can sum1 help with canna coco....

bubblenut

bubblenut

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I am struggling converting this guys, can someone please break this feed schedule down into weeks for me as i wanna do an auto coco grow next month... any help with this much appreciated.Screenshot_2015-12-18-10-19-03.png
Have had basic product line up gifted to me, rhizo, pk, boost etc and i am keen to obtain a new cultivation skillset! I just cant make sense of these (phase) periods instead of weeks and want best results i can get out of my autos....
 
tropicalcannabispatient

tropicalcannabispatient

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I can't help haven't use canna coco and have never grow in coco, one thing i know is that u gonna have to feed i think every watering, and is mandatory a ph pen. G.L
 
Chrissa

Chrissa

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Canna coco is more like hydro then any other setup.. Drain to waste hydro not recirculating. That chart is useless it's just a quick reference / guideline for plants that have reached there peak e.c. You need to buy an ec meter and a ph meter , fill your res with water make sure u know how much water . Then check the e.c of the water and go to this site http://www.cannagardening.com/growguide once ur there input the ec, type of medium and ect... Never feed with plain water not even for the last two weeks if ur at 2.0 e.c and have 14 days till harvest gradually lower the e.c day by day...1.9 1.8 1.7 ect.. Keep your ph at 5.8... If u have a water softener or R.O then add calmag to ur res before u add the canna nutrient line..make sure u maintain at least 20 percent runoff . Start your ec low and work your way up, do not feed everyday until your plants want to be fed everyday , get a moisture meter to know when to water and adjust timers and whatnot accordingly. And do not rely on the runoff water to get the e.c and ph of your root environment , use the 1part coco 3 part water slurry extraction method read my posts , I'm slowly working on a canna coco thread
 
Chrissa

Chrissa

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Canna coco doesn't need perlite it allows roots to have excellent source of oxygen , canna even says if u mix perlite with the coco to not even use there coco nutrient line and go str8 to there aqua line , canna coco creates and excellent environment for roots expecially when your 20percent runoff I go to 30 and when ur using the nutrients properly.. I grow in 65.5 litre pots with pure coco and get 2g per watt
 
Chrissa

Chrissa

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With that website I gave u research ,, put in your values and once u get a more accurate guide line still start the e.c low and work up let your plants tell u what they need believe me the day will come when u will feed everyday full strength with correct p.h and ur plants will love the coco...I recommend a scrog for even canopy for even light distribution
 
bubblenut

bubblenut

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Have aeen website and i do understand parameters u have stated, i just thought it may have been dialled in to a perfect recipe by somebody by now. Chrissa i will follow your exact method as this is my first full coco grow.
P.s i havent got there coco.... one of the only things i need but i have got coco, sri lankan product have used before in soil mix with good results. Should probally get canns gear though.....
 
Chrissa

Chrissa

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There are great recipes but no perfect u need to go back to u r basics for a second and remember that every strain is different .. u will do great!!
 
bubblenut

bubblenut

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The simplest method i see with auto genetics is treating days 1 - 28 as veg and days 29 - 85 as flower as with photo period. Have never seen a 70 day auto. I know ive probably had them, just i like a more couch lock effect at bedtime so i like about 50% amber trichs come harvest is best.
Its the only way i can seem to break down these "phases"....
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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bubblenut said:
The simplest method i see with auto genetics is treating days 1 - 28 as veg and days 29 - 85 as flower as with photo period. Have never seen a 70 day auto. I know ive probably had them, just i like a more couch lock effect at bedtime so i like about 50% amber trichs come harvest is best.
Its the only way i can seem to break down these "phases"....
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this is just how i treat my coco
week 1-3 seedling starting out light and slowly increasing after the first week
3-6 veg(or two weeks into flower which ever come first ) even after flower starts i still run the veg and then start to slowly transition from veg to bloom around week 6 ... but i am like you and like the heavier medications and i strongly believe that very few auto's are actually done at 8 weeks since all i have allowed to run longer all seem to benefit from it .. figured id add i havent ran that nutrient line but in the end nutes are nutes .... its just being able to read your plant correctly and having what in needs in place at the proper times that really matters ..... so i guess what im getting at is there is no real schedule .... keep micros available from the start ..... slowly work up from 1/4 strength during veg until you get a slight tip burn and then slowly take away the veg and add bloom in its place .... if you do burn it give it a flush add the micros back and let it ride for a day or so on just water and then get back to it ..... keeping notes helped me alot ....... and dont forget to flush the coco before you start even if its " prewashed "
 
