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[WHODAT@THADOR]

Those aint nannas by the way just faded tips

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

awesome man what strain u got growing?

The pepper Swazi @Mad Hamish is running, BUT I will be soon

Edit: My bad thought that said not

 

[RM3]

Sooo..... Check this and @RM3 can verify. I boil my roots 3-5 days before I plan to drop it, it imitates a flood or catastrophe(which it is) in the rootzone. The plant will continue to burn up its nutrients under the light and begin to fade also converting the sugars into alcohol which jump starts the curing process while the plant is standing. Ironically it also produces some of the sweetest/smoothest smoke I myself or mamma have ever had. You can also continue to let it stand and brown bush it or not. I did not create this method or tek but I assure you it works. Take one of your girls and do it then slide her to the side and give the space to some other plant.

Verified

 

[Mad Hamish]

All the above method REALLY does is to burn away chlorophyll. This can also be done quite effectively during the curing process. Only hassle is that it takes months of time to cure weed till it goes all golden, I have only seen ONE person ever take a cure this far. And it is by far the best tasting smoke on this planet IMO. No way I will ever torture a living organism. Once it is dead we can get into some chemistry no problem.

 

[Mad Hamish]

for sure. ... I have been thinking a lot about flushing at the end. I understand the buds need nutrients and that it won't effect the flavor of the flower....but hear me out on this logic and let's discuss: plants absorb the water and nutrients you give them within minutes. a wilted plant will uptake the water you give it in a matter of minutes with capillary action... along with the nutrients in the water. so, while the flowers themselves don't instantly absorb the nutrients ( that process can take about a week, the nutrients are converted to gas form). HOWEVER, I want anyone reading this to go break up a piece of bud like your going to roll a joint... right before you roll it, inspect the bud you broke up. you will notice tiny stems that connects the flower bud together. it is all connected by stem. and everyone that smokes, smokes these tiny stems that buds are connected to. well these tiny stems have ventricle tubes that have water and nutrients (absorbed through capillary action) not yet used by the plants factories.
while the chest beating weed nerds are correct, flowers flavor can't have salt build up or be effected by nutrient build up, the ventricle tubes In the stem sure do. buds are smoked and not eaten like an apple. so the comparison to other crops is bogus in the flushing argument. there are tiny stems with whatever nutrient you fed your plant with in every bowl you smoke. ......
what do you guys think? kick it around in your head. I have been ...

Nutes get converted. They are building blocks. If your salts are properly chelated in 'dro, and your nutes are properly immobilized in organic, the flush is a non issue really. By this time the plant is grown. It has been totally affected by nutes and environment to be what it is. I DO NOT grow 'dro any longer but I still sit in on a fair few conversations. There is a general feeling that ORGANIC TASTES BETTER even amongst the 'dro heads and we know, they are running MY cuts lol. If you care about flavor, mix some good LIVING ORGANIC SOIL.

It is an artform but I can in full confidence say cuts in my organic rig fetch twice the price from the same cuts in 'dro.

One sticky topic for me here is NITROGEN. As much as I feel the other nutes are OK to have around till the end, N really does ruin a bud's flavor. Organic heads can argue that it depends on the source, ammonia or nitrates, but I disagree. Too much N tastes like noob central.

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

Nutes get converted. They are building blocks. If your salts are properly chelated in 'dro, and your nutes are properly immobilized in organic, the flush is a non issue really. By this time the plant is grown. It has been totally affected by nutes and environment to be what it is. I DO NOT grow 'dro any longer but I still sit in on a fair few conversations. There is a general feeling that ORGANIC TASTES BETTER even amongst the 'dro heads and we know, they are running MY cuts lol. If you care about flavor, mix some good LIVING ORGANIC SOIL.

It is an artform but I can in full confidence say cuts in my organic rig fetch twice the price from the same cuts in 'dro.

One sticky topic for me here is NITROGEN. As much as I feel the other nutes are OK to have around till the end, N really does ruin a bud's flavor. Organic heads can argue that it depends on the source, ammonia or nitrates, but I disagree. Too much N tastes like noob central.

Ill respectively disagree. So much(not too much) N IS needed not just while in the plant while in flower, but also in the curing process,and I do not believe organic to smoke/taste any better then many other methods I have tried and tested as well(then have other heads opinions). Boiling them roots aint torture and I can assure it does more for smoothness then the traditional "cure" does. You couldnt choke if you wanted too and there is nothing wrong with it. Personally, one day Im gonna brown bush one out.

 

[abe supercro]

love is like nitrogen.

