San Bernardino

OddBall1st

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You're missing the point, as usual.

How do you suppose you get all the illegal handguns off the street if countries with near gun bans can't do the same?

How does disarming law abiding people work with people who have no concern for the law anyway?

A lot of the time the gun is legally purchased in one State, Brought to another, reported stolen or just sold to someone on the streets. The bad guys usually get the gun from someone that can just go get one legally.

Checks on these people can revel what they were up to, for instance a guy keeps reporting guns stolen or cannot account for his weapons. Right now those checks are lenient and maybe too much.

Nothing will stop it, but better legislations can reduce it. Obama was correct when he stated that guns are too easy to get.

Being able to sell a gun and have no recording of it is stupid.
 

Harrekin

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A lot of the time the gun is legally purchased in one State, Brought to another, reported stolen or just sold to someone on the streets. The bad guys usually get the gun from someone that can just go get one legally.

Checks on these people can revel what they were up to, for instance a guy keeps reporting guns stolen or cannot account for his weapons. Right now those checks are lenient and maybe too much.

Nothing will stop it, but better legislations can reduce it. Obama was correct when he stated that guns are too easy to get.

Being able to sell a gun and have no recording of it is stupid.
And if you ban all handguns, people will import crates of them from elsewhere to sell illegally.

Handguns are totally banned here with very very few exceptions...

What are 80%+ of gun crimes committed with?

Handguns.
 

pnwmystery

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Do they not have the same inalienable rights?

Or do you want the Supreme Court to start ruling on things like the First Amendment too?

The 4th?
Harrekin, it's staggering how much you think you know yet how little you actually do sometimes. And you've called me an idiot? SCOTUS has had over a hundred 1st Amendment cases. About 20-30 regarding the establishment of religion, 20 about the freedom to practice, about 50 over free speech, 20 over freedom of press, and 10 over the right of association. Regarding the 4th amendment there've been, I don't know, somewhere in the avenue of 40-50 cases.
 

OddBall1st

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And if you ban all handguns, people will import crates of them from elsewhere to sell illegally.

Handguns are totally banned here with very very few exceptions...

What are 80%+ of gun crimes committed with?

Handguns.

Why do you add banning guns to what I post ?
 

Harrekin

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Harrekin, it's staggering how much you think you know yet how little you actually do sometimes. And you've called me an idiot? SCOTUS has had over a hundred 1st Amendment cases. About 20-30 regarding the establishment of religion, 20 about the freedom to practice, about 50 over free speech, 20 over freedom of press, and 10 over the right of association. Regarding the 4th amendment there've been, I don't know, somewhere in the avenue of 40-50 cases.
Im well aware of that, the point I was making was do you want them ruling on every populist thing to pass their desks?
 

schuylaar

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Calling all Canadians.. @heckler73 @sunni ..with all the talk about limiting immigration to the US.. isn't it true that Canada will not allow you in if you have so much as a felony on your record?
 

whitebb2727

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A complete AR is $1000+, though at times they can be had for 500-750, or less for the lesser models of M forgeries.
If you can muster up the bank roll you'd be better off dealing with ex soviets, or Africans. That is if they don't kill you for lulz and take selfies with your corpse.
I can buy or build an ar with chrome chamber and hammer forged barrel for less than 400.

There are tier 1,2, and 3 manufacturers that make all ar parts. And just because you buy colt doesn't mean anything. If colt runs low on parts they order else where.

You $1500 colt ar might have a Mossberg barrel.
 

god1

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Calling all Canadians.. @heckler73 @sunni ..with all the talk about limiting immigration to the US.. isn't it true that Canada will not allow you in if you have so much as a felony on your record?
Both Canada and Mexico have provisions if you're a felon you aren't getting in. Mexico had some legislation changed in '13 that made it more difficult to get a visa. Just because you can get a passport doesn't mean you can get in legally.
 

god1

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I can buy or build an ar with chrome chamber and hammer forged barrel for less than 400.

