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OddBall1st

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FauxRoux said:
So again...since your clearly an average uneducated 20 something without the ability to make a valid point or really do anything other then copy/paste shit......

And rather then discrediting your inability to communicate cause that's SOOOOOOOOOoooooooo ridiculously easy....and i mean ALi vs 2 year old easy


1. In October 1988, Donald Trump threw his wallet into the airline business by purchasing Eastern Air Shuttle, a service that for 27 years had run hourly flights between Boston, New York City and Washington, D.C. For roughly $365 million. Trump pushed to give the airline the Trump touch, making the previously no-muss, no-fuss shuttle service into a luxury experience. To this end, he added maple-wood veneer to the floors, chrome seat-belt latches and gold-colored bathroom fixtures. But his gamble was a bust. A lack of increased interest from customers (who favored the airline for its convenience not its fancy new look) combined with high pre–Gulf War fuel prices meant the shuttle never turned a profit. The high debt forced Trump to default on his loans, and ownership of the company was turned over to creditors. The Trump Shuttle ceased to exist in 1992.

2.The Donald had a vodka. Trump vodka (labeled super premium, naturally) was introduced in 2006. At the time, Trump predicted the T&T (Trump and Tonic) would become the most requested drink in America, surpassed only by the Trump Martini. The New York City blog Gothamist reports the vodka has stopped production "because the company failed to meet the threshold requirements." Trump's company filed an injunction to prevent an Israeli company from selling Trump vodka without his consent or authorization. Meaning the Donald stopped the only people in world who wanted to drink his vodka from doing so.

3,"I don't like the B word," Donald Trump said in 2010 while testifying in a New Jersey bankruptcy courtroom about his gambling company, Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc., which had filed for bankruptcy for the third time. Given the number of times Trump has flirted with bankruptcy, you'd think he'd be used to that word by now.

In 1990, the banking institutions that backed his real estate investments had to bail him out with a $65 million "rescue package" that contained new loans and credit. But it wasn't enough, and nine months later the famous developer was nearly $4 billion in debt. He didn't declare personal bankruptcy, although his famous Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, N.J., did have to file for it (bondholders ended up taking a 50% stake in the investment). Trump's economic troubles continued through the early '90s, while he was personally leveraged to nearly $1 billion. In 2004, Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts also filed for bankruptcy. The company was only a small portion of Trump's real estate empire, but he did still have to personally cough up $72 million to keep it afloat. In 2009, the same company (by then renamed Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc.) filed for bankruptcy again. Yet during all of this, no one ever told Trump, "You're fired!" Probably because no one could.

4.In April 2006, Trump announced that, after years in the real estate business, he was launching a mortgage company. He held a glitzy press conference at which his son Donald Jr. predicted that Trump Mortgage would soon be the nation's No. 1 home-loan lender. Trump told CNBC, "Who knows more about financing than me?" Apparently, plenty. Within a year and a half, Trump Mortgage had closed shop. The would-be lending powerhouse was done in by timing (the housing market cratered in 2007) and ironically enough, given Trump's Apprentice TV show, poor hiring. The executive Trump selected to run his loan company, E.J. Ridings, claimed to have been a top executive at a prestigious investment bank. In reality, Ridings' highest role on Wall Street was as a registered broker, a position he held for a mere six days.

5."The problem with our country is we don't manufacture anything anymore," Donald Trump told Fox News a year ago. "The stuff that's been sent over from China," he complained, "falls apart after a year and a half. It's crap." That very same Donald Trump has his own line of clothing, and it's made in ... China. (O.K., O.K. — not all of it. Salon, which reported this intriguing, head-scratching fact, notes that some of his apparel is from Mexico and Bangladesh.)

6.When recently discussing oil prices on air with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, Donald Trump blustered on about the scheming malfeasance of OPEC and the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Trump insisted the U.S. could leverage its military supremacy to persuade OPEC to lower prices. In his words: "I'm going to look 'em in the eye and say, 'Fellas, you'd have your fun. Your fun is over.'" But this rather naive suggestion of bullying one of the U.S.'s most longstanding and essential allies in the Middle East — not to mention the recent customer in a megabillion-dollar U.S. weapons sale that would create tens of thousands of American jobs — was comparatively harmless when set against his next suggestion. Trump bemoaned U.S. costs sustained during its wars in the Middle East and floated the idea of "taking" Iraqi oil. Stephanopoulos countered incredulously, "So, we steal an oil field?" Trump responded, "Excuse me. You're not stealing anything. You're taking — we're reimbursing ourselves." Given how many U.S. leaders have had to stress to their Middle East interlocutors that they're not in it simply for the oil, Trump would be starting off regional relations on pretty slippery ground.

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Refute even 1 of these.

So....where would you like to start? Asshat
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I turned over the page and there lies another list of six,..

It`s not as long with fancy wording,...

1) Was gifted a Nobel peace prize.

2) Sold out a perfect Health Care solution for a scam filled market exchange.

