Russian jet shot down by Turkey

pnwmystery

pnwmystery

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OddBall1st said:
Like I knew, no evidence just enemy and press numbers. We need to rely on the enemy and press to get civi numbers. They claim the number 165,000 died after bombings destroyed food sources, health care services, drinking water destruction, and even count attacks by the enemy on civilians because the US provoked them.

Holy shit guy, I can`t believe you buy into this shit, .. There is no mention of if the battles were strikes worth doing or had to be done, or just defending themselves.

Nothing, nothing at all is accurate coming out of there.

Dude when ISIS took a city, then got chased out by Iraqi or US forces, that total number of civis is added to the US kill list, how do you think ISIS took the town without killing anybody on the way in and while being forced out? This is done because the US is the aggressor,...Wouldn`t of happened if we didn`t,? Get real, you said directly as in pulled the trigger dead.

You`ve proven nothing but there is a war, civis are dying and non of it would happen if the US didn`t begin the war. That`s the murder of civi`s yooze guys talk about,....


Some of these sites have a day by day count, but don`t say how they died. Count that too because the US is the aggressor and it wouldn`t haver happened if we didn`t.

Total BS designed to degrade the US and prop up the Middle East as Innocent civis being murdered to sell stories.

Most of this counting happened in 2003, and is no longer able to prove.

Just like I thought,....you give me,...They said so. or The UN says they told them,......

All you can prove is that half a million are dead in a war the US started. That`s it.
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You didn't look at a single link I provided, or you did look and were incapable of reading/comprehending. I know this for a fact, because Brown University is in RI, and it's not "the UN" nor are those news sources "the enemy." Are you telling me that if the US Government were to just say: No civilians were killed at all by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan, you'd believe that? Way to go confirmation bias.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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kelly4 said:
They have proved it. They don't need to prove it every time a new member joins or because someone wasn't paying attention.
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No they have not, you saying so is not enough. All I`ve seen are numbers, not causes. You are a fool if you think I`m to believe the numbers coming out from the enemy and a very Democratically bias media.

The UN reports are Pete the Repeat of the Media numbers.

kelly4, is not proof of what they say.

Everyone agrees that there is no way of knowing Who? did what or Who? died from What? Yet people here post number facts. Cuz kell4 said so.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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pnwmystery said:
You didn't look at a single link I provided, or you did look and were incapable of reading/comprehending. I know this for a fact, because Brown University is in RI, and it's not "the UN" nor are those news sources "the enemy." Are you telling me that if the US Government were to just say: No civilians were killed at all by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan, you'd believe that? Way to go confirmation bias.
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I looked at every single one of them, they all have counts and tallies from them.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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No, what I`m trying to tell you, IBC has violent deaths,..no causes but many comments about said causes, but no causes. the second link has a very first sentence of, " no-one really knows for sure"..... The one with U.N. in it`s title is United Nations.

Your back up point is a story to convince the reader that people die in war. kell4 doesn`t know that yet. They are very fortunate that we are not conducting a push Front, at least you know your howitzer are doing the killing like they are supposed to. That would give me closest to true numbers, but that`s not how this fight is being fought.
 
kelly4

kelly4

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OddBall1st said:
No they have not, you saying so is not enough. All I`ve seen are numbers, not causes. You are a fool if you think I`m to believe the numbers coming out from the enemy and a very Democratically bias media.

The UN reports are Pete the Repeat of the Media numbers.

kelly4, is not proof of what they say.

Everyone agrees that there is no way of knowing Who? did what or Who? died from What? Yet people here post number facts. Cuz kell4 said so.
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I sense BUTTHURT!
 
kelly4

kelly4

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OddBall1st said:
No, what I`m trying to tell you, IBC has violent deaths,..no causes but many comments about said causes, but no causes. the second link has a very first sentence of, " no-one really knows for sure"..... The one with U.N. in it`s title is United Nations.

Your back up point is a story to convince the reader that people die in war. kell4 doesn`t know that yet. They are very fortunate that we are not conducting a push Front, at least you know your howitzer are doing the killing like they are supposed to. That would give me closest to true numbers, but that`s not how this fight is being fought.
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Yep, it's a full on BUTTHURT MIGRAINE!
 
kelly4

kelly4

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OddBall1st said:
All I`ve done so far is prove you`re full of shit.
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I stated that they've proven their numbers in the past.

You got BUTTHURT and declared yourself victorious.

You somehow proved I was full of shit...of what?

Yup, it's a BUTTHURT/MELTDOWN fusion.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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pnwmystery said:
And we've proved that you have tons of confirmation bias. You won't believe facts and figures if they don't fit your made up fantasy narrative... so who does that make full of shit?
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You`ve proven nothing but ,...they said so. Not my fault you buy it.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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kelly4 said:
I stated that they've proven their numbers in the past.

You got BUTTHURT and declared yourself victorious.

You somehow proved I was full of shit...of what?

Yup, it's a BUTTHURT/MELTDOWN fusion.
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Quote the butthurt that you speak of. All you did was state they`ve proven numbers to me, and all I see are Enemy stats,...Quote the Marines, they did the killing.
 
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