There are tier 1,2, and 3 manufacturers that make all ar parts. And just because you buy colt doesn't mean anything. If colt runs low on parts they order else where.

You $1500 colt ar might have a Mossberg barrel.

I bought my first A2 for around 200 bucks brand new. A hand full of surplus parts for 75 bucks and a 50 buck drop in sear, great fun. Man, people have fucked shit up.
 

sunni

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Calling all Canadians.. @heckler73 @sunni ..with all the talk about limiting immigration to the US.. isn't it true that Canada will not allow you in if you have so much as a felony on your record?
Like if you try to cross the boarder with a felony they have always declined you unles you get a judge to do a something or other
I forget what it's called

So if you have a dui even if you're a passenger they will say no
But this is an old rule not new

For immigrants I don't know sorry I've never looked up how to immigrate to Canada because I am Canadian not something I spent my Saturday mornings doing LOL
But I'm sure The Canadian immigration website knows !
 

whitebb2727

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Both Canada and Mexico have provisions if you're a felon you aren't getting in. Mexico had some legislation changed in '13 that made it more difficult to get a visa. Just because you can get a passport doesn't mean you can get in legally.
I won't name manufacturers but you can get complete uppers with lower build kit including stock and buffer tube. That is with magpul grips and magazine. Chrome chamber, full auto bcg and hammer forged barrel. All for the price of $299. Go buy a blimished lower for fifty bucks and got a top of the line A4 for $350.
 

Uncle Ben

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Ban handguns? Right. Might as well ban 3-D printers too which can make them.

You have to start with the twisted Islamic mentality before there will be peace again.

This is just the tip of the Iceberg. Ragheads want to destroy and kill those who refuse to conform to their stupidity, herd mentality, madness. I guess they just hate leaving any one in a state of peace or watching the free world enjoy life, freedeom of religion, REAL love and happiness.

Any one that would forego their family, young baby, for Islam is really sick.
 

god1

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I won't name manufacturers but you can get complete uppers with lower build kit including stock and buffer tube. That is with magpul grips and magazine. Chrome chamber, full auto bcg and hammer forged barrel. All for the price of $299. Go buy a blimished lower for fifty bucks and got a top of the line A4 for $350.

I assume you were responding to my comment re the A2, if not I apologize.

I have plenty of different platforms now. Your comment re the builds had me recall my first purchase years ago, before the infamous "black gun" lingo of the "loons".

I will say, that I had three serialized sears that if I had kept them would have been worth over 30K today as a result of the GCA of '86. A couple of years prior, stupid me, decided there was more fun to be had and bought a small table top knee mill and a lath. Long story short, I ended trading the sears away for tooling, the logic being I could make my own. Who would have thought.
 

Lord Kanti

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Ban handguns? Right. Might as well ban 3-D printers too which can make them.

You have to start with the twisted Islamic mentality before there will be peace again.

This is just the tip of the Iceberg. Ragheads want to destroy and kill those who refuse to conform to their stupidity, herd mentality, madness. I guess they just hate leaving any one in a state of peace or watching the free world enjoy life, freedeom of religion, REAL love and happiness.

Any one that would forego their family, young baby, for Islam is really sick.

Thinking that they left the kid behind like that bothers me the most; more than the killing itself. I just can't imagine how a parent...PARENTS could do that. It's absolutely fucking disgusting how many lives they've ruined, including their child's.
 

whitebb2727

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I assume you were responding to my comment re the A2, if not I apologize.

I have plenty of different platforms now. Your comment re the builds had me recall my first purchase years ago, before the infamous "black gun" lingo of the "loons".

I will say, that I had three serialized sears that if I had kept them would have been worth over 30K today as a result of the GCA of '86. A couple of years prior, stupid me, decided there was more fun to be had and bought a small table top knee mill and a lath. Long story short, I ended trading the sears away for tooling, the logic being I could make my own. Who would have thought.
Yes I was responding to your quote. That sucks not keeping them.

When I say full auto bcg (bolt carrier group) those are legal. It doesn't make them full auto. They are mil spec and better than after market.
 
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