3) Called the cops racists and apologized at a "Beer Summit"

4) Selected Hillary Clinton as SEC/DEF

5) Wont stop Vladimir Putin from utilizing my strategies.

6) Created a Nuclear Arms Race in the Middle East after gifting Iran a Thermonuclear solution to it`s National Weaponry.



The list from Hilary got deleted so,.......

I`ll take Trump because personal business highs and lows wont be a factor in my decision.

Did you know GITMO is still there ?
 
FauxRoux

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god1 said:
Just curious:

1) do you know if Trump has any positive business accomplishments?
2) is the dude is a net negative or positive as a business guy?
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I suppose that depends on how you look at it.

As has already been pointed out (and to the best of my knowledge) he started his business career by being handed millions from his father rather than being a brilliant investor as he would like people to believe .

I believe his initial investments with the money from his father was spent in real estate. Which if you look at the history of from new york in the 80's is appaling and morally bankrupt. Basically he takes risks with other peoples money...if he fails the investors lose...if he doesnt he makes a mint. He IS the definition of big buisness that bribes and corrupts our politicians (as he freely brags about for gods sake). Rebulicans complain about politicians that are bought and sold by private monay and then somehow think it makes sense to elect a president that admits HE was 1 of the guys doing the buying. Brilliant!

so...has he made money? Without doubt. With a combination of inheritance....the general publics naivete of his ability to self-promote...and government help.
 
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Padawanbater2

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1) Was gifted a Nobel peace prize.

"The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html

2) Sold out a perfect Health Care solution for a scam filled market exchange.

Blame Romney and the GOP controlled Senate, the dems wanted single payer

3) Called the cops racists and apologized at a "Beer Summit"

"On July 16, 2009, Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr., was arrested at his Cambridge, Massachusetts home by local police officer Sgt. James Crowley, who was responding to a 9-1-1 caller's report of men breaking and entering the residence. The arrest initiated a series of events that unfolded under the spotlight of the international news media.

The arrest occurred just after Gates returned home to Cambridge after a trip to China to research the ancestry of Yo-Yo Ma for Faces of America. Gates found the front door to his home jammed shut and with the help of his driver tried to force it open. A local witness reported their activity to the police as a potential burglary in progress. Accounts regarding the ensuing confrontation differ, but Gates was arrested by the responding officer, Cambridge Police Sgt. James Crowley, and charged with disorderly conduct. On July 21, the charges against Gates were dropped. The arrest generated a national debate about whether or not it represented an example of racial profiling by police.

On July 22, President Barack Obama said about the incident, "I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home, and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately.""

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates_arrest_controversy#.22Beer_Summit.22

6) Created a Nuclear Arms Race in the Middle East after gifting Iran a Thermonuclear solution to it`s National Weaponry.

Except the Iran Nuclear deal does exactly the opposite and ensures Iran doesn't pursue building a nuclear weapon for 10 years

You're straight up lying with this one
I`ll take Trump because personal business highs and lows wont be a factor in my decision.
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That's because you're stupid
 
OddBall1st

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Padawanbater2 said:
Trump has admitted to bribing politicians in the past for business and tax breaks, how is he not completely intertwined into the system just as much as any other politician bought by campaign donors?

Sanders on the other hand, hasn't taken any contributions from any super PACs or big business donors and has a tax plan that benefits the poor and middle-class
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Because Trump is not a politician, in the instances you bring, he`s not the pimp, he`s the guy fucking the whore.
 
OddBall1st

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FauxRoux said:
I suppose that depends on how you look at it.

As has already been pointed out (and to the best of my knowledge) he started his business career by being handed millions from his father rather than being a brilliant investor as he would like people to believe .

I believe his initial investments with the money from his father was spent in real estate. Which if you look at the history of from new york in the 80's is appaling and morally bankrupt. Basically he takes risks with other peoples money...if he fails the investors lose...if he doesnt he makes a mint. He IS the definition of big buisness that bribes and corrupts our politicians (as he freely brags about for gods sake). Rebulicans complain about politicians that are bought and sold by private monay and then somehow think it makes sense to elect a president that admits HE was 1 of the guys doing the buying. Brilliant!

so...has he made money? Without doubt. With a combination of inheritance....the general publics naivete of his ability to self-promote...and government help.
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If you start with a quarter dollar and fail or you start with a billion dollars and fail,....you still fail.

If you start with a quarter dollar and succeed or you start with a billion dollars and succeed, you are a success.

Donald isn`t broke and is a front runner for POTUS.
 
bearkat42

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OddBall1st said:
If you start with a quarter dollar and fail or you start with a billion dollars and fail,....you still fail.

If you start with a quarter dollar and succeed or you start with a billion dollars and succeed, you are a success.

Donald isn`t broke and is a front runner for POTUS.
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So is Ben Carson.
 
OddBall1st

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Padawanbater2 said:
1) Was gifted a Nobel peace prize.