 

[Impman]

day 47 flower. almost there. looking amazing. this is the White. the Green Crack that is two weeks behind is the best looking bud I've ever seen. high hopes

 

[Impman]

Sooo..... Check this and @RM3 can verify. I boil my roots 3-5 days before I plan to drop it, it imitates a flood or catastrophe(which it is) in the rootzone. The plant will continue to burn up its nutrients under the light and begin to fade also converting the sugars into alcohol which jump starts the curing process while the plant is standing. Ironically it also produces some of the sweetest/smoothest smoke I myself or mamma have ever had. You can also continue to let it stand and brown bush it or not. I did not create this method or tek but I assure you it works. Take one of your girls and do it then slide her to the side and give the space to some other plant.

that is crazy! I want to try it

 

[Impman]

i am growing 10 green crack plants. they all smell and look great... but this plant in particular is something very special . it over powers the other plants smell. it is rock hard and growing like ice cream on a cone. I have two green crack mothers and praying they are this pheno

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

that is crazy! I want to try it

i am growing 10 green crack plants. they all smell and look great... but this plant in particular is something very special . it over powers the other plants smell. it is rock hard and growing like ice cream on a cone. I have two green crack mothers and praying they are this pheno

You should give it a try come up with your own opinion of it but it does work and well imvho! You gonna clone that girl in case the mothers aint got the pheno's?

 

[Impman]

You should give it a try come up with your own opinion of it but it does work and well imvho! You gonna clone that girl in case the mothers aint got the pheno's?

can I clone it ? I pulled two mothers just based on how well they were in veg. maybe I can harvest and revert back to veg then clone. but I heard that could mutate the pheno

 

[Mad Hamish]

Ill respectively disagree. So much(not too much) N IS needed not just while in the plant while in flower, but also in the curing process,and I do not believe organic to smoke/taste any better then many other methods I have tried and tested as well(then have other heads opinions). Boiling them roots aint torture and I can assure it does more for smoothness then the traditional "cure" does. You couldnt choke if you wanted too and there is nothing wrong with it. Personally, one day Im gonna brown bush one out.

I will be honest. I am laughing my ass off. ok so swallow some boiling water tell me it dont hurt lol. Aside from that it totally destroys micro life whereby destroying your soil whereby perpetuating a cycle of wastage. I understand most of you cats approach this as chemistry but it is biology. I do NOT dispute that your methods will produce exactly what you say. A 'brown bush' devoid of chlorophyll and packed with mature canmabinoids is a dream product. Timing and planning a good fade is essential to a great bud. I did not say nitrogen is not needed but bemoaned excessive use, there is a distinction which you need to acknowledge in order for us to communicate effectively. I was referring to a pretty nooby phenomenon anyway seriously doubt any person you know will be plagued by the classic N overdose.

I can guarantee you a bud of organic the way I do it will blow your mind. Brothet there is a HUGE taste difference with ROLS. It is when going back to chem fed you really notice. It does come at a trade off though. Regardless of claims I am still to get the yields I did off Hydro or chem fed soil. If you produce for the commercial market the decision is a no brainer, dro is king. But you know, I didnt make the switch all willy nilly. And it wasnt me that requested the permanent switch and agreed to a price hike either.

Not trying to rain on your parade mate. Just pointing out some different views or rather a different approach.

I am certain I will pay top dollar for your bud.

 

[Mad Hamish]

can I clone it ? I pulled two mothers just based on how well they were in veg. maybe I can harvest and revert back to veg then clone. but I heard that could mutate the pheno

You can clone while in flower and rather veg that clone. It will work better and faster than a re veg. Straight up, no mayyer the method, clones will be different from mothers. It is impossible for a plant to express ALL genetic potential at once. An individual plant getmed from seed represents your GENOTYPE, containing all gemetic potential but expressing the qualities most dominant. Take into account environmental influence in genetic expression you call it a PHENOTYPE. So phenotype is the individual as it expresses genetic potential due to encironmental influence. Now, with each generation of clones, the genotype has opportunity to express a fresh phenotype. This is not quite mutation although the difference can be so severe it LOOKS like mutation. So if you take a clone that clone has the opportunity to look and act different, adjusting the phenotype. If you clone off that clone again, another opportunity for change is presented. Generation by generation it will adapt. Cuts that have 'gone backwards' can be brought back on form by cloning. It is all about the condition of the mother. If she is happy you will most likely get perfect copies of her in her clones. If she is stressed the clones will adapt to the stress factor. This means unstable environment leads to unstable and unpredictable results.

A re vegged plant is a stressed as fuk plant. No way you are getting a copy. It will take 3 generations to get that original pheno back if you can treat mums and clones like gold. A huge challenge will be getting your stems thick and your pre flowers to stop making weak branches and leaves pop out, sucker nodes etc.

If the mum is worth the work go for it. I just took a minute to bring back my GHASH cut it was tough.

 

[Impman]

You can clone while in flower and rather veg that clone. It will work better and faster than a re veg. Straight up, no mayyer the method, clones will be different from mothers. It is impossible for a plant to express ALL genetic potential at once. An individual plant getmed from seed represents your GENOTYPE, containing all gemetic potential but expressing the qualities most dominant. Take into account environmental influence in genetic expression you call it a PHENOTYPE. So phenotype is the individual as it expresses genetic potential due to encironmental influence. Now, with each generation of clones, the genotype has opportunity to express a fresh phenotype. This is not quite mutation although the difference can be so severe it LOOKS like mutation. So if you take a clone that clone has the opportunity to look and act different, adjusting the phenotype. If you clone off that clone again, another opportunity for change is presented. Generation by generation it will adapt. Cuts that have 'gone backwards' can be brought back on form by cloning. It is all about the condition of the mother. If she is happy you will most likely get perfect copies of her in her clones. If she is stressed the clones will adapt to the stress factor. This means unstable environment leads to unstable and unpredictable results.

