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Fogdog

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The debate was over Christian scripture vs Muslim scripture.
Well, actually the thread is over Trump. And this is the damage that fucktard is doing: Trump, by his irresponsible hate-baiting speeches to the Muslim-hating Evangelist right wing Christians, is legitimizing this kind of attitude. Do you think that Trump actually believes that somebody professing Islam is a threat to the US? I don't think so. I think he's using the fervor of the Christian right bigots to help himself to power. Do you think he is earnest about this issue? Is this a reason to you for supporting him?
 

3N1GM4

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I like him because he says what he thinks and doesnt sugar coat it, none of the other candidates have the gall to say what they truely think. I would much rather him be president than hillary, but my vote is on bernie
 
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Lord Kanti

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"Being a Muslim is about following the example that Mohammed made for us when he was here on earth in the flesh.
Being a Muslim means you praise Allah in everything you do and show love and compassion for your neighbors and those in need just as Mohammed did when he was here on earth in the flesh.
All these things that people are doing are not Islamic, they are people sinning.
Even Muslims sin, everyone does, the things Muslims do wrong is not because they are Muslim, it is because they are human."
>Just as Mohammad did

So wait, you're saying Muslims SHOULD deceive and murder?
 

Lord Kanti

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Well, actually the thread is over Trump. And this is the damage that fucktard is doing: Trump, by his irresponsible hate-baiting speeches to the Muslim-hating Evangelist right wing Christians, is legitimizing this kind of attitude. Do you think that Trump actually believes that somebody professing Islam is a threat to the US? I don't think so. I think he's using the fervor of the Christian right bigots to help himself to power. Do you think he is earnest about this issue? Is this a reason to you for supporting him?
Open your eyes. The EU is crumbling thanks to its lenient border policy. Also, the U.S. president has an executive right to close the borders. Obama did it to a large chunk of Muslims in the middle east, there's no reason not to expand upon that policy if necessary.
I've already posted statistics regarding Islamists and how they feel Sharia law needs to be the law of the land. These are American Muslims living conformable, not third world people just scraping by.
 

Fogdog

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Open your eyes. The EU is crumbling thanks to its lenient border policy. Also, the U.S. president has an executive right to close the borders. Obama did it to a large chunk of Muslims in the middle east, there's no reason not to expand upon that policy if necessary.
I've already posted statistics regarding Islamists and how they feel Sharia law needs to be the law of the land. These are American Muslims living conformable, not third world people just scraping by.
Umm, no, just no. I say that Trump's and your rhetoric is the same as Islamist fanatics. You radical Christians are a herpes sore on humanity. The same for Islamist fanatics. Open your own eyes. Violence only reinforces the cycle of violence. Toss in religious fanaticism and the cycle will never end. Stop it.
 
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Fogdog

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I like him because he says what he thinks and doesnt sugar coat it, none of the other candidates have the gall to say what they truely think. I would much rather him be president than hillary, but my vote is on bernie
Trump has little history to indicate that he was an Christian, much less a person who would care about Islam. I think he is simply saying these things to gin up support, not saying something he acutally believes in. Trump is phoney, not speaking his mind.
 

Lord Kanti

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Umm, no, just no. I say that T2rump's and your rhetoric is the same as Islamist fanatics. You radical Christians are a herpes sore on humanity. The same for Islamist fanatics. Open your own eyes. Violence only reinforces the cycle of violence. Toss in religious fanaticism and the cycle will never end. Stop it.
Maybe you'd rather open your legs instead. If not you then perhaps your daughter, wife, or mother would be willing to be multiculturally enriched.
 

pnwmystery

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Maybe you'd rather open your legs instead. If not you then perhaps your daughter, wife, or mother would be willing to be multiculturally enriched.
Bwahaha...

"The Oslo Police District has given a report of rapes in Oslo in 2010. The report shows that for all types of rape, except assault rape, European perpetrators are in the majority, and they are mostly Norwegian. Assault rapes covers only five identified unique person. These have all a foreign origin. The number is however, so low that it does not provide a basis for drawing conclusions with regard to country of origin. Two of them were very young (under 18) and two had severe psychiatric diagnoses and cannot be regarded as representative of their ethnic culture. It is highlighted in the report that generalizations like “Oslo’s rapists are foreigners”, which have been seen in media, are wrong. The report gives no statistics regarding religion of rapists.”

