another right wing white male goes on rampage of terrorism in colorado

[Padawanbater2]

Does it disturb you to know that situation only exists because a corporation like Walmart is a government construct and is provided protection by government ?

That's an example of one coercion based monopoly (your beloved government) creating the template for and enabling a problem which you then expect them to solve. More gasoline for your fire extinguishing efforts sir?

Not at all, definition of and protection of private property requires government

That situation exists because Walmart doesn't pay their employees a high enough wage

 

[ChesusRice]

You seem a little more dickish than normal today, did you caught petting your german shepherds in their private areas again ?

Your repertoire of insults is a little stale too, could you please get a little more creative ? Thanks.

Why dont you just answer a simple question.
Can a child of 13 consent to sex with an adult?
Yes or no?

 

[Rob Roy]

Not at all, definition of and protection of private property requires government

That situation exists because Walmart doesn't pay their employees a high enough wage

You are claiming a symptom is the same as the cause and further you think more intervention by the entity which caused the problem will somehow solve the problem.

Have you ever wondered why inflation occurs ? Ever wondered how much business would occur if it were ALLOWED to ? How many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop? Why the chicken crossed the road?

 

[Rob Roy]

Why dont you just answer a simple question.
Can a child of 13 consent to sex with an adult?
Yes or no?

That all depends. For a person or being able to consent to anything, they'd need to possess the wherewithal to consent. I know German Shepherds are smart dogs, but I'm thinking you may have stepped over the line with them.

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

Not at all, definition of and protection of private property requires government

That situation exists because Walmart doesn't pay their employees a high enough wage

Private property has existed since man has, there wasn't always government to interfere in the lives of people. The situation exists because WalMart knows how to manipulate the system like every other entity using the poor people to make themselves rich. Pay their employees more? How has that helped the economy so far? (since they started doing that over the past 2 years). Prices of goods continue to rise at a rate much higher than inflation, of wages that is.

 

[Padawanbater2]

You are claiming a symptom is the same as the cause and further you think more intervention by the entity which caused the problem will somehow solve the problem.

Have you ever wondered why inflation occurs ? Ever wondered how much business would occur if it were ALLOWED to ? How many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop? Why the chicken crossed the road?

The problem is low wages, Rob, who's in charge of raising the minimum wage? Without a minimum wage, I can assure you, Walmart and indeed probably most other businesses would be paying much lower wages than they are now which would exacerbate the problem many times over

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

The problem is low wages, Rob, who's in charge of raising the minimum wage? Without a minimum wage, I can assure you, Walmart and indeed probably most other businesses would be paying much lower wages than they are now which would exacerbate the problem many times over

walmart already pays more than the minimum wage, they raised it to all their employees over the past 2 years. the poor people are paying for it

 

[Padawanbater2]

Private property has existed since man has, there wasn't always government to interfere in the lives of people. The situation exists because WalMart knows how to manipulate the system like every other entity using the poor people to make themselves rich. Pay their employees more? How has that helped the economy so far? (since they started doing that over the past 2 years). Prices of goods continue to rise at a rate much higher than inflation, of wages that is.

Property that is private has always existed, yeah, you're right, but that's different from 'private property'. Private property requires government. Who's to say who owns what without a central governing authority? What if you say you own your house, but I also say I own it?

With higher wages, more people have expendable money which means they can buy things and circulate that money throughout the economy. What's happening now is all the economic benefits from increased productivity, longer hours and less benefits has gone to 1% of the population - who, incidentally pay the least percentage of income taxes than those much less well off - and as billionaire entrepreneur Nick Hanauer says, there are only so many pairs of jeans he needs, only so many haircuts he will buy, billionaires don't buy 300 pairs of jeans just because they're billionaires, they buy the same amount you do. So the concentration of wealth remains stagnant in a few hands instead of being used by the bigger bloc of poor and middle-class people to generate growth.

"Capitalism presents crisis' of surplus, not shortage" -Marx

 

[Padawanbater2]

walmart already pays more than the minimum wage, they raised it to all their employees over the past 2 years. the poor people are paying for it

Inflation does not rise faster than wages. So using a cost/benefit analysis, any marginal rises in price are offset by the benefits of the wage increase

Check this out, first graph is the rate of inflation;

Second graph is the history of the minimum wage;

According to your claim, both of those graphs should roughly mirror each other, inflation should rise when the minimum wage rises, everything else equal, right?

But it fluctuates throughout the 1940s and mid-1950s, gradually rises until 1980, then drops and stays relatively constant into the 2000s. So according to the data, there is little to no correlation between the minimum wage and the rate of inflation

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

Property that is private has always existed, yeah, you're right, but that's different from 'private property'. Private property requires government. Who's to say who owns what without a central governing authority? What if you say you own your house, but I also say I own it?

With higher wages, more people have expendable money which means they can buy things and circulate that money throughout the economy. What's happening now is all the economic benefits from increased productivity, longer hours and less benefits has gone to 1% of the population - who, incidentally pay the least percentage of income taxes than those much less well off - and as billionaire entrepreneur Nick Hanauer says, there are only so many pairs of jeans he needs, only so many haircuts he will buy, billionaires don't buy 300 pairs of jeans just because they're billionaires, they buy the same amount you do. So the concentration of wealth remains stagnant in a few hands instead of being used by the bigger bloc of poor and middle-class people to generate growth.

