Padawanbater2
Well-Known Member
The anti-gun control crowd seems to be set on one issue - mental health care - and while I agree, as I said before, that's a big part of it, there are other factors to include, and the access to and prevalence of guns in the United States is a big part of it too.If you don't like the Bill of Rights, then perhaps it would be best to pack your bags and move to Australia. It's obviously your personal utopia. If gun ownership were a problem, then a country such as Switzerland would be a failed state. The fact that you're so set on one variable (guns) only shows that you're incapable of grasping how complex problems have complex solutions. There are many variables, yet you focus on one.
Ironic enough, the country you're most likely to be killed by a gun in Europe is... Switzerland
Left chart = Country by gun ownership, Middle = Homicide rate by country, Right = Homicide Rate (by lowest)
Squared in red = Countries that make both lists
What do you notice? All of them are in Europe with some of the strongest gun-control laws in the world. What do you notice about this list;
The vast majority of them are in South and Central America where they have some of the weakest gun-control in laws in the world
What are the gun-control laws in Hong Kong?
"Gun ownership in Hong Kong and Macau is tightly controlled and possession is mainly in the hands of law enforcement, military, and private security firms (providing protection for jewelers and banks). Still, possessing, manufacturing and import/exporting airsoft guns with a muzzle energy not above two joules of kinetic energy is legal to citizens in China's SARs. Under the Section 13 of Cap 238 Firearms and Ammunition Ordinance of the Hong Kong law, unrestricted firearms and ammunition requires a licence, and those found in possession without a licence could be fined HKD$100,000 and imprisonment for up to 14 years.
A licence is issued to people who aren't mentally ill or a felon after a rigorous process. Explosives and fully automatics are the only firearms that appear prohibited. Other firearms may be stored at home in a locked box, but ammunition must be kept on a different premise."
Nobody wants to "take away your guns" or your right to own a gun. The data shows it's clear Europe is doing something right and South and Central America, along with the United States is not. Europeans can own guns without killing each other in vast numbers, and for many different reasons we can't. Those reasons include a combination of a lack of quality and/or accessible mental health care, the access to and prevalence of guns in society, poverty and socio-economic status, among others.
If we don't fix it now, rest assured, somebody else will as the frequency of attacks continue, and when that happens you won't have much of a choice about it at all