So what do we do now with the "refugees"?

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ChesusRice

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Flaming Pie said:
Kosovo

The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances is a political agreement signed in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994, providing security assurances by its signatories relating to Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The Memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers, the Russian Federation, the United States of America, and the United Kingdom. Chinaand France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[1]

The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, as well as those ofBelarus and Kazakhstan. As a result, Ukraine gave up the world's third largest nuclear weapons stockpile between 1994 and 1996,[2][3] of which Ukraine had physical if not operational control

Give us all your nukes in exchange for protection was the aggreement.
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I'm sorry. Can you provide a link showing Ukraine in NATO?
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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pnwmystery said:
@MuyLocoNC though I do have to point out terrorism isn't isolated to Muslims of Middle Eastern origin. Just look at the 2011 Norway attacks when self described Christian crusader Anders Breivik murdered 77 people and injured at least 319 more.
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Yeah, crazy is crazy, regardless to which flavor of religion the zealot ascribes. I'm just checking to make sure Cruz is accurate in his claim.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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ChesusRice said:
I just got home from work and read the Budapest agreement.
We Promised not to ATTACK Ukraine. That is it.
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Russia was one of the signatories.

They promised to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine and then invaded Ukraine because they didn't like them joining nato.

Russia doesn't want the Ukraine in nato. Russia is the only thing stopping that country from becoming a democratic nation in NATO.

Russia violated their agreement with the Ukraine and could plow them over at any moment to because Ukraine defenses are outdated.

NATO says Russia is being bad but is not trying to get them to stop.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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Elwood Diggler said:
ben carson is a lying idiot. he's gotta be the only retard on the planet who thinks the ukraine could have joined nato and not had russia roll over them.

they were not and never will be a nato member for fuck sakes
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False. Nato wants to accept them in all except Russia. Unfortunately all nations have to agree to let a nation in.

They could of joined years ago but Russia didn't want a neighbor to be nato.
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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ChesusRice said:
I just got home from work and read the Budapest agreement.
We Promised not to ATTACK Ukraine. That is it.
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I will read the actual documents when I get a chance as well.

Ben Carson could have been wrong about this. I am not taking that off the table.

I need to look into what NATO is doing with France's request tomorrow.
 
Elwood Diggler

Elwood Diggler

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Flaming Pie said:
False. Nato wants to accept them in all except Russia. Unfortunately all nations have to agree to let a nation in.

They could of joined years ago but Russia didn't want a neighbor to be nato.
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you want to go to war with russia over the ukraine? the only reason nato would want them is to poke putin in the eye. stupid fucking reason and no way is russia going along with it
 
Flaming Pie

Flaming Pie

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a mongo frog said:
I love the new refugees. Got the opportunity to meet some today!!!! Nicest people you ever done met.
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The new refugees? Speak plainly,wise rabbit, for i think my ears doth deceive me.

Duck I'm high. Night folks. To be continued I hope.

Chesus, thanks for playing fair.
 
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ChesusRice

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Flaming Pie said:
I will read the actual documents when I get a chance as well.

Ben Carson could have been wrong about this. I am not taking that off the table.

I need to look into what NATO is doing with France's request tomorrow.
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Ben Carson is not only wrong he is a liar as well
 
Not GOP

Not GOP

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A bill passed the house today stopping the Syrian refugees from coming to America. Obama of course will veto, but it puts Republicans on record as opposing it. That was a smart play. Maybe Paul Ryan won't be completely ineffective as speaker after all. We'll soon see
 
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