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OddBall1st

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Realistically; it's essentially a big fancy boiler with an extreme coolant system, radiation shielding and electric turbines.

Most people don't understand a reactor's entire job is to heat water...

Boil water, use steam pressure, just like a ship kettle. But nothing works til you get Uranium, and bring Uranium to fuel stage, transport Uranium to location, install Uranium, it goes on and on.

You just can`t put Uranium in your pockets or send it by mail.
 

OddBall1st

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You need the reactor to make the bomb grade, or going from ground to bomb grade requires many hundreds of spinny thingys and takes times.
 

OddBall1st

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Centrifuges...

And it's still not rocket science.

It`s much more complicated than rocket science, rocket science and fireworks are the same thing. You`re dealing with particles that travel through everything but Pb. You have to separate it from U238, and so much more.

Rocket science,........OK.
 

Harrekin

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It`s much more complicated than rocket science, rocket science and fireworks are the same thing. You`re dealing with particles that travel through everything but Pb. You have to separate it from U238, and so much more.

Rocket science,........OK.
Essentially, once you get the fuel rods refined, you're just pushing them close together in an armoured shell and using cadmium rods to stop a runaway reaction.

Inventing it was complicated and took genius, recreating it now that the research is done?

Not so much.
 

OddBall1st

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When you fire a rocket, you don`t have to deal with the effects of it, when you fire Uranium, Uncontrolled detonation/explosion, you create the one thing mankind should never create,...Iodine-239 which then allows you to create it`s brother Pu-239
 

OddBall1st

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Essentially, once you get the fuel rods refined, you're just pushing them close together in an armoured shell and using cadmium rods to stop a runaway reaction.

Inventing it was complicated and took genius, recreating it now that the research is done?

Not so much.

No, you are capturing/absorbing the isotope so the reaction cannot occur. There is nothing, no armor or anything that can withstand a thermonuclear reaction, controlled or uncontrolled, you don`t contain it, you prevent it or say ya good-bye`s.
 

Harrekin

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When you fire a rocket, you don`t have to deal with the effects of it, when you fire Uranium, Uncontrolled detonation/explosion, you create the one thing mankind should never create,...Iodine-239 which then allows you to create it`s brother Pu-239
Are you being intentionally ignorant?

Rockets arnt purely solid fueled F&F devices, they're some of the most complicated machines in the history of the human race.

The maths involved in establishing a stable orbit are more complicated than the maths for a nuclear reaction.
 

OddBall1st

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Are you being intentionally ignorant?

Rockets arnt purely solid fueled F&F devices, they're some of the most complicated machines in the history of the human race.

The maths involved in establishing a stable orbit are more complicated than the maths for a nuclear reaction.

No, that would be the guidance systems. The rocket is the propulsion or engine if you will.
 

OddBall1st

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"Rocket science" covers all aspects of rocketry and space travel, moron.
No, the guidance system is in many places now, not just rockets, you have one in your car or smart-phone.

Example, Speed, direction, altitude, and time of burn dictates where an ICBM goes. It uses a rocket.
 

OddBall1st

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"rocket science" was created because it used to be the most complicated thing to do, drive/navigate a rocket.
 

schuylaar

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WELL, technically, they can be built by lay people. So can nuclear reactors. A kid did that a few years ago. Yes, a kid. It could be done, I guess. But I doubt you'll find an 80% kit for one ;)
See Ahmed thread.

Tha shits all on the web, anyway.
 
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schuylaar

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Realistically; it's essentially a big fancy boiler with an extreme coolant system, radiation shielding and electric turbines.

Most people don't understand a reactor's entire job is to heat water...
I do..believe it or not..good explanation.

Point: Irish:clap:
 
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OddBall1st

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The kid that built the reactor got his fuel by busting open smoke detectors if I remember right.

That`s Americium-241, it can be used as reactor fuel, What you find in the detector is MOX containing it. Yes, it is possible for a kid with smarts to do. Even me,...But not your everyday joe. I bet he got a half second of burn from it, the levels of this kids reactor are far less dangerous that the hospital X-Ray section. It will not explode by bombardment (I think) but you need to bring it to unheard of temperatures. What he did was energy changing form, not creating new Elements, ( I think) it`s been a while, I don't want to look it up.
 

OddBall1st

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When you open the detector and look into the chamber, the stain on the metal is the radioactive material, kinda like oil on top of water color.
 

Harrekin

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That`s Americium-241, it can be used as reactor fuel, What you find in the detector is MOX containing it. Yes, it is possible for a kid with smarts to do. Even me,...But not your everyday joe. I bet he got a half second of burn from it, the levels of this kids reactor are far less dangerous that the hospital X-Ray section. It will not explode by bombardment (I think) but you need to bring it to unheard of temperatures. What he did was energy changing form, not creating new Elements, ( I think) it`s been a while, I don't want to look it up.
Fission doesn't "make new elements", it breaks U235 down into smaller elements due to the fission that occurs.

All fission reactors work on this principle, it's not "producing new elements" that is desirable, it's the energy released in the process.

If anything, the production of new elements is an undesirable consequence due to the uncertainty of what elements will be produced.

You can't oversimplify things and expect to get away with it on here... ;)
 

budlover13

King Tut
That`s Americium-241, it can be used as reactor fuel, What you find in the detector is MOX containing it. Yes, it is possible for a kid with smarts to do. Even me,...But not your everyday joe. I bet he got a half second of burn from it, the levels of this kids reactor are far less dangerous that the hospital X-Ray section. It will not explode by bombardment (I think) but you need to bring it to unheard of temperatures. What he did was energy changing form, not creating new Elements, ( I think) it`s been a while, I don't want to look it up.
The story I remember was that he built it at home and stored it there for a couple days then became alarmed at the levels of radiation rising and put it in the trunk and drove around trying to figure out what to do lol. Cops pulled him over and he immediately notified them what was in the trunk.
 
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