Yours Sincerely,

Grethe Kleivan

Deputy Director General"

"The majority of registered perpetrators in cases of reported rape in Oslo in 2010 have Norwegian citizenship, as has been the case in every previous rape study. In 2010 this went for 61.2% of the perpetrators, which is relatively stable compared to the material from 2007 (60.3%). A relatively high proportion, 12.5%, of the registered perpetrators are from other parts of Europe, and taken together almost three quarters of the perpetrators in 2010 have European citizenship. For the rest, 10.5% are from Africa,9.2% from the Middle East, 4.6% from Asia and 2% from America. "
 

Padawanbater2

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>Just as Mohammad did

So wait, you're saying Muslims SHOULD deceive and murder?
I'm providing an example that shows the similarities between Christianity and Islam

Any example you can use against Islam, I can use against Christianity. The bad things anyone can say about Islam also apply equally to Christianity, which is funny because most of the criticisms of Islam come from.. wouldn't cha know it? Christians.. who claim moral authority.


So it would seem to me that basing your beliefs off of shit that can't be proven one way or the other is a good way to breed dictatorship. Those who say you have to believe their way or die - based on their own personal interpretation of the adult fairy-tale they believe in. Because, had you known and understood reality, they wouldn't be able to trick you so easily.
 

3N1GM4

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1) “We will have so much winning if I get elected that you may get bored with winning.”
2) “Am I morally obligated to defend the president every time somebody says something bad or controversial about him? I don't think so! ...If someone made a nasty or controversial statement about me to the president, do you really think he would come to my rescue? No chance!”
3) “When someone crosses you, my advice is ‘Get Even!’ That is not typical advice, but it is real life advice. If you do not get even, you are just a schmuck! When people wrong you, go after those people because it is a good feeling and because other people will see you doing it. I love getting even. I get screwed all the time. I go after people, and you know what? People do not play around with me as much as they do with others. They know that if they do, they are in for a big fight.”
4) “What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc. ...Many fabulous people come in from Mexico and our country is better for it. But these people are here legally, and are severely hurt by those coming in illegally.”
5) “Protect the downside and the upside will take care of itself.....I happen to be very conservative in business. I always go into a deal anticipating the worst. If you plan for the worst -- if you can live with the worst -- the good will always take care of itself.”
6) “People who think achieving success is a linear A-to-Z process, a straight shot to the top, simply aren’t in touch with reality. There are very few bona fide overnight success stories. It just doesn’t work that way. Success appears to happen overnight because we all see stories in newspapers and on TV about previously unknown people who have suddenly become famous. But consider a sequoia tree that has been growing for several hundred years. Just because a television crew one day decides to do a story about that tree doesn’t mean it didn’t exist before.”
7) "I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct. I've been challenged by so many people, and I don't frankly have time for total political correctness. And to be honest with you, this country doesn't have time either."
8)Experience taught me a few things. One is to listen to your gut, no matter how good something sounds on paper. The second is that you’re generally better off sticking with what you know. And the third is that sometimes your best investments are the ones you don’t make.”
9) “I really am convinced we're in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with firecrackers. No sensible analyst rejects this possibility, and plenty of them, like me, are not wondering if but when it will happen. ...One day we're told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin Laden is public enemy number one, and U.S. jet fighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan. He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it’s on to a new enemy and new crisis.” -- Donald Trump in 2000
10) “In the make-believe world you will automatically get paid what you are worth. The real world doesn’t work that way. You get paid what you are worth only when the person you are dealing with has no other choice.”
11) “The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts.”
12) “Criticism is easier to take when you realize that the only people who aren’t criticized are those who don’t take risks.”
13) “I will build a great wall — and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me —and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”
14) “The more government takes in taxes, the less incentive people have to work. What coal miner or assembly-line worker jumps at the offer of overtime when he knows Uncle Sam is going to take sixty percent or more of his extra pay? . . . Any system that penalizes success and accomplishment is wrong. Any system that discourages work, discourages productivity, discourages economic progress, is wrong. If, on the other hand, you reduce tax rates and allow people to spend or save more of what they earn, they’ll be more industrious; they’ll have more incentive to work hard, and money they earn will add fuel to the great economic machine that energizes our national progress. The result: more prosperity for all—and more revenue for government.”
15) “The world is a horrible place. Lions kill for food, but people kill for sport. People try to kill you mentally, especially if you are on top. We all have friends that want everything we have. They want our money, our business, house, car, wife and dog. Those are our friends. Our enemies are even worse! You have to protect yourself in life.”
16) “Think how boring it would be to just sail into things and have everything be perfect. You can’t prove your merit on quiet waters, whether you’re a businessman or a mariner.”
17) “Your brother’s administration gave us Barack Obama because it was such a disaster those last 3 months that Abraham Lincoln couldn’t get elected.” – To Jeb Bush
18) “Rich people are rich because they solve difficult problems. You must learn to thrive on problems.”
19) “If you’re interested in ‘balancing’ work and pleasure, stop trying to balance them. Instead make your work more pleasurable.”
20) “A nation WITHOUT BORDERS is not a nation at all. We must have a wall. The rule of law matters.”
21) “Luck does not come around often. So when it does, be sure to take full advantage of it, even if it means working very hard. When luck is on your side it is not the time to be modest or timid. It is the time to go for the biggest success you can possibly achieve. That is the true meaning of thinking big.”
22) “Well, I think that when you get right down to it, we're a nation that speaks English. I think that, while we're in this nation, we should be speaking English. Whether people like it or not, that's how we assimilate.”
23) “Back in 1991 the markets were terrible, and everyone was going out of business. I was in deep, deep trouble. I owed billions of dollars. Sure, I could tell you all I want about how to handle pressure well, but I owed many banks billions of dollars. It was not exactly fun. Believe me, it is not cool to be Donald Trump when you owe billions of dollars.”
 

