The Spiritual Implications of Salvia Divinorum
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Stoney McFried
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I saw a woman in a green hat and dress, then the world smeared.I talked about things I'll never know.
sarah22
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i have tried soooo many times to achieve astral projection thru meditation. i almost did when i was in high school...but i got scared at the last minute and it was over. i had a tingling feeling start at my feet and go up my legs...has anyone else here felt that type of thing?
Stoney McFried
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I've done astral projection...but I always tense up or go to sleep.
HotNSexyMILF
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Used to do astral projection a lot when I was a teenager- would be on the phone with people and could tell them exactly where they were and what they were doing.. I made a big mistake when I was pregnant with my daughter and 'cut myself off' from all of the psychic and 'weird' stuff because I was afraid to have it around her.. two years later now I'm struggling to get it all back...
I've smoked Normal Leaves and 10 x.
I personally can't stand salvia. As soon as it kicks in I get paranoid and I feel really guilty and stuff.
The first time I smoked a small bowl out of my bong and I just felt like needles and shit where nailing me to the chair. After that I freaked out and rushed to put all my shit away and the rest out was horrible. I thought I might have gotten unlucky on one occasion but I smoked several times after that I didn't like any of them. I've never had a full blown trip so maybe I should smoke a fat bowl of 80x or something?
I personally can't stand salvia. As soon as it kicks in I get paranoid and I feel really guilty and stuff.
The first time I smoked a small bowl out of my bong and I just felt like needles and shit where nailing me to the chair. After that I freaked out and rushed to put all my shit away and the rest out was horrible. I thought I might have gotten unlucky on one occasion but I smoked several times after that I didn't like any of them. I've never had a full blown trip so maybe I should smoke a fat bowl of 80x or something?
Hello,
this is a very interesting story. I have some experience with mushrooms and the good and evil that can come with it. I smoke grass regular, though I still don't really know if it's good or bad for my mind and spirit.
I happen to have had six years of latin classes, so I made a translation of the message written on that paper. I'm not 100% sure I translated completely correct, but it at least is much better than an online translator.
Here is the translation of the text line by line. Remarkably, the latin text grammar is completely correct and quite difficult.
Aspicio
- I see/watch
Vestri amicus est non vestri habeo
- I, a friend that is not yours (yours: plural), have possession of you (plural)
Sit unus quisnam peto verum
- I ask/demand, what may be the only truth?
Is ero vestri tantum ADMONITIO
- I shall be the only WARNING for you. (plural)
(a drawing of the indalo man)
ASPICIO
- I SEE/WATCH
The way I see it, this message is from an energy/entity that used your body as a portal during your trip to give a warning to you.
The indalo man is a symbol for the messenger of the gods, ánd for a protector against evil. And it says ´I watch´ so this could be a message from some kind of protector/guardian.
Though I do not completely understand the message, it sounds as a serious warning. The word ADMONITIO is in capitals for a reason! This message means that evil might come upon you if you keep doing that whatever you did. Dunno if it means the complete trip or the places you went in your trip.
A thing I don't really understand is the message speakes to you in plural, maybe it is speaking to you and your friends, or to users of salvia, or to you as a person in plural??
Salvia Divinorum is a drug that brings you to a complete different world, and I think it can attract good and evil entities. I never used it and am not planning to either. I used mushrooms 3 times and had very bad experience with some kind of negative energy which influenced me while I was unaware of it at first, but I was feeling negative and depressed for some months. Then I talked about this with a spiritual woman and she told me this kind of hallucinating drugs could attract bad spirits/energies. Then a series of strange events (lot of bad luck and negative things) happened to me and I got sick cos I got aware of this spirit/energy in some kind of way. It took me some weeks to figure it out and then it was gone.
What I'm trying to say is, these kind of drugs do a lot more than only physical effects on your brains, as science would say. There is more than only the physical world around us. Your message and trip is evidence for that, since you never even had latin, so this has to come from some other energy/entity.
Watch out that you don't bring evil to yourself by using this drug in the wrong way. I am not even sure hallucinating drugs can be used the right way.
Hope I helped you.
Greetings, Wolf
this is a very interesting story. I have some experience with mushrooms and the good and evil that can come with it. I smoke grass regular, though I still don't really know if it's good or bad for my mind and spirit.
I happen to have had six years of latin classes, so I made a translation of the message written on that paper. I'm not 100% sure I translated completely correct, but it at least is much better than an online translator.
Here is the translation of the text line by line. Remarkably, the latin text grammar is completely correct and quite difficult.
