Defoliation - Touchy Subject My Theory (Veg + Flower)

Resinhound

Resinhound

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Xare said:
Not if they are blocking light to a lower budsite, no. Because if you dont get light to the lower budsite then it will turn into popcorn buds that are wispy and not dense.

And when you remove the fan leaves light is able to get to the budsites and make them bigger.

Are you trying to grow bud or leaf ?
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Classic answer...really.
 
tropicalcannabispatient

tropicalcannabispatient

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Xare said:
Your Argument isnt valid, because the purpose of Defoliating is NOT to grow bigger main buds. That is not where you make up extra yield.

When you Defoliate you allow light to reach the lower bud sites and it fills in the canopy better. The smaller buds become larger and add to your overall yield. It makes for a more efficient grow.

The top cola budsites are already in the full brightness of the light, because they are above everything else and they never get shaded.

When you are defoliating you want to remove the large fan leaves that block the light from reaching the lower bud sites so that they can fill in and swell up, instead of becoming popcorn fluffy nugs.

So you end up with alot more of your weight from the lower buds from the rest of the canopy, not top budsites, those stay the same.
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I think i understand your retarded statement now, so u defoliate to make popcorn nugs bigger for "extra" harvest? Why in first place grow only tops and NOT popcorn shit, why insted of defoliate the plant just lollipop the popcorn and redirect all the energy into growing bigger tops? Because it doesn't make to stunt the plant for a month to grow bigger popcorn nugs the time u loose in recovery u can spended better in growing bigger tops..WP_20151214_18_08_29_Rich.jpg like this.. That way u dont have to grow shitty popcorn. Who want popcorn anyways? Merry Xmas to all!!
 
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Impman

Impman

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harris hawk said:
Thanks ! thought this site was for helping, sharing knowledge ,ect and not to but people down, ect
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it is a good site. you just found yourself in the vortex of the apex of RIU trolls. post anything on defoliation and you get called a noob and stupid. seriously, there are only a few of these guys waiting to get a chance to parrot an outdoor grower and call names. keep on keeping on. a couple semesters of plant science class would change any of these trolls opinions on their all knowing leader. truth be told, a lot has changed in agriculture since 1893.
 

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chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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tropicalcannabispatient said:
I think i understand your retarded statement now, so u defoliate to make popcorn nugs bigger for "extra" harvest? Why in first place grow only tops and NOT popcorn shit, why insted of defoliate the plant just lollipop the popcorn and redirect all the energy into growing bigger tops? Because it doesn't make to stunt the plant for a month to grow bigger popcorn nugs the time u loose in recovery u can spended better in growing bigger tops..
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well, got some news for you, look up "apical dominance' all though your idea is the same as others, that just isn't how plants work. there really isn't any other energy redirected to the already dominant tops.read this
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-plants-send-sugars-from-sources-to-sinks.html

Sugar sinks that store carbohydrates can become sugar sources for plants when the plants need sugar. Starch, a complex carbohydrate, is insoluble in water, so it acts as a carbohydrate storage molecule. Whenever a plant needs sugar, like at night or in the winter when photosynthesis doesn’t occur as well, the plant can break down its starches into simple sugars, which allows a tissue that would normally be a sugar sink to become a sugar source.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Impman said:
it is a good site. you just found yourself in the vortex of the apex of RIU trolls. post anything on defoliation and you get called a noob and stupid. seriously, there are only a few of these guys waiting to get a chance to parrot an outdoor grower and call names. keep on keeping on. a couple semesters of plant science class would change any of these trolls opinions on their all knowing leader. truth be told, a lot has changed in agriculture since 1893.
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more like a vortex of butt hurt no nothings who THINK they have changed the playbook. LMFAO
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Resinhound said:
Youre right alot has changed...except the plants,they still work the same way they did in 1893.They still need leaves to do pretty much ANYTHING.But you just keep on with your plucking...
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but, he is the guy who talked to plant scientists and they say it's bad, yet he doesn't listen to them damn scientists,lol

Limpman said:
I have asked a few professors with Doctorates in plant science about removing leaves. they say it is a bad idea.
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Impman

Impman

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Resinhound said:
Youre right alot has changed...except the plants,they still work the same way they did in 1893.They still need leaves to do pretty much ANYTHING.But you just keep on with your plucking...
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um no plants don't work the same. 100 years ago corn had 4-5 kernels on them. with advances in agriculture we now grow huge husks... same goes with every other kind of plant. including marijuana. I don't defoliate, but sticking with the same old growing practices as in 1960-I don't do either.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Impman said:
um no plants don't work the same. 100 years ago corn had 4-5 kernels on them. with advances in agriculture we now grow huge husks... same goes with every other kind of plant. including marijuana. I don't defoliate, but sticking with the same old growing practices as in 1960-I don't do either.
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That's just genetics. That has nothing do with photosynthesis.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Impman said:
um no plants don't work the same. 100 years ago corn had 4-5 kernels on them. with advances in agriculture we now grow huge husks... same goes with every other kind of plant. including marijuana. I don't defoliate, but sticking with the same old growing practices as in 1960-I don't do either.
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is that ALL you got? Is that WHY you are so BUTT HURT, cause Ub teaches simple growing techniques that work and you have to work really hard to grow green crack, a simple commercial strain?
 
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harris hawk

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Impman said:
it is a good site. you just found yourself in the vortex of the apex of RIU trolls. post anything on defoliation and you get called a noob and stupid. seriously, there are only a few of these guys waiting to get a chance to parrot an outdoor grower and call names. keep on keeping on. a couple semesters of plant science class would change any of these trolls opinions on their all knowing leader. truth be told, a lot has changed in agriculture since 1893.
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Thank you very much !! appreciate your concern in answering me. The "good" out weights the "bad" all ways
 
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