can sum1 help with canna coco....
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tekdc911
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you could flush it with almost anything is what im getting at no need to waste nutes ..... when you start with precharged coco ph water is all you need ...... if your starting from plain coco then a nutrient solution is used ..... if you nute burn you water with ph water until run off let it be then go back to normal ..... this applies to pretty much all coco ...... i understand it works for you to follow the canna instructions but they are pushing products on you at the same time ...... you could use pretty much any other nute line if you know how to read the plants and act accordingly...... im just bustin your balls its not like i dont like you or anything ..... if it works for you then do your thing....... personally if im planting a $15-20 bean into any coco regardless of what the bag says im gonna flush that shit first to make sure ..... thats just from experience
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Seedlin
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Guys I have been growing in coco for years, It's what I started with. Now my experience with autos in coco is limited but I seem to be doing ok so far. I still say like tek, people make this way more complicated than it really is. Suppliers want to sell you their products thus their "proven" methods.... Its just a kick ass weed. Treat it like you would a tomato. I have a room full of beauties and I feed all of em the same thing, the same way. FloraNova Bloom and Cal-Mag Plus and well water ph'd at 5.8 more or less. I feed em every day just enough to get a little runoff. I run home made air pots in about 3:1 coco/perlite. I have bought coco in the brick, block, bag and mixed. They all work. More money doesn't guarantee you a better product, a little relies on your abilities. 
rob333
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used canna for years aswell as house and garden i now use hy-gen coco all i can say is whoa
If you are using Canna Coco media, there is no reason to prewash, preload or anything like that. Take the stuff out of the bag, put it in the pot, put the seedling/clone in the pot, pack coco around the stalk of the plant. Water the plant with w/e choice of nutrients you are using.
I've spend countless hours on different forums reading up about coco and half the people say flush the stuff before using and half say what I'm saying. If you are buying from reputable companies like Canna and Botanicare (those are the two I prefer to use) There is no need to worry about salt build up or anything like that as long as you buy name brand coco. I've used both the brick and the bags of coco
The only thing I do differently with coco is I double the amount of Cal Mag I use with EVERY watering. I mix 20 ml/2 gal of water. From start of clone/seedling all the way to the last two weeks of flower. There is no need for moisture meters or anything fancy. Coco is very easy to grow with and is very forgiving because it has no nutritional value to it (there is no fertilizers already in it like soil) The time to water is when the very top layer of coco starts to turn light brown. There is no need to worry about root environment or anything like that. Use a form of Mycorrhizae with Beneficial Bacteria and your roots will be fine.
Don't reuse coco (if your plants are grown properly, you wont be able to reuse the coco because the root mass in fabric bags ends up taking over and no coco falls off the roots when you remove it from the bag. Do not try to wash the fabric bags and reuse them. They are cheap enough that they should be replaced after each grow.
I currently have 2 Diesel Autos going in coco in 5 gallon soil bags and they are kicking ass. Switching to coco seemed to allow the plants to make more resin and more trichs. My previous 2 autos I did were grown in soil media that I mixed myself and turned out good, I got an oz per plant off them. Switching to coco, with the same strain I'm thinking closer to 2 oz dried off these autos. Everything is bigger, Stem is a 1/3rd bigger than the soil stems were.
Everything about coco from my last year of XP growing in it, is that its superior to soil. Root rot, less chance of happening. Overwatering plant, damn near impossible to do if you use fabric bags. The thing about coco being more resistant to bugs, I dont believe is true. I ended up with thrips on my last batch (luckily it was only in the coco that they hit, they left my buds alone) I noticed them the last 3 weeks of flower so I poured 2 inches of sand on top of the coco so the thrips were trapped in the media. I'm not a fan of bug bombs or bug killing chemicals and Spinosad was not available in my town.
But yea, if you got any questions shoot me a PM. I'm not saying anyone on this forum is wrong, everyone has their ways. Seedlin and Tek have very good points about growing in coco, There is no need to make it overly complicated, its supposed to be fun and relaxing. Some people tend to turn growing into a very spendy, time consuming, complicated procedure
All I am saying is I found a very easy, time saving method for growing with coco and it works. Harvested 14 oz off two purple kush plants a few weeks back. Not too shabby for a hillbilly growing in coco if you ask me.
I've spend countless hours on different forums reading up about coco and half the people say flush the stuff before using and half say what I'm saying. If you are buying from reputable companies like Canna and Botanicare (those are the two I prefer to use) There is no need to worry about salt build up or anything like that as long as you buy name brand coco. I've used both the brick and the bags of coco
The only thing I do differently with coco is I double the amount of Cal Mag I use with EVERY watering. I mix 20 ml/2 gal of water. From start of clone/seedling all the way to the last two weeks of flower. There is no need for moisture meters or anything fancy. Coco is very easy to grow with and is very forgiving because it has no nutritional value to it (there is no fertilizers already in it like soil) The time to water is when the very top layer of coco starts to turn light brown. There is no need to worry about root environment or anything like that. Use a form of Mycorrhizae with Beneficial Bacteria and your roots will be fine.