The_Herban_Legend

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Trump has little history to indicate that he was an Christian, much less a person who would care about Islam. I think he is simply saying these things to gin up support, not saying something he acutally believes in. Trump is phoney, not speaking his mind.
He will drop from the race by May of 2016. Scary thing is which one of the other ignorant Republicans will win the nomination? Hillary has this in the bag. If Bernie continues to play nice, he will have a comfy spot in her administration.
 

Lord Kanti

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I'm providing an example that shows the similarities between Christianity and Islam

Any example you can use against Islam, I can use against Christianity. The bad things anyone can say about Islam also apply equally to Christianity, which is funny because most of the criticisms of Islam come from.. wouldn't cha know it? Christians.. who claim moral authority.


So it would seem to me that basing your beliefs off of shit that can't be proven one way or the other is a good way to breed dictatorship. Those who say you have to believe their way or die - based on their own personal interpretation of the adult fairy-tale they believe in. Because, had you known and understood reality, they wouldn't be able to trick you so easily.
Except that you can't. Mohammad was a deceitful murderer, Christ was not.
 

The_Herban_Legend

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Except that you can't. Mohammad was a deceitful murderer, Christ was not.
How many people did 'god" kill in the old testament? Why do Catholics think Jesus and god are one? Why do you believe in this nonsense? If you are not already educated, spend the time you study this nonsense and study something that will add value to your life.
 

Lord Kanti

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I'm not talking about Christ. I'm talking about Christianity, any argument against Islam can equally be used against Christianity
Christianity is following Christ's example. Islam is following teachings of Mohammad. Mohammad was a deceitful murderer, Christ was not.

Christ wasn't around in the Old Testament.
 

Padawanbater2

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Christianity is following Christ's example. Islam is following teachings of Mohammad. Mohammad was a deceitful murderer, Christ was not.

Christ wasn't around in the Old Testament.
Seeing as how Christians commit acts of violence in the name of Christianity and Muslims commit acts of violence in the name of Islam, I would argue what they claim to follow isn't as relevant as the actions they commit.

Wouldn't you agree?
 
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