HPS/MH at currents ~2.8A.
Obviously 900W of CXB 3070 (BB) at currents of ~1.4A is going to outdue 900W of CXB 3070 (BB) at currents of ~2.8A. It's just that one costs more than the other.
Is Eye Hortilux not a legitimate company?
Edit: I did find that ~450W (dissipated) of CXB 3070 (BB) and Vero 29 did quite in fact outdue 600W HPS/MH at currents ~2.8A.
Obviously 900W of CXB 3070 (BB) at currents of ~1.4A is going to outdue 900W of CXB 3070 (BB) at currents of ~2.8A. It's just that one costs more than the other.
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BM9AGS
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Yep competition for the companies is good for us.
I have a hard time reading your posts because I have to scroll away from your avatar.
Stephenj37826
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Wow really. I guess you are counting a bare 1000 HP's @ 1850 umol. Ummmmmm unless you are going bare bulb vert there is reflector loss. And if that is the case then we are fools who have wasted a lot of time and money. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this light will be a 750-800 watt hps replacement with the hps using a to of the line reflector and ballast.
AquariusPanta
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The details of these tests are in the All Things Vero thread but the 1000W HPS/MH bulbs were indeed inside a top of the line, air cooled reflector. I don't know of any 750-800W HPS but I do know that 450W (dissipated) of Vero 29, @~2.8a, outperforms a top of the line 600W HID system.
Stephenj37826
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If you look at the specs he is running cxb3070 ab bin at 1.4. What current did you run cxb3070 bb at?
JimmyIndica
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alesh
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Of course. But you need only 3/4 of power at 1.4A as opposed to running at 2.8A. Taken into account that the cost of the drivers is the same and the cost of the heat sink could be reduced...you do the math.
AquariusPanta
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Mine were ran at ~2.8A. The actual power consumption, stated of that "450W unit", should be higher though, as x9 CXB 3070 ran at ~1.4A produces well over 450W (dissipated); I don't believe Mean Well has reached that level of perfection where their drivers run 100% efficient but they are getting closer
The math shows me that 450W (dissipated) of Cree CXB 3070, @1.4A, is not only outmatched by 900W of Cree CXB 3070, @2.8A, but that it's actually more expensive.
Again, I'm just looking for some kind of demonstration from this new GoGreen company to back these ground-breaking, revolutionary claims.
alesh
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There's a fault in your design if the 450W comes more expensive than the 900W version with the same number of COBs.The math shows me that 450W (dissipated) of Cree CXB 3070, @1.4A, is not only outmatched by 900W of Cree CXB 3070, @2.8A, but that it's actually more expensive.
Again, I'm just looking for some kind of demonstration from this new GoGreen company to back these ground-breaking, revolutionary claims.