"The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world's leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama's appeal that "Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html

2) Sold out a perfect Health Care solution for a scam filled market exchange.

Blame Romney and the GOP controlled Senate, the dems wanted single payer

3) Called the cops racists and apologized at a "Beer Summit"

"On July 16, 2009, Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr., was arrested at his Cambridge, Massachusetts home by local police officer Sgt. James Crowley, who was responding to a 9-1-1 caller's report of men breaking and entering the residence. The arrest initiated a series of events that unfolded under the spotlight of the international news media.

The arrest occurred just after Gates returned home to Cambridge after a trip to China to research the ancestry of Yo-Yo Ma for Faces of America. Gates found the front door to his home jammed shut and with the help of his driver tried to force it open. A local witness reported their activity to the police as a potential burglary in progress. Accounts regarding the ensuing confrontation differ, but Gates was arrested by the responding officer, Cambridge Police Sgt. James Crowley, and charged with disorderly conduct. On July 21, the charges against Gates were dropped. The arrest generated a national debate about whether or not it represented an example of racial profiling by police.

On July 22, President Barack Obama said about the incident, "I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home, and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately.""

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates_arrest_controversy#.22Beer_Summit.22

6) Created a Nuclear Arms Race in the Middle East after gifting Iran a Thermonuclear solution to it`s National Weaponry.

Except the Iran Nuclear deal does exactly the opposite and ensures Iran doesn't pursue building a nuclear weapon for 10 years

You're straight up lying with this one

That's because you're stupid
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Paddy, you know bette , no you don`t sorry.

1) After one of his four guaranteed years, turns out to be 8, and Gitmo is still there. Don`t worry though Paddy, you can keep your doctor.

2) Obama sampled and reused Romney`s Mass Health, yes, Romney fucked it up for everybody,...No.

3) The good Professor was arrested while the cops were leaving,...After the matter was settled. How little you know.

6) Iran will buy nothing from the USA, there`s your gifted solution. STFU about time, it has no relevance.

The Arms race has nothing as well to do with Iran, because you don`t read shit.

Pakistan has already sold ready to use HOT weapons of at least med. Yield to Saudi Arabia because the US cannot ensure their protection from Iran, they are practically next door. Pakistan used it`s already locked up sponsorship right after the US did with Iran. Egypt is gonna need something. Kuwait will also need something,...

10 years huh Paddy........stupid and lying too,....You didn`t even understand #6 at all.
 
Padawanbater2

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OddBall1st said:
Paddy, you know bette , no you don`t sorry.

1) After one of his four guaranteed years, turns out to be 8, and Gitmo is still there. Don`t worry though Paddy, you can keep your doctor.

2) Obama sampled and reused Romney`s Mass Health, yes, Romney fucked it up for everybody,...No.

3) The good Professor was arrested while the cops were leaving,...After the matter was settled. How little you know.

6) Iran will buy nothing from the USA, there`s your gifted solution. STFU about time, it has no relevance.

The Arms race has nothing as well to do with Iran, because you don`t read shit.

Pakistan has already sold ready to use HOT weapons of at least med. Yield to Saudi Arabia because the US cannot ensure their protection from Iran, they are practically next door. Pakistan used it`s already locked up sponsorship right after the US did with Iran. Egypt is gonna need something. Kuwait will also need something,...

10 years huh Paddy........stupid and lying too,....You didn`t even understand #6 at all.
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TL;DGAF

Suck my balls
 
Padawanbater2

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OddBall1st said:
Sure he does, those puppeteers have no way to attach to him,...he`s not there yet. That`s like Barry smoke`n weed and not legalizing it.
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Suck Trump's dick because it's cast in gold all you want, he won't be president, and your anus will suffer through 8 more years, at least, of a democratic presidency

You have 8 years to get your shit together

Pull the same shit as you did the past decade and you might as well fuckin' gift wrap the 2024 election today

Dumbasses with big mouths who don't know shit about history are my favorite to argue with because they're always wrong!
 
OddBall1st

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Corso312 said:
That's nuts... If you have 25 cents ..you swing n miss...you are done... If you have a quarter billion.. You can swing n miss for a decade n still be a multi millionaire. Awful analogy
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No because you can trace back to what dad started with and How you gonna blame dad for passing the torch to son ?

One buys bubble gum and the other buys land,...both are investing.
 
OddBall1st

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Padawanbater2 said:
Suck Trump's dick because it's cast in gold all you want, he won't be president, and your anus will suffer through 8 more years, at least, of a democratic presidency

You have 8 years to get your shit together

Pull the same shit as you did the past decade and you might as well fuckin' gift wrap the 2024 election today

Dumbasses with big mouths who don't know shit about history are my favorite to argue with because they're always wrong!
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So suck your balls and every name in the book,...Obviously not chill`n by the pool with a bowl of cool staring at the chicks,.. What happened to you,...get splash back from the toilet or something ??
 
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