same here..
Round where I live, most dealers are ignorant of the bud they sell.
I think they think unflushed weed tasting only of nutrients is 'pukka bud'..
mostly amber???
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Round where I live, most dealers are ignorant of the bud they sell.
I think they think unflushed weed tasting only of nutrients is 'pukka bud'..
Dr. Who
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Flushing?same here..
Round where I live, most dealers are ignorant of the bud they sell.
I think they think unflushed weed tasting only of nutrients is 'pukka bud'..
Flushing is a MYTH! Hippie logic from the 70's.....
PROPER CURE, proper cure, proper cure!
Why stop feed at the most important time?
The plants potential cannot be reached now!
Name me ONE thing that gets flushed for human consumption?
The best cigar tobacco's are carefully dried and cured - NO flushing.....So why Cannabis?
There is NO scientific fact to back flushing!
Properly cured, unflushed weed, tastes like perfect weed - perfect burn and perfect ash...
Doc
You just opened the biggest can of worms on this site!
I said my piece and will not comment on it further - others most likely will.
cheapgrower2014
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personal use m8 not interested in making cash.I can only assume that you are a competent grower and have the knowledge and experience
I suppose it all depends on the grower, if he is doing it for the cash and he is desperate, then yes, he needs the best possible weight and product now.
If he is growing it for personal smoke, and it is his hobby, then I would think he would be best part harvesting and taking notes of what they look like before they are chopped and wet weight. Then after the dry and cure is finished test the dry weight with the taste and effects of the high.
This will give him knowledge to build on next grow.
Oil based nutrients need flushing from hydro grows
I know from past experience (1st hydro grow in wilma) that it tastes like chemicals if not flushed properly.
I agree that there is no need for flushing organic soil grows, but hydro, in my opinion it is essential.
I think you have been around top quality weed for too long, get yourself out into the inner cities and sample some of the bud..you maybe very surprised at the state of the quality on offer
Dr. Who
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then I would take a bud every few days..look at the consistency and the triclones colouring, dry and cure it..then sample it. ( take notes, or if you are like me, you will forget)
The difference in the high and taste is quite significant, and you can then taylor it to suit your own personal taste in subsequent grows.
you can get it just how you like it then.
My personal taste is left a little longer so mostly amber triclones..but most growers round here take it down at least a week too soon because they are only in it for the money. (why not? it sells just as well)
cheapgrower2014
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mate honestly i get 100% what your saying and should be following it like an order but i'm one lazy mother fecker lol i find it hard work watering every 2days lol. soz but got to disagree with flushing, i've never flushed and cant say i get a chemical taste, plus the fags already fuck up the health part lol
thanks
that is a lot of reading I will get back to
how about this
http://bigbudsmag.com/medical-hydroponics-marijuana-flushing-facts-don-t-be-fooled/
No worries mate
We all have our own opinion
I think most of us are 'laid back' smoking the herb
I dont have a refer until if done all my shit, otherwise it doesnt get done! ha ha
do you grow in soil?
are you familiar with the taste of weed that has not been flushed from hydro?
I really dislike the taste and it ruins my smoking pleasure when I score chemical bud ha ha
cheapgrower2014
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i'm the type that needs one too wake up lmao sorry for the slow replys m8 on the famous grouse and blue cheeseNo worries mate
We all have our own opinion
I think most of us are 'laid back' smoking the herb
I dont have a refer until if done all my shit, otherwise it doesnt get done! ha ha
do you grow in soil?
are you familiar with the taste of weed that has not been flushed from hydro?
I really dislike the taste and it ruins my smoking pleasure when I score chemical bud ha ha
yes vitalink medium, it's been good too me. i used b&q verve before but decided to go with a medium that was more suited too cannabis since i was using the same nutrients. no never tasted bud from hydro any good? better taste?Take a picture of this weird growing cola...everyone just stop the flushing talk so this thread can livei'm the type that needs one too wake up lmao sorry for the slow replys m8 on the famous grouse and blue cheese
pseudobotanist
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Buahaha flushing, the "feel good routine"
I won't comment my usual bit on flushing, but I will say this.
The "I don't want to taste chemicals" crowd is very ignorant. Chemicals are all around us. The water you drink and use on your crops is a chemical. So is the air you breathe.
With that said, any and every chemical can be safe and completely toxic.