"Capitalism presents crisis' of surplus, not shortage" -Marx

Then go tell the zulu tribesmen that their spear is yours and see how fast you have the spear....through your head. The government comes in and taxes the spear then takes the zulu tribesman to jail for not complying with their laws. What about his private property? Thanks government!

There isn't going to be a change in the way the system works. The harder you work, the less you get paid. No amount of crying or picketing is going to fix it. Just bend over and take it already.

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

Inflation does not rise faster than wages. So using a cost/benefit analysis, any marginal rises in price are offset by the benefits of the wage increase

Check this out, first graph is the rate of inflation;

Second graph is the history of the minimum wage;

According to your claim, both of those graphs should roughly mirror each other, inflation should rise when the minimum wage rises, everything else equal, right?

But it fluctuates throughout the 1940s and mid-1950s, gradually rises until 1980, then drops and stays relatively constant into the 2000s. So according to the data, there is little to no correlation between the minimum wage and the rate of inflation

I never said minimum wage had anything to do with inflation. In fact, I was talking about the prices of goods versus the inflation of my wage (just a way to say my yearly raise in different words). The average yearly raise is 2%, well below the latest uptick of food costs which is much higher than 2%.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Then go tell the zulu tribesmen that their spear is yours and see how fast you have the spear....through your head. The government comes in and taxes the spear then takes the zulu tribesman to jail for not complying with their laws. What about his private property? Thanks government!

There isn't going to be a change in the way the system works. The harder you work, the less you get paid. No amount of crying or picketing is going to fix it. Just bend over and take it already.

If I can simply take something of yours because I'm bigger or stronger than you and you can't do anything about it, how can you define that as "private property" you "own"? What gives you ownership over something, because you have possession of it right now?

 

[pnwmystery]

Inflation does not rise faster than wages. So using a cost/benefit analysis, any marginal rises in price are offset by the benefits of the wage increase

Check this out, first graph is the rate of inflation;

Second graph is the history of the minimum wage;

According to your claim, both of those graphs should roughly mirror each other, inflation should rise when the minimum wage rises, everything else equal, right?

But it fluctuates throughout the 1940s and mid-1950s, gradually rises until 1980, then drops and stays relatively constant into the 2000s. So according to the data, there is little to no correlation between the minimum wage and the rate of inflation

You're just going to confuse him with facts.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I never said minimum wage had anything to do with inflation. In fact, I was talking about the prices of goods versus the inflation of my wage (just a way to say my yearly raise in different words). The average yearly raise is 2%, well below the latest uptick of food costs which is much higher than 2%.

You have identified the problem. I once received a $.12 "raise"

Low wages is the problem

 

[SamsonsRiddle]

You have identified the problem. I once received a $.12 "raise"

Low wages is the problem

Raising minimum wage won't fix it. period.

 

[Rob Roy]

The problem is low wages, Rob, who's in charge of raising the minimum wage? Without a minimum wage, I can assure you, Walmart and indeed probably most other businesses would be paying much lower wages than they are now which would exacerbate the problem many times over

I'm afraid your understanding of supply and demand is somewhat lacking. When prices rise (the price of labor) the demand for that labor may lessen, causing the opposite of what you wish for...unemployment... for some as their jobs are eliminated. Nobody is going to pay $15 an hour to somebody that only produces $10 an hour and stay in business very long.

Low wages are only low in a relative sense.... You can thank your beloved government for inflation and causing housing artificial housing shortages which causes a higher percent of a wage earners money to go for basic needs.

I do like that you used the word exacerbate though.

 

[ChesusRice]

I'm afraid your understanding of supply and demand is somewhat lacking. When prices rise (the price of labor) the demand for that labor may lessen, causing the opposite of what you wish for...unemployment... for some as their jobs are eliminated. Nobody is going to pay $15 an hour to somebody that only produces $10 an hour and stay in business very long.

Low wages are only low in a relative sense.... You can thank your beloved government for inflation and causing housing artificial housing shortages which causes a higher percent of a wage earners money to go for basic needs.

I do like that you used the word exacerbate though.

Get off my land.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I'm afraid your understanding of supply and demand is somewhat lacking. When prices rise (the price of labor) the demand for that labor may lessen, causing the opposite of what you wish for...unemployment... for some as their jobs are eliminated. Nobody is going to pay $15 an hour to somebody that only produces $10 an hour and stay in business very long.

Low wages are only low in a relative sense.... You can thank your beloved government for inflation and causing housing artificial housing shortages which causes a higher percent of a wage earners money to go for basic needs.

I do like that you used the word exacerbate though.

When wages rise, people have more disposable income, when people have more disposable income they buy things, when they buy things businesses make more money, when businesses make more money, they hire more people to meet the demand

 

[Padawanbater2]

Raising minimum wage won't fix it. period.

Why not?

 

[Rob Roy]

Direct question to you rob roy.
Can a 13 year old consent to sex with an adult?
Yes or no?

If a person has the wherewithal to consent to things, what would the specific act(s) they consent to or don't consent to have to do with whether or not that person CAN or CANNOT consent?

Let's say your neighbor owns a dog and you consent to letting it chase a ball in your yard. We could say you then have the wherewithal to consent to actions pertaining to the dog and your property.

Now, let's say the dog starts humping your leg and you enthusiastically consent to that heinous act, how does the nature of your engaging in a consensual, yet heinous act with your neighbor's dog, change the fact that you possess the wherewithal to consent to the leg humping?

Now for the record, while I'm not in favor of you humping the leg of a 13 year old dog, I can see how you'd feel cheated if you didn't get your turn.