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OddBall1st

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Because that worked in Iraq and Afghanistan really well...

They did not do what I said in Afghan. or Iraq, the boys were broken up into little groups and sent all over, there were no push Fronts in Iraq or Afghan. It was a clusterfuck deal.

The only time you saw what I suggested was in Desert storm,...once it started, it was over in less than a week and we lost practically nothing and very few troops, under ten I believe.

No nothing they are doing today even remotely resembles what Colon and Norman did, and did very well.

It needs to be done again and not stopped short like they did to Schwartzkopf. We are there today because they were not allowed to finish back in 90,...they said we would too, and there we are.
 

MiG pilot

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dude they are ignorant, they cant understand cos they believe their satanic media.... they also thinks ISIS is muslim...

learn what is islam
ISIS aka Daesh? Of course they are Muslims. All the signs are obvious - shouting "Allahu Akbar" and cut off the head and poked his index finger to the sky. Uneducated and aggressive. Did I miss something?
 

ethabhae

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they think they are muslim, but they are not. they understand Islam... we have hodjas like your priests who wants to go between Allah and us....
 
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ChesusRice

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they think they are, but they are not. they are like you. dont understand Islam
I heard that exact same thing from an Algerian chap I got a job for.
He also told me it was the Jews behind 9/11 and none of the terrorists in Paris came in as war refugees.
3rd strike was when he tried to throw me under the bus at work for a mistake he made.

Not feeling any love for Muslims lately
 

OddBall1st

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Fuck you Rubio scout, If Rubio is gonna go on Meet The press and copy what I have been posting in this thread on National TV, at least say it`s odd, or you may find things odd or even nothing is even things are odd,...Don`t pretend to have thought it up by yourself.

And Fuck you drunken Kerry, America Don`t give a rats ass what all of Islam thinks about America after Trump said put the brakes on until we find out what`s going on. Not everybody is ascared of them as you are.

"Oh don`t say that , you`ll get them mad at us",..... is submission. That`s why he caved for Iran too.
 

Harrekin

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Fuck you Rubio scout, If Rubio is gonna go on Meet The press and copy what I have been posting in this thread on National TV, at least say it`s odd, or you may find things odd or even nothing is even things are odd,...Don`t pretend to have thought it up by yourself.

And Fuck you drunken Kerry, America Don`t give a rats ass what all of Islam thinks about America after Trump said put the brakes on until we find out what`s going on. Not everybody is ascared of them as you are.

"Oh don`t say that , you`ll get them mad at us",..... is submission. That`s why he caved for Iran too.
Iran is probably the most stable nation you could ever hope for in the Middle East.
 

ttystikk

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Lol... "rebels" = ISIS.

1.5 million+ dead in Iraq/Afghanistan from 2001 to 2012...
You do know the United States is directly as in we pulled the trigger responsible for the vast majority of that tally, right- and that most of them were innocent civilians?
 

ttystikk

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you are completely unfortunate.. Fuck all terrorists irregardless of their religions!
Indeed. Let's not forget those who murder innocents in the name of their Christian or Jewish God- after all, their body counts are far higher. They must be held to the same standard of accountability- or it's no standard at all.
 

OddBall1st

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You do know the United States is directly as in we pulled the trigger responsible for the vast majority of that tally, right- and that most of them were innocent civilians?

Prove that. You and buck along with a few others say it all the time, Now it`s time to prove it. I don`t want, ..they said so. I want the US said so.
 

pnwmystery

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Prove that. You and buck along with a few others say it all the time, Now it`s time to prove it. I don`t want, ..they said so. I want the US said so.
I can't believe you're that dumb. You do know that any government won't fess up to the amount of civilian casualties it causes in warfare, right? That's why there are international monitors, and non-governmental organizations that track this sort of thing.

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Or even here's a project from the Washington Institute of International and Public Affairs at Brown University.

http://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001533

There's another one.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/civilian-casualties-in-afghanistan-reach-record-high-1438754835

And here just to back up my point..

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/06/26/pentagon-scrambles-to-explain-iraqi-civilian-deaths-in-anti-isis-hawija-bombing

"Military leaders were quick to stand by the virtue of the strike, even against an outcry from locals and human rights organizations objecting to the deaths of civilians. It likely destroyed a lot of explosives, killed those with expertise in making the devices, and prevented future insurgents from using that facility, at least for a while, the officials said. Further, officials have pinned sole blame for incidental deaths on the Islamic State group, also known as ISIS, ISIL or the coalition’s preferred derogatory Arabic acronym, “Daesh.”"
 
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OddBall1st

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Like I knew, no evidence just enemy and press numbers. We need to rely on the enemy and press to get civi numbers. They claim the number 165,000 died after bombings destroyed food sources, health care services, drinking water destruction, and even count attacks by the enemy on civilians because the US provoked them.

Holy shit guy, I can`t believe you buy into this shit, .. There is no mention of if the battles were strikes worth doing or had to be done, or just defending themselves.

Nothing, nothing at all is accurate coming out of there.

Dude when ISIS took a city, then got chased out by Iraqi or US forces, that total number of civis is added to the US kill list, how do you think ISIS took the town without killing anybody on the way in and while being forced out? This is done because the US is the aggressor,...Wouldn`t of happened if we didn`t,? Get real, you said directly as in pulled the trigger dead.

You`ve proven nothing but there is a war, civis are dying and non of it would happen if the US didn`t begin the war. That`s the murder of civi`s yooze guys talk about,....


Some of these sites have a day by day count, but don`t say how they died. Count that too because the US is the aggressor and it wouldn`t haver happened if we didn`t.

Total BS designed to degrade the US and prop up the Middle East as Innocent civis being murdered to sell stories.

Most of this counting happened in 2003, and is no longer able to prove.

Just like I thought,....you give me,...They said so. or The UN says they told them,......

All you can prove is that half a million are dead in a war the US started. That`s it.
 
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