It's the dosage that matters. Other than that read the thread doc shared.
I won't comment my usual bit on flushing, but I will say this.
The "I don't want to taste chemicals" crowd is very ignorant. Chemicals are all around us. The water you drink and use on your crops is a chemical. So is the air you breathe.
With that said, any and every chemical can be safe and completely toxic.
It's the dosage that matters. Other than that read the thread doc shared.
Dr. Who
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Now for THIS, I will break my "no reply" rule and say this.
You've got to be fucking kidding me! Big Buds mag is nothing but a PROPAGANDA forum for Advanced Nutrients (more like advanced wallet drainers) to out right LIE about their products and what they do! The use of any "clearing, cleaning or flushing" agent does NOTHING but remove your money from your wallet!
Advanced Nutrients are like Politicians. They know if they repeat the LIE enough. People will begin to believe it!
AN is the lowest form of corporate life. Nothing matters but their profit!
Yes, I read the piece, I like a good comedy but, That was simply full of lies, BS and lacked actual science!
They are counting on you not to actually have understanding on just how a plant works on a scientific scale. They now baffle you with Bull Shit and scare you into using their expensive - doesn't really do anything product.....
The thread link I gave touch's on that actual science and if you click on the colored links to Riddle's research. You too can read the actual science and have a world of truth blind the lies and BS of Nutrient makers!
Do yourself a REAL favor and take the time to read FULLY, Riddles posting.....those who argued with him...well, you can tell they either didn't or are simply,,,,,,mmmm,,,,,,slow..
Doc
ha hai'm the type that needs one too wake up lmao sorry for the slow replys m8 on the famous grouse and blue cheese
A mate of mine is a black cab driver and he too has a joint for breakfast and continues all day and finishes with a joint for bed, he has been smoking like this for 20+ years..
never had an accident yet.
No worries about the replies, I too can only respond when I get time.
In my opinion, hydo grown weed is quite inferior compared to organic soil unless tinctures are used within the hydro setup from a taste point of view.
Im sorry, I dont mean to derail your thread, I will stop commenting on flushing in this thread if you like?
Dr. Who
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Oh, we're used to it!
Flushing is a major issue here.
AN is the other.
LOL
You're cool bro!
Doc
I clearly mean the taste of the nutes when smoking a joint, and it CAN have that horrible taste that I have tasted so many times.
My first Hydro grow in wilma system had a 'chemical taste' as opposed to an organic taste, which was,I think, due to harvesting without flushing (using dutch masters nutrients).
I used to grow soil before that and never flushed and never had the problem.
Also, can you tell me how much 'Ricin' is safe to take whilst it being 'toxic'?
It was just an article I posted, highlighting that there are other opinions out there.
I could have searched and posted several links, I was not promoting the site, just the information.
I flush every 4th feed with only water when I am growing (in batmix usually)
It is not scientific, its my personal choice.
I have never used a flushing agent in my life, just water.
I dont take any of the fan leaves off, if light is hitting the pots, I feel it is wasted light..
my personal choice..many growers think Im crazy and that Im wasting valuable growing energy on new shoots which yield nothing to very small immature buds.
But I like to see the fan leaves yellow right at the very end, those reserves are plant essentials in my own person opinion, I get this from water flushing for the last few days, then a couple of day starvation.
I think there is a place for science in growing, but it has nothing to do with taste, leave that to the end user.
why not try a little nitrogen fertiliser on the papers of one of your joints..see if you like the taste, or if you cant taste anything?
Isnt that what a 'scientist' would do? haha
Each to their own eh mate?
I think a world where everyone does the same thing would be quite a boring world.
Different views and opinions keep the debate lively and interesting, its when it becomes an ego issue about who is right that it can become en-flamed, in my opinion.
and thanks, your very cool too
pseudobotanist
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@The Nine
While I would advise against you ingesting ricin. There is no specific answer, the method of ingestion will play a role in the amount that becomes toxic to humans.
It can be lethal in as little as 22mcg per kg of body weight if u inhale or inject it.
Ingest it and it can be lethal around 1mg/kg of body weight
While I would advise against you ingesting ricin. There is no specific answer, the method of ingestion will play a role in the amount that becomes toxic to humans.
It can be lethal in as little as 22mcg per kg of body weight if u inhale or inject it.
Ingest it and it can be lethal around 1mg/kg of body weight