Air Conditioned cool tube idea- will it work?

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kaya1

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Im deliberating buying a 1000w canatronics jet stream setup.
which can be found here
Canatronics Jet Stream Air cooled Indoor Grow Lights
Instead of just pulling hot air away from the lamp these have the advantage of drawing air from outside the grow room and shooting it past the bulb (should give more effective cooling)
In order to save on the hassle of drawing air from outside the house i thought one might be able to construct a large fairly air tight box (must have a few vents ) and place a portable air conditioner inside it. (maybe even two )
(they can be found here) Portable Air Conditioners | Portable Air Conditioner

the air must now be ducted out of this "cool box"

With the air conditioner running during the light cycle and the air being ducted out of the "cool box" straight over the lamps i think this would provide much more effective cooling. Also it would be a lot more discreet since the air exiting the cool tubes would be relatively cooler (no hot plumes of air to be seen by their thermal detectors).

I really am no expert. maybe the logistics just dont work but i got a feeling it might work. maybe someone could elaborate and improve it

what do you think?

peace and thanks
 
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BCtrippin

BCtrippin

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It would work, just dont put the a/c in an airtight box. I would just use the ac in my intake area, where I do all my intake.

If the air going into your cooltubes is colder, it will be better. Its hard to say cause I dont know how you have your setup, but I wouldnt put the AC in a box, maybe a closet or something larger with good ventilation. Even if you just point your AC output towards the intake for the aircooled hoods it will be a huge difference!

If this is your only option then it should work nicely.
 
GrowTech

GrowTech

stays relevant.
I wouldnt waste cold air by only passing it through your tube. duct the cool air into the grow room.
 
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kaya1

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nice one guys
BCtrippin said:
It would work, just dont put the a/c in an airtight box. I would just use the ac in my intake area, where I do all my intake.

If the air going into your cooltubes is colder, it will be better. Its hard to say cause I dont know how you have your setup, but I wouldnt put the AC in a box, maybe a closet or something larger with good ventilation.
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exactly! a closet would be the best idea. I could definetly see that working

GrowTech said:
I wouldnt waste cold air by only passing it through your tube. duct the cool air into the grow room.
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do you think the air would still be relatively cool (going through 1 or 2 lamps) to put it back into the grow room? or would it heat things up?





jivalst said:
I agree if you already have ac in your room then why ac the light. Just the regular ac air in the room would likely be fine for 1-1000w HID.
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you think if i acd the room it would keep the heat from a one or two 1000w away from the thermal detectors (paranoid?)? gona chek your setup

peace
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jivalst

jivalst

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I would worry so much about FLUR. That shits in the down and out. DEA has almost altogether stopped using it. I tried to find the thread but this firefighter borrowed a $15000 TI from his work and at 40ft from the exaust therewas no heat signature. He was venting out a window though and glass will seriously through off(make it unreadable) a heat sig.

2 lights probably no. your best bet would be to use the cool air in the room and then vent your lights seperately....you know your room exaust can be filtered in the same run as well.

Lets see some room pics
 
bleezyg420

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seems pointless. Ac the grow room, place the intake for the hoods down buy the ac unit and exhaust up top. This way you have a ac the does both. Cools the grow room and provides cool air for the tubes.
 
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kaya1

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bleezyg420 said:
seems pointless. Ac the grow room, place the intake for the hoods down buy the ac unit and exhaust up top. This way you have a ac the does both. Cools the grow room and provides cool air for the tubes.
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thats a good idea bro. but im thinking in a room where stale air is constantly replaced with new air the air conditioner might not work 2 well- thats why i thought of a box or a closet.... that way the closet is super cool and all the air being blown over the bulbs is chilled providing much more effective cooling
peace
 
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kaya1

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i had another quick question. if i had an air conditioner in the grow room would i need an intake fan to bring air into the grow room. i though i might not need it since the air conditioner supplies good cool air. im not sure though

peace
 
speedhabit

speedhabit

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Cool air over the lamp will be better....BASED ON WHAT?

It dosnt matter what temp air your light system is cooled with. I build and separated my lighting ventilation specifically because I wanted to ISOLATE my AC air from the bulb completely. I use warm kitchen air to cool my light and its exhausted outside as the air has no smell moving though the sealed light.

ACs cost as much as HID lights to run. Its a resource you dont want to waste, the importance of keeping your grow room at optimum temp is way way more important than spending money on cooling your light air.

What I want to make clear is you get little to no benefit for cooling your light air, assuming its a closed system. If you want to use AC'd air I would cool your grow room and exhaust air out your light and into your odor processing area. This at the very least avoids cooling then heating then dumping the air on your plants.

Also, Your air conditioner (assuming window unit) does not produce or refresh air. Window unit air conditioners (unless they have a vent switch on open)recirculate air over a cooling element. Thus you need to supply fresh air to your grow room to replenish co2 and oxygen. Conversely if you use supplemental c02 a window unit AC can cool the room without introducing new air and thus save you from wasting c02 during a cycle.

Also converting window units to run in closets dosnt work. It CAN be done but from what Iv seen the results are a waste of a good air conditioner.
 
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kaya1

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thanks for the great advice man. ive decided the whole air conditioned box thing is too much hassle and have pretty much decided to go wit fresca sol water cooled lights (alot easier i hope).

thanks and peace
 
speedhabit

speedhabit

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kaya1 said:
thanks for the great advice man. ive decided the whole air conditioned box thing is too much hassle and have pretty much decided to go wit fresca sol water cooled lights (alot easier i hope).

thanks and peace
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA AHHAHAHAHA HaAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA EASIER?!!?!! HAHAHHAHAHAHAA

Dude...air cool your lights with air...its easy and cheap.

OMFG EACH of these things costs as much as a thousand watt kit from htgsupply. Thats ballast bulbs reflector (air cooled) everything. AND IT HAS NO REFLECTOR
 
halzey68

halzey68

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i have my a/c cooling the room to about 72f. i have a carbon filter box mounted in the window< high velocity fan< "Y" duct to 2 1000w lights< cool air from inside the room from open side of light<( < is direction of air flow). having 1 side open on the hood draws bongsmiliethe warmer air from around the light as well as a good exhaust. place your fan in a sucking position, this way all the little seems in the hood are pulling warm in, not becomeing leaks for hot air to leak out when trying to "push" air through.
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NotMine

NotMine

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Noooo! come on man 1000 bulbs and water don't mix if it leaks it can explode can you say shreded plants or worse. air cool it if you can it worth the extra thought. I love basements there always cool and you have easy acess to intake or A/C tubes as long as your tubes are sealed no smell will leak into home living areas
 
speedhabit

speedhabit

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NotMine said:
Noooo! come on man 1000 bulbs and water don't mix if it leaks it can explode can you say shreded plants or worse. air cool it if you can it worth the extra thought. I love basements there always cool and you have easy acess to intake or A/C tubes as long as your tubes are sealed no smell will leak into home living areas
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No no no no no

You completely miss the point dude, the fresca sols ONLY PURPOSE IS TO COOL HID LIGHT. In fact it is a VERY EFFICIENT way to get heat away from your bulbs taking it to a place you want. It will not shatter your bulb, it will not "shred" plants".

As far as "thought" goes it takes far more to put together a working water cooling system for the frescas then it does to HVAC up a bank of air cooled hoods. USE SOME
 
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