So what do we do now with the "refugees"?

Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Not GOP said:
A bill passed the house today stopping the Syrian refugees from coming to America. Obama of course will veto, but it puts Republicans on record as opposing it. That was a smart play. Maybe Paul Ryan won't be completely ineffective as speaker after all. We'll soon see
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Googling.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Flaming Pie said:
Anyone know if this is a reputable source?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-cause-of-the-sudden-syrian-migrant-refugee-crisis-into-europe-the-role-of-turkey/5483642
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how hard is this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky

A 2005 article in The Jewish Tribune criticized the Centre for Research on Globalization's website as "rife with anti-Jewish conspiracy theory and Holocaust denial." Michel Chossudovsky responded that he is of Jewish heritage and would be one of the last people to condone antisemitic views.[18] The same article also reported that B'nai B'rith Canada wrote a letter to the University of Ottawa asking for the university "to conduct its own investigation of this propagandist site."[18]

In a 2006 Western Standard article by Terry O'Neill, Chossudovsky was included among "Canada's nuttiest professors", "whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues" and who were "peddling half-baked or discredited theories or plain old bigotry".[19] Chussodovsky was said to hold that the U.S. had fore-knowledge of the September 11 attacks and the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami; that Washington had weapons that could influence climate change; and that the large banking institutions are the cause of the collapse of smaller economies, characterised by O'Neill as " more like wild-eyed conspiracy theories than serious political discourse".[19]





so no.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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The_Herban_Legend said:
Is that so? And what language did you guys speak during this delightful conversation? Wait! Let me guess... sign language?
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are you one of those stupid american types who assumes that because most americans are monoglots, that so is the rest of the world?

you are stupid. most of the rest of the world learns more than one language.

a less stupid person would know this. but not you.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Flaming Pie said:
Very interesting read. Some suspicion that the leader of turkey, who is a member of NATO and it's second most powerful military nation, could of created this Syrian migration of refugees.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/18/turkey-cut-islamic-state-supply-lines-erdogan-isis
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Quote from that article:

Not only has Erdoğan done almost everything he can to cripple the forces actually fighting Isis; there is considerable evidence that his government has been at least tacitly aiding Isis itself.

It might seem outrageous to suggest that a Nato member like Turkey would in any way support an organisation that murders western civilians in cold blood. That would be like a Nato member supporting al-Qaida. But in fact there is reason to believe that Erdoğan’s government does support the Syrian branch of al-Qaida (Jabhat al-Nusra)too, along with any number of other rebel groups that share its conservative Islamist ideology. The Institute for the Study of Human Rights at Columbia University hascompiled a long list of evidence of Turkish support for Isis in Syria.
 
OddBall1st

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We have a book of do`s and do not`s covering refugees from our war or other`s wars.

Why that is not followed,...Votes, Muslim votes,

.. Democrats at work for you in election year.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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Flaming Pie said:
Quote from that article:

Not only has Erdoğan done almost everything he can to cripple the forces actually fighting Isis; there is considerable evidence that his government has been at least tacitly aiding Isis itself.

It might seem outrageous to suggest that a Nato member like Turkey would in any way support an organisation that murders western civilians in cold blood. That would be like a Nato member supporting al-Qaida. But in fact there is reason to believe that Erdoğan’s government does support the Syrian branch of al-Qaida (Jabhat al-Nusra)too, along with any number of other rebel groups that share its conservative Islamist ideology. The Institute for the Study of Human Rights at Columbia University hascompiled a long list of evidence of Turkish support for Isis in Syria.
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It`s no secret that Turkey is supplying the routes needed for vehicles and people to Syria. Without the NATO base in Turkey, it would be in ruins by now. When Putin builds his Navy Base in Syria, the NATO base in Turkey will be downsized greatly or moved altogether.

Damn that post took long.....................thanx buck.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Flaming Pie said:
Quote from that article:

Not only has Erdoğan done almost everything he can to cripple the forces actually fighting Isis; there is considerable evidence that his government has been at least tacitly aiding Isis itself.

It might seem outrageous to suggest that a Nato member like Turkey would in any way support an organisation that murders western civilians in cold blood. That would be like a Nato member supporting al-Qaida. But in fact there is reason to believe that Erdoğan’s government does support the Syrian branch of al-Qaida (Jabhat al-Nusra)too, along with any number of other rebel groups that share its conservative Islamist ideology. The Institute for the Study of Human Rights at Columbia University hascompiled a long list of evidence of Turkish support for Isis in Syria.
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Ending of the same article. Holy shit

The exact relationship between Erdoğan’s government and Isis may be subject to debate; but of some things we can be relatively certain. Had Turkey placed the same kind of absolute blockade on Isis territories as they did on Kurdish-held parts of Syria, let alone shown the same sort of “benign neglect” towards the PKK and YPG that they have been offering to Isis, that blood-stained “caliphate” would long since have collapsed – and arguably, the Paris attacks may never have happened. And if Turkey were to do the same today, Isis would probably collapse in a matter of months. Yet, has a single western leader called on Erdoğan to do this?

The next time you hear one of those politicians declaring the need to crack down on civil liberties or immigrant rights because of the need for absolute “war” against terrorism bear all this in mind. Their resolve is exactly as “absolute” as it is politically convenient. Turkey, after all, is a “strategic ally”. So after their declaration, they are likely to head off to share a friendly cup of tea with the very man who makes it possible for Isis to continue to exist.
 
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woody333333

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Flaming Pie said:
The vote was 289-137, with 47 Democrats joining 242 Republicans in favor of the bill, creating a majority that could override President Barack Obama's promised veto. It also faces an uncertain future in the Senate, where Minority Leader Harry Reid said he will try to block the bill.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/19/politics/house-democrats-refugee-hearings-obama/index.html?eref=rss_politics
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I watched that today.... Republicans were complaining there's not enough christian refugees.... And one of those idiots says Isis has killed two million Christians in Syria
 
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ChesusRice

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woody333333 said:
I watched that today.... Republicans were complaining there's not enough christian refugees.... And one of those idiots says Isis has killed two million Christians in Syria
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Christian, muslim, pastafarian
Don't care. If you cant vet them they don't get to come
 
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