Don't reuse coco (if your plants are grown properly, you wont be able to reuse the coco because the root mass in fabric bags ends up taking over and no coco falls off the roots when you remove it from the bag. Do not try to wash the fabric bags and reuse them. They are cheap enough that they should be replaced after each grow.
I currently have 2 Diesel Autos going in coco in 5 gallon soil bags and they are kicking ass. Switching to coco seemed to allow the plants to make more resin and more trichs. My previous 2 autos I did were grown in soil media that I mixed myself and turned out good, I got an oz per plant off them. Switching to coco, with the same strain I'm thinking closer to 2 oz dried off these autos. Everything is bigger, Stem is a 1/3rd bigger than the soil stems were.
Everything about coco from my last year of XP growing in it, is that its superior to soil. Root rot, less chance of happening. Overwatering plant, damn near impossible to do if you use fabric bags. The thing about coco being more resistant to bugs, I dont believe is true. I ended up with thrips on my last batch (luckily it was only in the coco that they hit, they left my buds alone) I noticed them the last 3 weeks of flower so I poured 2 inches of sand on top of the coco so the thrips were trapped in the media. I'm not a fan of bug bombs or bug killing chemicals and Spinosad was not available in my town.
But yea, if you got any questions shoot me a PM. I'm not saying anyone on this forum is wrong, everyone has their ways. Seedlin and Tek have very good points about growing in coco, There is no need to make it overly complicated, its supposed to be fun and relaxing. Some people tend to turn growing into a very spendy, time consuming, complicated procedure
All I am saying is I found a very easy, time saving method for growing with coco and it works. Harvested 14 oz off two purple kush plants a few weeks back. Not too shabby for a hillbilly growing in coco if you ask me.
bubblenut
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Bro if i follow canna feed schedule exactly will i need cal mag or what??? Confused as fuck about this?
Chrissa
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I add calmag to my rez right after I fill it with water and before add nutrients. I then mix add canna a, mix then canna b mix then rhizo.mix and zyme and then mix real vigorously then I pH check my e.c tune it if I have too
Chrissa
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My 30 gallon pots are root bound after I chop and coming out the drain holes sitting in runoff until pumps drain to waste.. if done right cannazym at a higher dosage in a flush application can break down 95% off root material leaving the medium ready for reuse I use it 3 times.. other people useem it more. Coco is a natural medium it decomposes over time people have said that there 2ND 3rd runs through the same medium have actually been better then the primary run
U can reuse canna coco the only thing different about canna coco compared to other brands is that they pre wash it properly mature it agetate it and buffer it or pre charge cation exchange sites. Others will deny the need to not wash canna coco. I disagree but as its been said u can re-buffer "in a sense" the coco . I just personally belive that if u properly take care of your medium with 20 percent run off proper pH slow stable increase of e.c then u can minimize change of root environment problems or need to flush ect..not to mention I get 18.6 ounces off each plant roughly which in my room is about 2g per watt
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tekdc911
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to reuse the coco .... let it dry stomp the grow bag .... and pull the roots out .... add back 10% or so new coco and roll with it ..... or just run a knife around the base of the stalk pull it out fill the hole with some more coco and use some humic acid for the first week or so and then on with the nutes like normal ...... i have a feeling @Chrissa you need to run double the cal/mag due to the fact youre running led's and for some reason the plants require more under them
Seedlin
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Buddy 18oz a plant is the best I have heard of. I have reused coco but mostly just dump it in mt gorlfriends flowerbeds. You should see her tomatoes! Coco is roo cheap to reuse IMO but to each his own. I grow in 3 and 5 gap Hempy style air pots I make and never reuse the bag ( $.50 ea @ Wal Mart.) I feed every day. 3 gal fet a qt and 5 gal get about 1/2 gal or just enough for some runoff and Cal Mag is used every time. I use well water so its 1/2 tsp per gal. Coco fets me, so far 3oz or better, my best has beed nearly 7oz, per plant. I have a 6'+ Dutch Passion Auto Ultimate that might beat mt best.I have never flushed my coco. I soak and break down my bricks in a mixture of my nutes of 1 tsp FloraNova BBloom and 1/2 tsp Cal-Mag Plus and well water. My best piece of advice is don't try to help em too much. Have patience and lastly I have yet to see an auto finish in 70 days....
mattyblade1
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I have been growing with coco for 2 years now and I do everthing that you do and have had nothing but top results. You are spot on with everything you do. Listen to this man