Aspicio
- I see/watch
Vestri amicus est non vestri habeo
- I, a friend that is not yours (yours: plural), have possession of you (plural)
Sit unus quisnam peto verum
- I ask/demand, what may be the only truth?
Is ero vestri tantum ADMONITIO
- I shall be the only WARNING for you. (plural)
(a drawing of the indalo man)
ASPICIO
- I SEE/WATCH
The way I see it, this message is from an energy/entity that used your body as a portal during your trip to give a warning to you.
The indalo man is a symbol for the messenger of the gods, ánd for a protector against evil. And it says ´I watch´ so this could be a message from some kind of protector/guardian.
Though I do not completely understand the message, it sounds as a serious warning. The word ADMONITIO is in capitals for a reason! This message means that evil might come upon you if you keep doing that whatever you did. Dunno if it means the complete trip or the places you went in your trip.
A thing I don't really understand is the message speakes to you in plural, maybe it is speaking to you and your friends, or to users of salvia, or to you as a person in plural??
Salvia Divinorum is a drug that brings you to a complete different world, and I think it can attract good and evil entities. I never used it and am not planning to either. I used mushrooms 3 times and had very bad experience with some kind of negative energy which influenced me while I was unaware of it at first, but I was feeling negative and depressed for some months. Then I talked about this with a spiritual woman and she told me this kind of hallucinating drugs could attract bad spirits/energies. Then a series of strange events (lot of bad luck and negative things) happened to me and I got sick cos I got aware of this spirit/energy in some kind of way. It took me some weeks to figure it out and then it was gone.
What I'm trying to say is, these kind of drugs do a lot more than only physical effects on your brains, as science would say. There is more than only the physical world around us. Your message and trip is evidence for that, since you never even had latin, so this has to come from some other energy/entity.
Watch out that you don't bring evil to yourself by using this drug in the wrong way. I am not even sure hallucinating drugs can be used the right way.
Hope I helped you.
Greetings, Wolf
soulflyx2k
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Astral projection is pretty scary if you have never consciously done it, but once you go through with it, you will realize it was only the fear of it that caused any fear. You have to go through Sleep Paralysis first though. It involves a ego death. Your spirit withdraws from the body and your body goes to sleep. Then you are left with the mind.
-When this SP happens, you will hear very loud ringing, buzzing, and vibrating. Need to speed up your vibration to see it =D. Then your free to do whatever.
I think the best time to do this is during a nap in the day, as its hard for me to do it at night. Just stay awake as your body falls asleep, then go through the SP process.
and your on your own then, but you can call on all sorts of "stuff"
-When this SP happens, you will hear very loud ringing, buzzing, and vibrating. Need to speed up your vibration to see it =D. Then your free to do whatever.
I think the best time to do this is during a nap in the day, as its hard for me to do it at night. Just stay awake as your body falls asleep, then go through the SP process.
and your on your own then, but you can call on all sorts of "stuff"
augiethedude
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Hi,
Im not sure if god wants us to go into the astralworld yet. But I dont know if he doesnt want us to either. Thats kind of a scary message you saw dont you think?
I wonder if it is a message from god or a warning.
Try meditating, do you see the spirtual eye? It sounds amasing but im not sure if we are ready for it yet. untill you have found soul realization.
Im not sure if god wants us to go into the astralworld yet. But I dont know if he doesnt want us to either. Thats kind of a scary message you saw dont you think?
I wonder if it is a message from god or a warning.
Try meditating, do you see the spirtual eye? It sounds amasing but im not sure if we are ready for it yet. untill you have found soul realization.
el shaggy
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In one of my salvia experiences I was seeing kaleidoscopically, The walls off the room were peeling inward. My step brother was asking me if I wanted the Xbox controller in his hand to manipulate the visualizer on the TV. I felt that the controller was the door knob, and if I would have grabbed it I would have folded this current exsistance over into another realm from the peeling walls, like turning a page. I couldn't grab that controller.... Salvia causes too much confusion, the muscle relaxant really does a job on your jaw too.
I believe the point of these substances is to get a peak or a glimpse, then to try to get back there with out the use of the substance.
I believe the point of these substances is to get a peak or a glimpse, then to try to get back there with out the use of the substance.
WILLdaBEAST
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I have experimented with saliva as well. everytime i used it, i always tried to control it which caused a 'bad trip'. the last time i did it my world started to shatter and crumble into a million pieces. i saw the world in a whole new way. i have tried my hardest to explain it. no one i know can relate to it or understands it.i could feel an overwhelming energy all around me.
before then i wasnt ever a religious type of person. now im searching for answers and my mindset has completely changed. i believe salvia truely takes you to another realm.
before then i wasnt ever a religious type of person. now im searching for answers and my mindset has completely changed. i believe salvia truely takes you to another realm.