A re vegged plant is a stressed as fuk plant. No way you are getting a copy. It will take 3 generations to get that original pheno back if you can treat mums and clones like gold. A huge challenge will be getting your stems thick and your pre flowers to stop making weak branches and leaves pop out, sucker nodes etc.

If the mum is worth the work go for it. I just took a minute to bring back my GHASH cut it was tough.

thank you for that...

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

I will be honest. I am laughing my ass off. ok so swallow some boiling water tell me it dont hurt lol. Aside from that it totally destroys micro life whereby destroying your soil whereby perpetuating a cycle of wastage. I understand most of you cats approach this as chemistry but it is biology. I do NOT dispute that your methods will produce exactly what you say. A 'brown bush' devoid of chlorophyll and packed with mature canmabinoids is a dream product. Timing and planning a good fade is essential to a great bud. I did not say nitrogen is not needed but bemoaned excessive use, there is a distinction which you need to acknowledge in order for us to communicate effectively. I was referring to a pretty nooby phenomenon anyway seriously doubt any person you know will be plagued by the classic N overdose.

I can guarantee you a bud of organic the way I do it will blow your mind. Brothet there is a HUGE taste difference with ROLS. It is when going back to chem fed you really notice. It does come at a trade off though. Regardless of claims I am still to get the yields I did off Hydro or chem fed soil. If you produce for the commercial market the decision is a no brainer, dro is king. But you know, I didnt make the switch all willy nilly. And it wasnt me that requested the permanent switch and agreed to a price hike either.

Not trying to rain on your parade mate. Just pointing out some different views or rather a different approach.

I am certain I will pay top dollar for your bud.

Its the end of the plants life micros no longer matter and let the bitch die as each grower see fits imho... Im not resistant to other growers methods but my experience is what I go by and I would rather ferment then cure. and boil verse hang...

can I clone it ? I pulled two mothers just based on how well they were in veg. maybe I can harvest and revert back to veg then clone. but I heard that could mutate the pheno

What ^^ said but imo genetic drift is a minimal thing in clones, take a few and form your own opinion

 

[Impman]

Its the end of the plants life micros no longer matter and let the bitch die as each grower see fits imho... Im not resistant to other growers methods but my experience is what I go by and I would rather ferment then cure. and boil verse hang...

What ^^ said but imo genetic drift is a minimal thing in clones, take a few and form your own opinion

ya, you are right. I asked a plant science doctor about clones, my family also has a pistachio grow . clones are identical copies and the only thing you need to trip on is stressing them. plants will mutate phenotypes when stressed. pretty cool.

why can't people be nicer ... this is HS forum -not some fucked up UB troll thred. No reason to tell people their ideas or stupid and it made you laugh, fucking lame ass internet bullshit, that is not the real you MH. you are a cool dude, let's set a different standard in HS

 

[DaSprout]

Ya. Just give me all your info. So's I can use it when I start growin' again.

 

[Impman]

Man, one thing I wish I could do is send my leafs off for analysis. there are several labs nearby that test leaf tissue and soil.... I asked my last professor what would happen if I sent a marijuana leaf... he said they would not process it. :/ see, this is the biggest problem with growing weed. the ag community can't/won't validate the industry yet because of federal laws. so, here we are arguing over what nutrients work best, what defoliating does, what PH to use... once it goes federally legal in 20 years or whenever, these forums will be looked at as a bad nightmare.
did you guys know that they take DNA tissue of fruit/nut trees and row crops . they just need the the first embriotic leafs from the seed. this saves decades of time in figuring out what traits a tree will have. as far as marijuana goes-we will know the exact genetic make up of each strain without having to flower. then we can finally do away with the silly ass names we made for strains. The Double Bubble Berry Cheese could get a name like X-91.

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

ya, you are right. I asked a plant science doctor about clones, my family also has a pistachio grow . clones are identical copies and the only thing you need to trip on is stressing them. plants will mutate phenotypes when stressed. pretty cool.

why can't people be nicer ... this is HS forum -not some fucked up UB troll thred. No reason to tell people their ideas or stupid and it made you laugh, fucking lame ass internet bullshit, that is not the real you MH. you are a cool dude, let's set a different standard in HS

I agree actually but people can laugh it up all they want to... Once it goes outside there own bubble it becomes something worth laughing at. I know a shit ton of pretty experienced growers that brown bush there personal since you aint gonna see the streets pay out on it even tho its better quality imo...Take tobacco for example you dont see green cigarettes or cigars but its whatever.