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bubblenut

bubblenut

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tekdc911 said:
this is just how i treat my coco
week 1-3 seedling starting out light and slowly increasing after the first week
3-6 veg(or two weeks into flower which ever come first ) even after flower starts i still run the veg and then start to slowly transition from veg to bloom around week 6 ... but i am like you and like the heavier medications and i strongly believe that very few auto's are actually done at 8 weeks since all i have allowed to run longer all seem to benefit from it .. figured id add i havent ran that nutrient line but in the end nutes are nutes .... its just being able to read your plant correctly and having what in needs in place at the proper times that really matters ..... so i guess what im getting at is there is no real schedule .... keep micros available from the start ..... slowly work up from 1/4 strength during veg until you get a slight tip burn and then slowly take away the veg and add bloom in its place .... if you do burn it give it a flush add the micros back and let it ride for a day or so on just water and then get back to it ..... keeping notes helped me alot ....... and dont forget to flush the coco before you start even if its " prewashed "
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Thankyou for the positive response @tekdc911. I have done my research and believe that this is how i will carry out the grow.
My current girls are doing well in their 3 part medium and have fed them a bit of the coco nute and they take it up fast!!!!
 
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I have grown with canna coco a few times now, and it is super simple. I have never measured ph or any additives, as I am a firm believer in the KISS approach. What I do is water with pure water for the first few weeks, until the plants are "plants" and not seedlings, then I mix canna coco into A+B into water, 3ml/l of each. Mix in A first then B, so they don't react with eachother. Use that ratio until the last month, where you can use 1.5-2ml/l.

Also I use coco and the setup is known as a hempy bucket. It's basically a layer of absorbent rocks in the bottom and coco on top. about 1/6 ratio. water until the bottom layer of rocks is covered.
 
bubblenut

bubblenut

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8/10 said:
I have grown with canna coco a few times now, and it is super simple. I have never measured ph or any additives, as I am a firm believer in the KISS approach. What I do is water with pure water for the first few weeks, until the plants are "plants" and not seedlings, then I mix canna coco into A+B into water, 3ml/l of each. Mix in A first then B, so they don't react with eachother. Use that ratio until the last month, where you can use 1.5-2ml/l.

Also I use coco and the setup is known as a hempy bucket. It's basically a layer of absorbent rocks in the bottom and coco on top. about 1/6 ratio. water until the bottom layer of rocks is covered.
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By bottom layer of rocks you are referring to hydroton rock correct? And water till rocks covered, would that be at 20% run off abouts????
 
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I use "diatomaceous earth", which you can find in some types of kitty litter. All the water I pour in stays in the bucket, there are no holes in my buckets.
 
Chrissa

Chrissa

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8/10 said:
I have grown with canna coco a few times now, and it is super simple. I have never measured ph or any additives, as I am a firm believer in the KISS approach. What I do is water with pure water for the first few weeks, until the plants are "plants" and not seedlings, then I mix canna coco into A+B into water, 3ml/l of each. Mix in A first then B, so they don't react with eachother. Use that ratio until the last month, where you can use 1.5-2ml/l.

Also I use coco and the setup is known as a hempy bucket. It's basically a layer of absorbent rocks in the bottom and coco on top. about 1/6 ratio. water until the bottom layer of rocks is covered.
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Ur watering with pure water and ruining the buffer inside ur coco, that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard yet do ur research coco is hydro not soil
 
Chrissa

Chrissa

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I use 65,5 L of coco no hydroton no perlite ,, and u absolutely need to see that 20 percent run off that's the trick to the coco to keep the buffer in check.. Coco has a weird cation exchange capacity it hold onto potassium and sodium which interm affects how other nutrients are absorbed and used
 
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