Impulse13
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Holy shit... I've read about and read about many experience related to doing Salvia, and this one by far just blows the hell out of my mind... I am hoping to try it soon.. I WILL have sitters with me... but to be honest with everyone who reads I'm scared as hell to try it... I have never been a church going person, however I do believe in a higher power, and I believe in a soul...
I also believe in science, too, however, and that our brains are capable of millions of things that humans have yet to come to terms with... I love to write... poems.. stories... and I am sorry to say that I am one of those people with a very vivid imagination... I can describe the most beautiful landscape scene, and in contrast I can come up with the most vile, evil, barbaric, frightening, and crusem torture room ever conceived... I never do, however I know that I could...
I am scared to try Salvia... because I am scared that once I loose control and give in, who knows where my imagination will take me... but perhaps... if I'm lucky... maybe I'll be able to take control over it... we'll see...
whoa.. this stuff blows me away... crazy..
I also believe in science, too, however, and that our brains are capable of millions of things that humans have yet to come to terms with... I love to write... poems.. stories... and I am sorry to say that I am one of those people with a very vivid imagination... I can describe the most beautiful landscape scene, and in contrast I can come up with the most vile, evil, barbaric, frightening, and crusem torture room ever conceived... I never do, however I know that I could...
I am scared to try Salvia... because I am scared that once I loose control and give in, who knows where my imagination will take me... but perhaps... if I'm lucky... maybe I'll be able to take control over it... we'll see...
whoa.. this stuff blows me away... crazy..
Dislexicmidget2021
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Salvia a smoke of its own caliber.I only tryed it once and i dont think ill ever do it again.I was with 2 friends of mine and i was sitting on a red couch,i took just one good hit out of a glass bong.I held it in for a while exhaled, then put the bong down, I relaxed and then i couldnt get off the couch,i couldnt get my hands unclasped at first.Im like whoa, just chill, just chillout.Then one of my buddies sais to me ,"go get it" so i immediately get up run out to the kitchen turn on the kitchen sink and started drinking out of it, my friends laughed their asses off,It was the craziest,the quickest trip i ever took,clear across the spectrum type trip and back in 5 minutes.I thought it was some sort of other shit laced into it,but evidently not.I cant beleive they havent found a way to make it illegal yet.
I apologize about the length that it has taken me to last post.
With Salvia I have found God... but not in the traditional sense. If you use salvia as an intentional gateway....your bond with god will strengthen. It is not to be abused. God will soon start speaking to you. You will then see that a certain path has been predetermined for you. I even believe that we are the very ones that come up with this plan. It is our job on earth to follow that plan. That is why some people are happy with nothing and some are not happy with everything. God will speak to you and he will let you know exactly what to do and how to do. My advice is strengthen your bond and then let God help you be put on your life's path. A traditional bond with god is more advisable. Life's path will still come to you in this way. Salvia has the tendency to cause a little bit of insanity if overused, and i also consider it the easy way out. God wants us to be a people of character. A people that do not want us to take the easy way out. But if you are looking for answers, they are graciously answered by the hand of god with salvia. I would be here all day describing the things that god has changed in my life over the past few months. Its actually quite unbelievable. If you need any more help please let me know.
With Salvia I have found God... but not in the traditional sense. If you use salvia as an intentional gateway....your bond with god will strengthen. It is not to be abused. God will soon start speaking to you. You will then see that a certain path has been predetermined for you. I even believe that we are the very ones that come up with this plan. It is our job on earth to follow that plan. That is why some people are happy with nothing and some are not happy with everything. God will speak to you and he will let you know exactly what to do and how to do. My advice is strengthen your bond and then let God help you be put on your life's path. A traditional bond with god is more advisable. Life's path will still come to you in this way. Salvia has the tendency to cause a little bit of insanity if overused, and i also consider it the easy way out. God wants us to be a people of character. A people that do not want us to take the easy way out. But if you are looking for answers, they are graciously answered by the hand of god with salvia. I would be here all day describing the things that god has changed in my life over the past few months. Its actually quite unbelievable. If you need any more help please let me know.
mistacurious
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I don't trust this guy....I heard everything he discusses in this forum is completely for entertainment purposes and is 100% not true.
ace1059
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MEANGREEN69
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good thread....i whould like to see a pic of the paper he made while he was tripping..
Zeplike
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